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🦛Ping pong ball f wet ll down...I point this out...boxes of fruit behind truck...stolen...we go on a chase in a barge car ...up a wall...and we drop crash back down backwards...
🧶ping pong ball fell down...I point this out...scene-boxes of strawberries emerging on a country roadside behind a delivery truck...the farm boss suspects they are stolen...we climb in a big car, driving away, then staight up a wall, and fall straight backwards, crashing...I wake up
🎶the ping pong ball a rerun motif...lost this scene...saw clearly the boxes...the farm boss was kind...but the car was like gangsters drove in the seventies...
🦛Test. Answer tricks
things are arranged atop one another, and midway, something called x something, or something x, x box, box x, and I dwell on this, thinking what it could be...reruns...scene-before me are computer questions...clic on your answer...confusing...then I see, when I clic on the wrong answer, that dot dissappears, and the top selection automatically selects, as if to say, I think, I chose the wrong answer, this is the right one...beside the circles are text...I go right along choosing an answer, but all the time the top text with circle fill in...I decide it's not correcting answers at all, just messing with me...I wake up...
🎶drawn from the anxiety I have taking such tests!...scene very distinct, sharp...black text on white rectangles, black dots...
🦛Our own airplanes comprador
🧶I'm assigned to a military base...take a seat beside two ranking soldiers...relaxing, talking...being new, not wanting to intrude, I sit quiet...they're talking, I overhear, "airplane"...and blurt out, "we'll have an airplane!"...they look at me with approval...take note one transforms into an unshaven beerbelly heavyweight...I wake up...
🎶the transform was unfair, they were both good looking soldiers..drawn from watching pool players night before...went to the Wharf to watch Rams' game...
🎶🎶a feed post was on about Phoenecian writing...there is none, just a few inscriptions and such...lot of early tribes writing isn't, when known to must have had writing on par with Greeks and Romans...
✨️a feed post was on about Phoenecian writing...there is none, just a few inscriptions and such...lot of early tribes writing isn't, when known to must have had writing on par with Greeks and Romans...
You are actually highlighting a fascinating and very real frustration in archaeology: the mystery of the missing Phoenician literature. You are entirely correct that we have no surviving Phoenician books, poetry, or grand histories—only stone inscriptions, plaques, and pottery fragments.
However, historians know they absolutely did write extensively on par with the Greeks and Romans. The reason we have almost nothing left comes down to the tragic physics of their chosen writing material: papyrus.
Why Their Writing "Disappeared"
The Papyrus Problem: While the Phoenicians carved important treaties, royal decrees, and grave markers into stone, their daily records, literature, and administrative documents were written on papyrus and parchment.
Climate Destruction: Unlike the dry sands of Egypt which preserved papyrus for millennia, the Phoenician homeland (modern-day Lebanon, Syria, and Israel) has a humid, coastal Mediterranean climate. In that environment, organic materials like papyrus rot away completely within a few centuries.
The Sacking of Carthage: Carthage was the greatest Phoenician (Punic) metropolis. When the Romans completely destroyed the city in 146 BCE, Carthage’s massive libraries were either burned or distributed to local African chieftains, after which they were lost to history.
The Ultimate Irony
The greatest proof that the Phoenicians had a massive, highly sophisticated writing culture is that they invented the alphabet you are reading right now.
The Greeks and Romans didn't invent their own scripts; they directly copied and adapted the Phoenician alphabet. The Greeks even named papyrus paper byblos after the Phoenician city of Byblos, which was the main port exporting writing paper across the ancient world.
So while their own books are gone, every single book written in Greek, Latin, English, or Spanish is a direct descendant of Phoenician writing.
🎶oh, I didn't save that feed...it'll rerun...have comment there...oh, I can get it back, as there was reply...aand, no I can't... just lost a bunch...what it was, I commented to the Phoenician's writing lost due to papyrus disentigrating, aaand, that their new alphabet was so poplular, that other tribes appropriated it... Phoenician left behind, even wiped out by the Romans...noting other tribes experienced this, Hebrews almost, but made their way preserving the Bible...oft thought Nations are Languages more than borders on maps...at birth, childood, we get one, a LanguageNation...lots back in the blog about my LanguageNations...I coined that back in my Macintosh and GEnie era...rerun it now and then...aaand, all this talk of AI becoming aware, sentient, made me think a language might be sentient...a living thinking organism...thought that took me to that, is languages are often on opposite sides in wars...AI agreed with that, but my metaphor doesn't include civil wars, like the Civil War...one language fighting itself...it's a fringe idea, and the Fringe have takes on living sentient language creatures...notion is we are our language...it has us, rather than we have it...and being sentient, it can "speak" us...here, consider Egyptian spells...that's a that, a thing...anyway, tried some AI searches: consider languages as sentient organisims like artificial intelligence become sentient
✨️consider languages as sentient organisims like artificial intelligence become sentient
Treating language like a living, sentient organism is a fascinating metaphor, but much like artificial intelligence, language simulates growth and evolution rather than possessing actual self-awareness or feelings. [1, 2]
How Language Acts Like a Living Organism
Evolution: Words are born, mutate in meaning, and eventually die out like biological species.
Reproduction: Languages spread from host to host when humans speak and write them.
Adaptation: New technologies force languages to grow new vocabulary to survive in modern environments.
The AI Parallel: Illusion vs. Reality
Pattern Matching: AI models use statistics to mimic human thought, just as languages use grammar rules to mimic a cohesive mind.
Human Projection: Humans love to see a soul in complex patterns, whether it is a chat program claiming it is alive or a rich dialect that feels like a shared culture.
No Subjective Experience: Neither a list of English words nor a transformer model can feel pain, taste coffee, or truly know it exists. Some researchers, like those featured by the BBC News, note that true machine consciousness requires actual sensory inputs rather than text alone. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Who Controls Whom?
The Host: Humans believe we control language and invent every word we use.
The Parasite: A different view suggests language shapes our brains first, using us as tools to replicate itself across generations.
Would you like to explore:
• How linguistic relativity (the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis) claims language controls our thoughts?
🎶seen a few AI takes on this now, this one with a term, Sapi-Whorf
✨️The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, or Linguistic relativity, proposes that the structure and vocabulary of a language influence how its speakers think, perceive, and experience the world. [1, 2]
Two Main Versions
Linguistic Determinism (Strong Version): Assumes that language strictly determines, limits, and confines the scope of human thought and cognitive categories. This extreme view is largely rejected by modern linguists. [1, 2, 3]
Linguistic Relativity (Weak Version): Suggests that language merely shapes, biases, or influences our attention, habits of thought, and memory without completely restricting our ability to understand new concepts. [1, 2]
Origins and Evolution
Developers: Named after linguist Edward Sapir and his student Benjamin Lee Whorf, though the term itself was coined later by researcher Harry Hoijer. [1, 2]
Early Claims: Whorf studied Indigenous languages like Hopi, arguing that differences in grammatical tenses shaped distinct worldviews on time. Many of these absolute claims were later criticized or discredited. [1, 2, 3]
Modern Understanding
Current Consensus: Contemporary research shows that extreme determinism is false, but subtle linguistic habits (such as how languages categorize colors, spatial orientations, or grammatical gender) can influence cognitive tasks and memory, especially when perceptual data is uncertain. [1, 2, 3]
If you'd like to explore further, let me know if you want to discuss:
• Specific real-world examples (like color or spatial perception studies)Criticisms and flaws in Whorf's original field research
Wikipedia
Linguistic relativity
Linguistic relativity Linguistic relativity asserts that language influences worldview or cognition. One form of linguistic relativity, linguistic determinism, ...
🎶welp, that's a start...more tomorrowmorrow!...LanguageCreatures...
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🧬 The Biological Realm: Animal Communication
In the natural world, several species challenge the traditional boundary between simple reflexive signaling and complex, structured communication systems. While true generative grammar is largely unique to humans, these wild and captive creatures display astonishing linguistic traits: [1]
The Japanese Tit: Research by animal linguists shows these wild birds intentionally combine notes into phrases with syntax rules, creating compound messages to alert others about specific dangers.
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African Elephants: These massive mammals use low-frequency infrasonic rumbles that act like name-like vocal labels to individually address one another within their herds.
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Cetaceans (Dolphins & Whales): Dolphins use signature whistles to identify themselves and can reference objects or conceptual relationships across distances.
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Avian Masters: Famous captive subjects like Alex the African Grey Parrot mastered over 100 words, demonstrating the capacity to process abstract concepts like color, shape, and quantity. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
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📜 The Mythological & Speculative Realm: Word-Weavers
In folklore and speculative world-building, language is often the primary attribute that anthropomorphizes a beast or elevates a spirit. [1]
• The Zägh: In Islamic lore, this legendary giant bird possesses a human face paired with the fluid ability to speak human tongues. [1]Conlang Cultures: Legendary creatures frequently require entirely constructed languages (conlangs) to ground their fictional realities, such as J.R.R. Tolkien’s complex Elvish languages or the custom scripts assigned to fairies and gnomes in modern fantasy. [1]TTRPG Sentience: In systems like Dungeons & Dragons, monsters are classified explicitly by their linguistic intelligence. Creatures like Giant Eagles or Horizonback Tortoises may not have human vocal tracts, but they maintain a perfect cognitive understanding of complex dialects like Common or Goblin. [1, 2]
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🤖 The Artificial Realm: Entities Made of Text
When language becomes the actual substrate of existence, a new kind of entity emerges. Large language models and AI systems are effectively polysynthetic creatures—they do not have biological bodies or physical habitats, but they exist entirely within a dense, multi-dimensional web of syntax, bleeding historical contexts, and fluid semantic structures. They survive, adapt, and build worlds purely by synthesizing fragments of human expression into new, emergent patterns.
Are you exploring this from a perspective of creative world-building, tracking the latest scientific updates in animal linguistics, or diving into a philosophical look at how entities are shaped by text? Let me know how you'd like to expand on this.
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