Tuesday, June 12, 2018

OTI:notes:6/12/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes:...A Letter To The King...

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Here is a poem by Song Dynasty poet Zhang Yu (张俞):
蚕妇                  The silkworm lady
昨日入城市      I went to the city yesterday
归来泪满巾      Back home, tears filled my towel
遍身罗衣者      Those dressed in silk clothing
不是养蚕人      Are not the people who raised the silkworms

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A Letter To The King is the name of an old book...looking at Inca things in google images, I kept seeing these old illustrations...some of them with the Inca King's Tunic, another with an Inca holding a Khipu/Quipo, another with the Incas fighting the Spanish...I learn that there are like 395 of these or so, and the book in its entirety is on the web...in looking and thinking about the King's Tunic, the designs on it, I thought maybe I should look at Inca warrior shields...after all, it was seeing the step fret on an Aztec shield that set me off on this particular iteration!...maps have coordinates, longitude and latitude...famously, in movieStargate, the researchers are stuck trying to make the Gate work...it's a wheel within a border...it was understood that the designs on the border were somehow connected to the designs on the inner wheel...oh...I'm not relating this well, let me go find it!...brb...

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In these productions, the Stargate functions as a plot generator,
... .,. ...
A plot device, or plot mechanism,[citation needed] is any technique in a narrative used to move the plot forward.[


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_(device)

hmmph...'prompts' another term...well, this is a silly far fetched reach...but the scholars go on about the Inca's 'spatial sense'...I'm not sure what that means!...but seeing it in reference to the four corner hats, as they are three dimensional, as opposed to the tunic designs which are two, it brought to mind the scene in movieStargate when the fellow explains the Gate to work needs three of the symbols to match up, as it is a portal to a three dimensional space, outer space...this in contrast to a longitude and latitude cooridinate, the big aha! moment in movieCloseEncountersOfTheThirdKind, which located the arrival of the alien ship at Devils Postpile in Montana!...how I recollect stuff like this, I dunno...but 'prompts' 'cues' 'mnemonic devices' and such, are all like coordinates to our memories...I mean, this is what a google search literally does...every letter, every pixel, is stored by the web hosting memory banks with a discreet 01 address...and the far fetched silly reach is that the Andeans, I'll call all these South American cultures Andean...Central American, Mesoamerican...North American AmariIndian,...well, in just that, one can see what goes on...a hierarchical arrangement...the Khipus on their top 'row' of knots and strings would have totals, below would be the more specific portions of the totals...the far fetched silly reach is that the four corner hats are coordinates!..but to what?...hmmph...this post number thirty three about, in a series...see previous...that little post note I keep posting in these posts of late is in keeping...when the game comes on...which it will in another half hour or so, I put a running account of the game into the post...I did that at first on a whim...then it became a frame...now, now, I'm thinking of it as a kind of coordinate that keeps these ramblings in the realm of reality!...a time stamping...oddly, the Mayans obsessed on time stamping everything...each scribe would put on their icons and scribblings a date and to which lord they were serving, ...pregame is on...Pujols is injured...sheesh...Simmnons, Calhoun, Ohtani, a few others, all on the DL!...hmmph...well, I'm diverting!...get back to Letter to the King in a sec!...

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from same

The idea of a "portal" for travelers has been seen often throughout the history of both fantasy and science fiction, often taking a similar form, a device or magical object shaped as a regular or irregular closed geometric form filled with a water-like, rippling puddle that represents the boundary point between the two locations. The stargate picks up heavily on this conception, emphasizing the "watery puddle" for the sake of an alien mystique.

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actually, the Mayans have  the 'rippling pool'...their cenotes, their smoky obsidian mirrors, their caves, their tubes and holes and dragons...from yesterday's post...

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see yesterday's post

In Mayan art, when gods are shown coming from the mouth of a serpent passing through an ear flare, it means they are being conjured

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and it just gets worse, the reach I mean, when considering the spindles and whorls!

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from yesterdays post

The whorl - a fly wheel to give momentum to the rotating spindle - thus becomes a symbol of the world's creation, connecting the creative powers of the gods and the celestial realm with the spinners and weavers on earth.

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now, I've gone and seen the youtubes that show how thread is made with the spindle and whorl...and it has some metaphysical import for sure, if one considers my thought about it...the way making thread goes, is a bunch of wool, or cotton, or such, (thinking I should be saving Maya's my dog's shedding hair--sheperd husky mixes shed a lot!), and one takes portions and pulls them apart, puts them together, pulls them apart, and so on...this to align all the fibers/hairs...then one takes this bundle of aligned fibers and pinches it, twisting some into a thread...then one hooks this thread to the stick, the spindle...here, one can just roll the spindle like on one's thigh, or use the whorl, the round weight slid over the stick, the spindle, and spin the stick...the next thing that happens is genius!...a natural step comparable to making fire with sticks...in fact, they're a lot a like...the thread attached to the stick as it is spun pulls from the aligned bundle of fibers...because they grip one another, the fibers flow right out of the bundle making thread!...this, this, has real import in another 'realm'...in much the same way, a spinning electric generator 'pulls' electricity out of some kind of aligned 'bundle' of electrons...and sends it along the 'threads' we all see...electric transmission wires...not to impose on one's fun watching a lightning storm, but that's kind of what happens...out of the fluffy cloud bundles of aligned electrons, the earth pulls a lightning bolt!...the Aztecs had this sense of a universal energy...

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According to the Aztec thought the teyolía was an animic entity that gives life to the human beings located in the heart and, therefore, inside every person's chest. Related with the half part of the cosmos.[2] In addition to the vitality it was attributed it to be the source of knowledge, tendency, affections, passions, memory and will.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teyol%C3%ADa

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did they intuit electricity?...I dunno...ask Whitman, I Sing The Body Electric!...:)...the scholars wont touch this...the thought that the Aztecs and their associated seven tribes came from Peru...Aztlan...search: aztlan atlantis peru...

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Posnansky argued that Tiwanaku was constructed approximately 15,000 BC[5][page needed] by American peoples, although not by the ancestors of those then living in the area, the Aymara. Posnansky also saw Tiwanaku as the origin point of civilization throughout the Americas, including the Inca, the Maya and others. Since the publication of the work, these ideas have since been discredited by later archaeological research.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Posnansky

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Our thesis is that Atlantis the continent/”island” is South America, the city is Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku, the “sinking” was either continental shift or pole shift (which pushed-up the Andes), the date was 900 years before Amasis II (i.e. ca 1400s bc).
We can’t claim anymuch credit because apparently a few others have suggested Tiahuanaco as Atlantis (or Aztlan) before: (Posnansky,) David Fasold, Jim Allen, James Bailey).

https://2rbetterthan1.wordpress.com/atlantis-south-americatiahuanaco/

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Trout with one out single...Upton up...hmmph...anyway, Kahn academy has a bit on the Letter to the King, which I happened on looking at the book's illustrations in google images...where I noted the authors name at the bottom of them...they all look alike...like early prints from the sixteenth century...which is when they are from...the author was trying to get his text and captions and illustrations published in Europe...he was an Inca noble who had not only just learned to write Spanish, but in his conversion to Christianity, seems to have acquired priest like skills...and with his artistic skills, and knowledge of his own culture, was able to put together this book, which was intended for one person, the King of Spain...he had the notion to have the book published, and then the King for certain would see it...oh..wait...I forget something back up there with...'teyollia'...that was the Aztec's notion...actually a part of a complex of similar things...curious to know what the Inca's was...oh...that was the 'mana'...mana the Polynesian name for the Inca concept...two or three posts back I went over this!...onward...so, so, I was looking at Inca shields...heck...Angels made out, now Mariners with a home run...Barria is pitching...Mariners 1-0...at the Inca shields for the designs, and happened on a figure, an Inca woman from the Letter, and on her dress were the designs...the little miniature squares with designs, which it would seem now from reading the Letter, are heraldry, and the spindle with whorls were in the pic...think I have this right...let me get the pics, they'll explain themselves!...Mariners made out...Angels with a lead off single...top of 2nd?...Cozart up...Valbuena on first...

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Image of a late century painting from the Museo Inka in Cusco provided by CTTC. do you agree she is holding a spindle?

https://www.google.com/search?q=inca+painting+woman+spindle+whorl&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiM1cjazc_bAhUKbawKHdA-AAwQ_AUICigB&biw=1079&bih=378#imgrc=fTgUU7UknLtB9M:&spf=1528857419929

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Maldonado up...

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Inca woman spinning, 1609 manuscript Chronicles of the Incas by Felipe Guaman Poma de Ayala ...

Art (Manuscript) - various
Inca Sun Virgins in the Acclahuasi or Sun Temple, 1609 manuscript Chronicles of the Incas by Felipe Guaman Poma de Ayala, Peru

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those from search: inca woman painting spindle whorl...that search a second iteration of the searches I did this morning...I find I'm doing things once before the post, then again during the post...the second time often turns up new things!...as my memory of the first is foggy, and I kind of bounce around looking for things the second time!...I found the painting, (there are more by different artists, different times, while I was looking for 'shield emblems') and was taken that the dress has the emblems on it...then I noticed that the girl is holding a spindle...I had just done a world wide search for goddesses and weaving...a curio is the Israeli temple had a crew of virgins who made textiles for the temple...the textiles all burned to keep them from the Romans...the Incas burned theirs to keep them from the Spanish...one of the famous icons of the Bible story is the Temple's curtain which rips when Jesus dies on the cross...a thought is that Mary his mother was a temple virgin, and a weaver...support for this is thin...but it makes sense the temple priests would have a crew of women to make their textiles...apparently in ancient Egypt the weaving was done by men...this whole topic of women making textiles in pre history is huge...and not much delved into by the scholars...certainly not much in popular history tales...Idries Shah has a sufi tale about Fatima the Tent Maker...I don't know if he lifted it form old tales...I went off thinking of tent making, and then sail making...how the Vikings made their sails for sometime!...Angels playing good D, but Mariners threatening...it took an army of women to make sails, and millions of sheep, for the Vikings...where was I...oh...I was very pleased to speak out loud the name of Guaman Poma, the author of the Letter to the King, when I went to the Bookman used bookstore in Orange...I had thought to order the book from Amazon, but saw Bookman had it, so rolled over to get it...very helpful staff!...picked up Coe's Maya Code Decoded, and Clive Cussler's Inca Gold...staff recommended another fiction book about Aztecs...and pointed me to the archaeology books...they have a bunch...had to restrain myself...so, so, Poma wrote his book with a focused intent...the odd look of the pages is that he was trying to imitate the way books looked then...even his illustrations mimic the awkward portrayals common then...well, let me go to Kahn's take and snag a quote or two!...double play ended Mariner threat...then Angels made out...on to bottom of third...this game might go on awhile!...

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If you love to write letters, imagine writing one that is almost 1200 pages—complete with 398 full-page illustrations. Sound ambitious? Well, in the late sixteenth and early seventeenth century, the indigenous Andean man, don Felipe Guaman Poma de Ayala, actually wrote such an extensive letter in pen and ink addressed to the Spanish king (at one point Philip II, and then Philip III). It was called The First New Chronicle and Good Government (or El primer nueva corónica y buen gobierno, c. 1615). Guaman Poma wrote about Andean peoples prior to the arrival of Europeans in the 1530s as well as documented the current colonial situation ("Andean" refers to the  Andes mountains, in what is today Peru). He was keen to record the abuses the indigenous peoples suffered under the colonial government, and hoped that the Spanish king would end them.
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Finally, the letter is written in Spanish, two indigenous languages (Quechua and Aymara), and Latin—highlighting the various languages Guaman Poma knew. One might even consider the many images a fifth, purely visual language, one that combined Andean and European systems of representation.
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Guaman Poma's map shows the Andean “Indies” divided into four parts, with the Spanish Crown’s coat of arms and the papal (Pope's) coat of arms at the center. The four parts of the world are based on the earlier Inka division of their empire, known as Tawantinsuyu, or realm of the four quarters.
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The Symbolism of Space
Throughout his manuscript, Guaman Poma uses space to communicate Andean notions of power—specifically the complementary concepts of hanan (upper) and hurin (lower). The mappa mundi offers a nice example of these concepts.
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Guaman Poma uses these spatial concepts in other ways in his manuscript—sometimes to draw attention to someone’s importance. For instance, on the frontispiece of the manuscript (top of page) the pope is in the hanan position (reader’s left, but right side of the page), while the Spanish king and Guaman Poma are in the hurin position. In this way, Guaman Poma likely intended to convey the superiority of the Pope.

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-americas/new-spain/viceroyalty-peru/a/guaman-poma-the-first-new-chronicle

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Poma intuited that the Spanish beliefs and the Inca beliefs were fundamentally the same...Trout saves a ball from going over the fence...more great D in this inning!...to top of 4th...I was surprised to see in the Kahn take more about the four square symmetry...I'm gathering sites on this...for sometime!...and here I am at the Inca warrior shields...they were square!...on them an emblem, not unlike the two register Poma uses...a large image, with  a smaller one below...note the Virgin weaver pic...and, I knew he depicted the King's tunic, I didn't know he did so like ten times!...depicting a succession of Inca Kings...all of them shown holding a shield, and on the shield an emblem...now I have a thought that the Inca King's tunic might be a history of previous Kings with their shields!...the Kings I found at a site that has the whole book...brb...

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The second Inka, Sinchi Roca Inka (88-89)

http://www.kb.dk/permalink/2006/poma/88/en/text/?open=idp168240

I went kind of nuts when I saw this...like easter eggs, like the designs on easter eggs, I was hunting these emblem 'easter eggs', and thought, 'Poma, you've inadvertently recorded them!'..and he may have...as an artist, for economy, he may have stylized the stylized emblems!...just made up a design to suggest them...but I dunno...they're so small...but on one of them looks like the design from yesterday...brb...google search: guaman poma...then click on 'images'...a quick way to see the illustrations!...here's another King...

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I think...his illustrations are graphic...he pulled no punches in showing the Spanish King what was happening in Peru...the design on that shield is the same as the previous...so maybe that is the King's emblem...note the split register...there is something about that...relates to the two registers of the Khipus...Trout hits his 22nd home run...Angels1-1...he's setting some kind of record for home runs with no runners on...Angels made out...Pujols K...here's one with the famous tunic...that tunic was made for each successive King...and was destroyed when the King died...a curio is how the famous tunic survived...one explanation is that it wasn't finished...the last thing the two weavers did was put a zig zag border on the bottom to finish it off...the tunic only has the beginning of this...thought is it was taken up in the rush and confusion of the Spanish executing the King, and his brother successor, and hidden and survived...did Poma have a hand in this, the tunic in his keeping?...one of the illustrations shows his father, an Inca noble...and his emblem is in the illustration, maybe...looking for it...Mariners 3-1...two rbi home run..then Mariners made out...to top of 5th?...
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that's the one of this father I think...his tunic has the many squares, but just two emblems...ok...here's one with the particular one...note the kind of zig zag one...
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bottom row third from left...is that one this one from yesterday?
“Inka Key” Tunic Fragment


on tunic bottom row second from left...

Mariners another home run...Mariners 4-1...Pedrosan in for Barria...hmmph...this illustration is more detailed by Poma...and it looks much like the tunic...I don't know why the Yale lecture on the tunic doesn't mention Poma'so many illustrations of the emblems...it did show one or two of the illustrations in passing...I need to go study that lecture some more!...the shields!...if all the King's shields have the same emblem, it doesn't matter, but like in half of Pomo's illustrations, the King has the shield turned around...which is a puzzle...maybe Pomo is trying to stay in keeping with the symmetry dualism...he knows both western art conventions, and Inca conventions!...it's just remarkable...he makes William Blake look weak...he can be charming...an Inca Adam and Eve

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oh...another King

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and he can be gawdawful...very Aztec/Inca

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maybe that's a modern replica!...Trout up...Kinsler on second...stolen...two out...he hit another home run!..."they pitched to him and they paid for it"...Mariners 4-3...and got an rbi this time!...that, that one's tunic has only two designs again...one the zig zag, the other a lozenge...and the shield has a different emblem...this one must be a noble...is it Poma's self portrait?!...viva Peru...hmmph...there's a modern revolutionary band that has co-opted an emblem...the modern Inca cross...filled it with all kinds of meanings...reminiscent of the Mexican movement to take back nearly the whole western side of the US...these bands are usually started up by one individual, and become cult like...Upton a double with two outs...Pujols up...broken bat ground out...to bottom of 7th...hmmph...rather be a run ahead than a run behind...oh...the baseball diamond is our modern nod to the Inca's obsession with square symmetry...it's a square on end...which connotates movement, I imagine!...one has to imagine what the stylizations mean...the hook in that zig zag might be a stylized Puma's paw...or that double headed snake/dragon...I dunno...Mariner runner gets to second on a miss throw from outfield to infield...error LF...Angels have second best fielding per-centage in the American League...Alverez pitching...shields!...the shield pics are neat...there were other artists beside Pomo...rbi double...Marniers 5-3...and a pitching change...

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https://www.google.com/search?q=inca+warrior+shields&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1t-zY6M_bAhVMiqwKHSGeAW4Q_AUICigB&biw=1079&bih=378#imgrc=TJEX-bW2Eyr89M:&spf=1528864665194

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note second from left...a fine 'band'...for sometime more on Inca shields...bit surprised the archaeological digs haven't turned any up...a loose end:...the ancient textile industries were huge...and employed everyone...the women weaving, the men catching the llamas and vicunas...raising sheep...growing cotton, flax...everyone was clothed...and clothing was all hand made...and the upper 'one per cent' demanded the very best in textiles...and there were tapestries, and tents, and sails, and such...that book I was reading on line two mornings back had the tale of how Inca girls grew into being weavers, eventually becoming masters, and this was from modern example...the traditions of Inca weaving still survive...though looking at the modern efforts, they seem to have lost the meanings of the old emblems, and that particular square symmetry in its details...easy to happen when you are trying to mass produce textiles for tourists...gone are the days when two girls wove the King's tunic as if their life depended on it...which it did!...with vicuna thread fine as silk...likely, from the story I read in the book, one girl would be young, and the other much older, retired from domestic chores, and now, after a life of weaving, a master weaver....another home run for Mariners...Mariners 6-3...the book:

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The essays compiled here explore how cultural information is embedded in the symmetrical structure of pattern. From descriptions of patterns on objects as diverse as Nasca embroideries, Ica Valley ceramics, Quechua textiles, Yombe mats, and Zulu beadwork, as well as from Amazonian shamanic therapy, ceramic design among the Shipibo, and Turkish Yörük weaving, the contributors reveal how the symmetrical structures in the patterns describe aspects of each culture’s fundamental principles for living in the world. This approach offers a profoundly fresh way to read the meaning in pattern by arguing that pattern communicates through the structural metaphors
embedded in the symmetrical relationship of the pattern parts. The two volumes together offer readers a revolutionary new window into the communicative importance of design.

Symmetry Comes of Age: The Role of Pattern in Culture Hardcover – May 1, 2004
















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