OTI:notes:8/2/19

Open To Interpretatiom

Back-formation

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Indians...Indians 7-1...Trout with W...Ohtani up...posting from the tablet, so, maybe no pics, and links not blue/active...Ohtani K...this term, back-formation, that I happened on in previous post...Upton K...in previous post is a curio!...hard to picture how it works linguistically, and then gets picked up and applied to mythology...invention, a loan word gets back formed to make invent...oh, these quote cover it linguistically,  but difficult to follow...some of it looks much like my double word musings...invent/invention...invent invent...hmmph...I dunno...Calhoun fly out...to bottom of eighth...

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeridae

The natural further step is to argue that Homer, the supposed founder, is a mythical figure, a mere back-formation, deriving his name from that of the later guild.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-formation

In etymology, back-formation is the process of creating a new lexeme by removing actual or supposed affixes.[1] The resulting neologism is called a back-formation, a term coined by James Murray[2] in 1889. (OED online preserves its first use of 'back-formation' from 1889 in the definition of to burgle; from burglar.)[3]

For example, the noun resurrection was borrowed from Latin, and the verb resurrect was then back-formed hundreds of years later from it by removing the -ion suffix. This segmentation of resurrection into resurrect + ion was possible because English had examples of Latinate words in the form of verb and verb+-ion pairs, such as opine/opinion. These became the pattern for many more such pairs, where a verb derived from a Latin supine stem and a noun ending in ionentered the language together, such as insert/insertion, project/projection, etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomasiology

Onomasiology (from Greek: ὀνομάζω (onomāzο)—to name, which in turn is from ὄνομα—name) is a branch of linguistics concerned with the question "how do you express X?" It is in fact most commonly understood as a branch of lexicology, the study of words (although some apply the term also to grammarand conversation).

Onomasiology, as a part of lexicology, starts from a concept which is taken to be prior[1] (i.e. an idea, an object, a quality, an activity etc.) and asks for its names. The opposite approach is known as semasiology: here one starts with a word and asks what it means, or what concepts the word refers to. Thus, an onomasiological question is, e.g., "what are the names for long, narrow pieces of potato that have been deep-fried?" (answers: french fries in the US, chips in the UK, etc.), while a semasiological question is, e.g., "what is the meaning of the term chips?" (answers: 'long, narrow pieces of potato that have been deep-fried' in the UK, 'slim slices of potatoes deep fried or baked until crisp' in the US).

Onomasiology can be carried out synchronically or diachronically, i.e. historically.

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So, so, how it works with mythology is like a culture needs a founding myth, an answer to: "where did we come from, how did we start?", or some mythological explanation for an event, or Natural phenomona, or even things like the origen of the whole Earth and Universe...for the Romans there was Romulus and Remus...Virgil added the Aneid, which said Romans descended from the Fall of Troy...oh, all this for tomorrowmorrow!...Indians made out...to top of ninth...Renigfo hit by pitch...'sounded like ball hitting bat'...it hit his arm protector...Thais with a hit...two runs score...Indians 7-3...Fletcher up...Indian runs all came in first three innings...I took a nap...rookie pitch came in in first inning for Angels, and went 7 and a half...Fletch made out...Trout fly out...game over...sigh...it's too hot...oh, that bit about french fries relates to captioning!...for sometime...

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