Cumbe Mayo
Notes: Game on...on the radio...Angels and Rangers...top of fourth...teams pecking away at one another...like Roosters...just read a bit where archaeologist found chicken egg shells in a dig in Jerusalem...a discovery, in that it was thought ancients didn't eat chickens, but kept them for cock fights...seems far fetched, and worthy of a comment from the Hound..."bs"...but, be that as it may, I added that to my lore list of the history of foods...domesticated plants and foods...one of Cassandra's ufo books had it such were gifted by aliens...bottom of fourth, Angels 4-4...they're suspect...all appearing in that un-recorded history era from about 4,000 BC to 12,000 BC...something happened around 12,000 BC...everyone seems to be agreed about that...brb...
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Roughly 12,900 years ago, massive global cooling kicked in abruptly, along with the end of the line for some 35 different mammal species, including the mammoth, as well as the so-called Clovis culture of prehistoric North Americans.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/did-a-comet-hit-earth-12900-years-ago/
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lots of on and ons on that...brb...to top of fifth...no new scoring...thought to look for: beginning of domestic animals...when horses returned to the Americas, they were domesticated sorts from the Old World, which may explain how the Plains Indians took to them so easily...and suggests before 12,000 BC the Clovis people and such, hadn't learned to ride horses, which had yet to go extinct in the New World...maybe they were too wild to ride, like Zebras...dogs might be the oldest domestic animal, and reach back before 12,000 BC...easy to imagine some kid taking a liking to a wolf puppy, and they get along into adulthood...children of all species have like a golden time when they get along with one another...I've got a wolf throwback for a dog...Maya, my shepherd/husky mix...we get along...sorta...brb...
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Charles Darwin recognized the small number of traits that made domestic species different from their wild ancestors. He was also the first to recognize the difference between conscious selective breeding in which humans directly select for desirable traits, and unconscious selection where traits evolve as a by-product of natural selection or from selection on other traits.
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Given its importance to humans and its value as a model of evolutionary and demographic change, domestication has attracted scientists from archaeology, palaeontology, anthropology, botany, zoology, genetics, and the environmental sciences.[
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The domestication of plants began at least 12,000 years ago with cereals in the Middle East, and the bottle gourd in Asia. Agriculture developed in at least 11 different centres around the world, domesticating different crops and animals.
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Domestication of animals should not be confused with taming. Taming is the conditioned behavioral modification of an individual animal, to reduce its natural avoidance of humans, and to tolerate the presence of humans. Domestication is the permanent genetic modification of a bred lineage that leads to an inherited predisposition to respond calmly to human presence.
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The chicken's wild ancestor is Gallus gallus, the red junglefowl of Southeast Asia. It appears to have been kept initially for cockfighting rather than for food.
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Some areas of the world such as Southern Africa, Australia, California and southern South America never saw local species domesticated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication
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hmmph...to bottom of fifth...lead off double...and wild pitch...runner third no outs...I was reaching for Inca irrigation!...and the chicken/rooster musing sorta gets me there...water is essential to agriculture...water for animals and people too in a settled area...irrigation...brb...
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Irrigation began at about the same time in Egypt and Mesopotamia (present day Iraq and Iran) using the water of the flooding Nile or Tigris/Euphrates rivers. The flood waters, which occurred July through December, were diverted to fields for 40 to 60 days. The water was then drained back into the river at the right moment in the growing cycle.
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kind of an Old World bias at that site...brb...run came across, another runner on...
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Agriculture in Peru dates back more than 5,000 years when the Chavin culture built simple irrigation systems and canal networks north of Lima. By the 15th and 16th centuries, the Inca Empire boasted an advanced irrigation systems, supplying water to 700,000 hectares of diverse crops in the fertile coastal zone.
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Along with maize and potatoes, the Chavin people also grew the grain quinoa and built irrigation systems to water these crops. They used domesticated llamas as pack animals to transport goods and as a source of food. A common method of preserving llama meat was drying it into what later Andean people called ch’arki—the origin of the word jerky!
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Also near the temple was the Tello Obelisk, a giant sculpted shaft of granite. The obelisk features images of plants and animals—including caimans, birds, crops, and human figures—and may portray a Chavín creation myth. Though its purpose has not been fully deciphered by archaeologists, the obelisk seems to have been aligned on an axis with the Lanzón and thus may have also served as a sort of spiritual or astrological marker. This indicates that the Chavin possessed some knowledge of astronomy.
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Eagles are also commonly seen throughout Chavín art. The art was intentionally difficult to interpret, as it was meant to be read by the high priests alone.
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The construction and later renovation of the temple would have required mobilizing a large amount of labor, so there must have been some system for doing this. The most common theory is that there existed a small, elite group of shamans—people believed to have the ability to communicate with the spiritual world—and that they maintained positions of power through this exclusive ability.
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to plant plants one needs to know when to plant them...hence the advent of astronomy...sundial/stardial temples...Chavin culture came just before Moche...I think...and here, the next search, I hope to be happily surprise to find step frets were part of Chavin motifs...oh...Texas pecked a bunch...Rangers 7-4...to top of 6th...hmmph...first look at chavin artifacts google images I can see plenty of spirals and running greek key like motifs, and they had the stirrup vessel...another thing I've trying to track back to its first instance, like the step fret...frets/spirals but no steps...need a close look...brb..may be awhile!...sheesh..I happened on a step fret nest with search: chavin culture step frets...another run for Rangers...Rangers 9-4?...eek...Gallo hits another one...home run...Rangers 11-4...hmmph...I cant open it with, page six, on the computer...windows 7, or something is giving me a different view than the Samsung tablet...have them both open...and follows is hand transcription...would rather cut and paste!...
Cahac And Chiefs: The Iconography Of Mosaic Stone Scultures in ...,issues 24-25
Rosemary Sharp
(Google Books)
Page 6
11-The step-fret motif, however, occurs earlier in Peru than in Middle America. For example it is present on a fragment of pottery taken from the Temple of Chavin de Huantar ((Tello 1960:350, Fg. 174, bottom, far right) dating to the Chavin Period. The earliest radiocarbon dates for Chavin Culture are 1190 plus or minus 1360 BC etc...
found with search on Samsung tablet: chavin culture step fret
Oh...this search string turns up others:
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The classic Recuay style of pottery, which is found in the Callejon across the Sierra Blanca from Chavin, and between which and the Chavin style Tello has shown ... There is one specific design common to the two areas : what I call the step-fret.19 This occurs both simply and in reciprocal interlocking. ... 16. 21 The strongest cases are KROEBEK — Cultural Relations between North and South America 17.
Proceedings
- Volume 23 - Page 17
https://books.google.com/books?id=7G0qAAAAMAAJ
1930 - Snippet view
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and that is all I have from that one too...both link the step frets in Mesoamerica with those in Peru...but in miniscule fashion!...Page 6 above is all about Mesoamerica...kind of the Puucka trail I've noted...it's been a puzzle all along that I don't find one source going on and on about the step frets in Mesoamerica and Peru...such has to be out there...the scholars are a lot brighter than I am...and here I find like first 'admission' of the step frets being here and there in obscure journals google books provides...hmmph...Angels picked up a run...Rangers 11-5...check that. Rangers 12-7...bottom of seventh...
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found it on amazon..one left...bought it with one clic...beyond my fund limit, but wth...only 12 dollars plus shipping...sigh...but it will have a lot of resources for search words...
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In the 1600s, Garcilaso de la Vega, the child of a conquistador father and an Incan noblewoman, described the Incan terracing system in The Royal Commentaries of the Incas: “In this way the whole hill was gradually brought under cultivation, the platforms being flattened out like stairs in a staircase, and all the cultivable and irrigable land being put to use.”
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Published on Feb 9, 2018
The incredible ancient aqueduct of Cumbe Mayo.
Built by an advanced pre-Inca society around 1500 B.C.E in official version
Built by an advanced pre-Inca society around 1500 B.C.E in official version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2wx5q86MMk
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Angels down to last out...oh, somewhere in the comment thread I went on and on about the aqueduct having step motif, and step fret motif like features, and wondered if it is the source of the step fret motif, which is said to represent clouds, falling water, mountains, and such...posting to a comment thread is peculiar...if someone replies to a post, even a like clic, I have a link back to my post, as google sends me like an email...it has been casual to comment, so I haven't kept links to myself...but, but, of late I've been posting what amount to blog posts to the comment sections!...most comments are very short...look to come from twitter accounts...though that doesn't make sense...comment posts are mysterious where they come from!...anyway, Angels twitching a bit, a runner on, but, they're done...3-1...I need to save links to all my comments!...wanting to go on and on about Notre Dame...it is said to have had a piece of the thorny crown in that spire...Rangers bringing in another relief pitcher...3-0...bases loaded...3-1...3-2...more Andean irrigation for sometime...ground out challenged...out...Rangers 12-7
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