Notes: Mama Ocllo's loom...game on...on the radio...Angels at Mariners...afternoon game...1pm...intros in progress...I posted these pics yesterday...this post thirty three in a series...see previous...
I keep seeing this dress...its distinctive shape, and the bands of emblems at the bottom and middle...in fact, saw it again this morning reading wiki's take on the Sapa Inca...brb...underway...strike ball..Kinsler up...the bands...they are on some of Poma's drawings of the Inca kings...wiki's Sapa Inka page has all of these...in one place in succession with dates...go figure...Kinsler lead off walk...Trout up...grounder DP...hmmph...1 2 3 Mariners go down...to top of 2nd...I don't know if that dress is unique to them...but the 'Virgin weavers' all wear it, and have the bands...from yesterday's last bit...oh...the weavers in this dress...
Young up...from tail end of yesterday's post:
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so, so, this morning I'm browsing, and I see 'the murua code'...and clicked, thinking it was another tribe...but it's a page all about the 'sara' belt!...go figure...has this pic...another of Poma's...
Left: Outside Cuzco, the capital of the Inca Empire, the Sapa (supreme) Inca, or emperor (left), with his nobles and coyas (wife and daughters) participates in the ritual first maize planting. The illustration, by Guaman Poma, appears in the 1616 manuscript of Historia general del Piru, by Martín de Murúa. According to Murúa, the coyas were wearing sara belts—the same type of belt referred to in his coded instructions.
http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/features/112333/the-mur-a-code
and the story mentions that the sara belt was worn by the women...looks to be on men's tunics too...anyway...Murua way back when, wrote out a code on how to make one...sort of like translating something into 0s and 1s...oh, the Mariners are scoring runs and whapping the heck out of the ball...Mariners 2-0...no one could translate the code, and article is story of how it was decoded...turns out the Inca weavers have faithfully copied the same pattern for the sara belts for hundreds of years, and by seeing how the current ones are made, they confirmed that the pattern the code depicts is still in use...oh, the article a must see...it goes over how they weave and everything...the pattern is that diamond with the stylized corn cobs...
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Doña Maria gave me a funny look and said the colors weren’t the issue: the diamond shape is a coco (seed or fruit pit), and the four triangles that made it up were puntas de maíz, four growing tips of corn, or tiny corncobs.
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hmmph...Mariners made out...I think...oh...grounder to Kinsler ends the inning...did Richards get pulled...there was some delay...anyway...to top of 3rd...this getting knocked around early for the Angels is getting old!...so, so, the paintings of women in that distinctive dress, with the emblems on the lower border, the emblem around the waist, the sara belt?, I keep seeing...it's Mama Ocllo...brb...Kinsler two out double...Trout up...Richards might be hurt...bullpen up...
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She taught the Inca women the art of spinning thread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_Ocllo
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Trout whaps an rbi single...Mariners 2-1...Upton another...two on...two out?...Pujols up...
she's often shown holding that little face, which I think too represents a bundle of wool, something to do with weaving...K...to bottom of 3rd...this one of Poma's must be where the umbrella comes from...likely he has another with the dwarf holding the umbrella!
spindle is in her right hand...over the years, the centuries, the emblem bands, the sara belt, morphed, until they're no longer recognizable...Mama Ocllo is popular...there's a cartoon...geez...two run home run for Seattle...Mariner 4-1...someone came into pitch for Richards...
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Mama Ocllo is often described on the Net as a “fertility goddess,” but she was another ancestral founder who represents the Coyas, powerful Moon priestesses and female counterparts of the Incas. Many post-conquest paintings indicate her lunar connection by showing her holding a mirror reflecting the face of the sun.)
http://www.sourcememory.net/veleda/?p=48
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it's complicated!...that site squares it away...sorta...I see the figure with the spindle and whorl too...it's confusing...
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Some sources conflate the names of these two ancestral Quecha women, referring to Mama Huaco Ocllo.
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exactly!...thankyou...a curio about the square shields is that around and below their emblems, there looks to be a Khipu...Angels up, top of 4th...
the explanation of the corn cobs in the diamond motif/emblem, made me wonder just how subtle the meanings in the stylization can be...and looking at the Chinese character beside the poem quoted in yesterdays post, I not only noticed their 'squareness', but how the writing is stylized...it's really subtle...what happened...rookie Fletcher hits a two rbi triple!...his first hit!...Kinsler up...Mariners 4-3...win or lose, Angels play good games!...and Coe goes on how subtle the Inca writing glyphs are, and they too are 'square'...he goes on about 'conflation'...maybe I can find that, remember it from his lecture, and there are illustrations of what he means in his book I bought yesterday on breaking the Maya code...
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and what a scribe wrote, and it was sometimes advisable to compress or conflate two discrete signs into a single glyph
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oh, trying to track that, found this:
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This essay focuses on a hieroglyphic sign that shows a remarkable geographic, temporal and linguistic spread throughout ancient Mesoamerica. It might seem unusual to treat the main Mesoamerican writing systems (Olmec, Maya, Teotihuacan, Isthmian, Zapotec, Mexica-Aztec, etc.) together in this way, but there do exist a handful of signs and elements shared among these traditions, holding similar if not identical semantic values and therefore reflecting some profound historical and cultural connections. The sign in question is what I call the “royal headband,
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Suffice it to say for now that he royal headband glyph, appearing in texts spanning two millennia, provides a compelling comparative set for looking at such deep historical and artistic connections.
https://decipherment.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/the-royal-headband-a-pan-mesoamerican-hieroglyph-for-ruler/
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those illustrations kind of look like the ones Coe uses to show glyph conflating...
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The Maya glyphs are further complicated by their use of conflation, wherein two or more glyphs are combined, and some elements of the glyphs are eliminated or simplified, diminishing their individual complexity in order to create a legible, aesthetically pleasing glyph that fits within the space provided, whether that be on a small decorated cup, or a giant stone stela.
https://www.ancient.eu/article/789/how-to-read-a-maya-glyph/
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Trout with lead off single...top of 5th?...score same?...lol...this conflation notion shows how difficult language can be...consider the 'conflations' in English with sound alike words, dear, deer...in pictoral scripts conflation can be mind tangling!...oh...and this takes me to something I wanted to include today!...
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Two of the most common recurring themes on Moche/Mochica culture pottery are depictions of anthropomorphic birds, animals and lima beans.
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One of the frequently recurring themes in Moche art is the race between human beings with the features of animals, carrying bags with lima beans and sticks in their hands. In this race the runners participated wearing their finest clothing and elaborate headdresses, one of the most characteristic of which was the circular frontal headdress.
https://traveltoeat.com/moche-beans-bird-runners/
I dunno...it's more than I can comprehend...there's another 'code' encoded in lima beans!...
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Vessel Depicting the Assault of Bean Warriors100 B.C./A.D. 500
http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/91555
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Angels made out...Mariners up bottom of 5th...Anderson pitching...two out...Madonado throw'm out...to top of 6th...the Moche warriors had small round shields, and square ones...
from google images
https://www.google.com/search?q=moche+bean+warriors&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCsteg0tHbAhUMRa0KHQXyAlIQ_AUICigB&biw=1079&bih=373#imgrc=2UIJXH77A5escM:&spf=1528927400890
this morning I was at a site that had all these pen and ink renderings...great things for Inktober!...Poma's too!...there was one with the warriors morphing into lima beans...trying to find it...Young with lead off triple...click on that link above, and on 'related' images, to see these...lots...the Moche have left a lot!...Fletcher bloop single...what happened to Young?...he must have come across...Kinsler up...two out...Trout up...found the site I saw this morning...they walk Trout...
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Dumbarton Oaks’ collection of fineline drawings moves online
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Other scenes develop the bean motif further. Anthropomorphized bean warriors with delicate, dancer-like legs do battle with deer-headed figures. In running scenes, the runners themselves gradually morph into beans, or, as in a classic example of a spiraling scene, beans set off, slowly gathering human features as the images ascend.
https://www.doaks.org/newsletter/much-ado-about-moche
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I dunno!...Angels 4-4...bottom of 6th...two on no one out...pitching change...bases loaded...Kinsler dogged a bouncing catchable throw...bases loaded...Angels get out of the trouble...out, then DP...top of 7th...the warriors carry their shield and atltl darts like the Aztecs depicted in icons...shield and three darts...'self similars' I call such...among the scholars it's a profession easter egg hunting these things up!...Fontana, who?, hits a home run for the Angels...Angels 5-1..."he had one last year, and now he has another one"...he's had just two at bats in the majors as an Angel...both HR...go figure...Maldonado up...this site showed up in my 'recommended for you' google box this morning...
http://www.ancient-origins.net/opinion-guest-authors/statues-and-symbolic-gestures-link-ancient-g-bekli-tepe-easter-island-020384
it's an Ancient Origins site...another home run for Young!...Angels 6-4...and that site wont let me snag things...hmmph...the gesture it notes is statues standing with their hands resting on their hips or stomach...I noted awhile back how the Tula Warriors stand at attention...a common pose...anyway, the site has a whole collection of these...some of them look to have their arms 'akimbo'...a pose I often use in the Black Deck Tales...for sometime poses and gestures...heck...Mariners get a hit...bottom of 7th...Mariners get a run...and then a mess...Upton catches a fly ball, then sends ball to infield, and they catch a runner...under review...bad throw from Upton misplaced Maldonado, but Fletcher covered plate..go rook!...Maldonado tossed ball to Fletcher, and he saved the play...maybe...OUT!...to top of 8th...Angels 6-5...well, were on the one run up side!...two innings to go...Trout being walked again...Upton up...here's a page in a book I just found searching: inca shields quipo...it goes into detail Poma's depiction of the shields...the rectangle on the shields, the emblem common to all of them I noted, represents the 'quadripartite' division of the Inca empire...and more, it goes into that zig zag emblem I went on about yesterday..it's complicated!...wish I could snag it...what I'm seeing that looks like a Khipu on the shields might be stylized sun rays...the zig zag in the lower register of the shield mountains...a reference to Lake Titicaca...where the Inca's thought they came from...(the Inca were nomads like the Aztecs)...well, I'm relating this poorly...and the web just has sample pages of the book...I run into this often!...the book:
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