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Game on...on the radio...Pirates 2-Dodgers 4...top of seventh...🦋Dream: a rectangle tray with blue flowers...rerun...a rectangle tray with pinkish flowers...I wake up...🎶term for history of an artifact..."provenance"...souvenir baseballs like that...bottom of seventh...Ohtani up...so, I can go on web, ask wiki, for history of Egyptian Kings, Pharoahs, aaand, there they all are...artifacts, like ships, have their own history...Ohtani got on...Freeman up...no one keeps track of a bat, unless it becomes collectable, then, according to value, precious...why am I puzzling over this?...I dunno...but a looksee...
✨️provenance of Charlemagne's throne...
TheThrone of Charlemagne(Karlsthron) was built around 790–800 AD for thePalatine Chapelin Aachen, Germany. Crafted from four ancient white marble slabs joined by bronze clamps and set upon six marble steps that symbolize King Solomon’s biblical throne, its precise material origins remain unproven, though local tradition long associated its stone with Jerusalem.[1,2,3,4,5,6]
Construction and Design
Date:Erected in the late 8th century during the construction of Charlemagne’s royal residence.
Location:Placed in the upper western gallery (Hochmünster) of the octagonal Palatine Chapel.
Materials:Four plain antique marble slabs clamped together with bronze brackets, resting on six unequal stone steps.
Symbolism:The six steps explicitly mirror the description of the throne of the biblical King Solomon.[1,2,3,4,5,6]
Historical Use and Lore
Coronation Seat:Used between 936 and 1531 for the enthronement of over 30 German kings and Holy Roman Emperors.
Status:Regarded in medieval texts as thetotius regni archisolium(the arch-stool of the whole realm).
Myths:Popular medieval folklore claimed parts of the stone came directly from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, though this lacks archaeological proof.[1,2,3,4]
🎶that, that's neat...it resembles the hwt block throne in Egypt...I tried to find if they ever found a hwt block throne...plenty seen in the art, and statues with seated people, but, I don't know if the Egyptians had like a royal palace, with throne room...Tut had a bunch of throne chairs...nothing like made from stone...lot of Egyptian artifacts, seen in the art, but never found...
✨️provenance of King Solomon's throne
King Solomon’s throne is a legendary seat of judgment and royal power described in the Hebrew Bible (1 Kings 10:18–20 and 2 Chronicles 9:17–19) as an ivory structure overlaid with refined gold, featuring six steps and twelve flanking lion statues. No direct archaeological proof of the physical throne exists, and scholars view it through textual, historical, and mythological lenses. [1, 2]
Biblical and Ancient Near Eastern Origins
Design elements: The text describes a high-backed throne with a rounded top, armrests flanked by lions, and a footstool attached of gold. [1]
Canaanite-Phoenician influence: Historians and biblical scholars note that Solomon’s described seat fits the typology of ancient Near Eastern sphinx or cherubim thrones common in Phoenicia and the Levant during the 10th century BCE—where kings were symbolically enthroned upon winged guardians or lions. [1]
Architectural context: The construction aligns with the era's close alliances between Solomon and Phoenician craftsmen (such as those from Tyre) who supplied elite woodwork, metalwork, and ivory inlay for Jerusalem's royal quarters. [1, 2]
Rabbinic and Islamic Tradition
Midrashic folklore: Later Jewish commentaries in the Targum and Midrash expand the provenance, claiming the throne was mechanically engineered with animal automata. As the king ascended each of the six steps, mechanical or golden beasts (lions, oxen, eagles) would extend assistance or symbolise the laws of Israel. [1]
Later plunder narratives: Folklore suggests the throne was later looted by invading monarchs, such as Pharaoh Shishak or subsequent Babylonian and Persian rulers. [1]
Islamic lore: In Islamic literature and regional geography, the concept of Solomon’s dominion expanded into mystical legends, attaching the name Takht-e Soleyman ("Throne of Solomon") to various pre-Islamic archaeological ruins and remote mountain peaks across Iran, Pakistan, and Central Asia. [1]
✨️provenance of throne in palace at Mycenae
Discovery and Debate
The Find:Unearthed by archaeologist Christofilis Maggidis, the worked stone piece matches the dimensions and seating ergonomics of a monumental throne.[1,2,3]
Material:The porous limestone composition matches the stone used in Mycenae's Cyclopean defensive walls and tholos tombs, but has no other counterpart inside the palace itself.[1,2]
Controversy:While proponent researchers identify it as the sole surviving royal throne from a mainland Mycenaean palace, Greek Ministry of Culture officials initially questioned the attribution, suggesting it may have belonged to a stone basin.[1,2,3]
The megaron was the great rectangular throne room and central hall in Mycenaean and Bronze Age Greek palaces. It featured an open columned porch, an anteroom, and a main hall centered around a large circular hearth surrounded by four columns, with the ruler's throne placed against a side wall. [1, 2, 3]
Key Architectural Features of a Megaron
The Porch: An open-air entryway with two columns set in antis (between the extending side walls). [1, 2]
The Vestibule: An anteroom separating the exterior entrance from the inner royal hall. [1, 2]
The Central Hearth: A large, permanent raised circular fire pit used for warmth, rituals, and offerings. [1]
Supporting Columns: Four vertical wooden or stone columns arranged in a square around the hearth to hold up the ceiling and a smoke vent. [1, 2]
The Throne Position: A raised platform or spot for the ruler's wooden throne, positioned against the wall right beside or behind the main hearth. [1]
Wall Frescoes: Lavish paintings plastered on the inner walls depicting animals, war, hunting, and religious processions. [1]
Famous Examples
Palace of Nestor (Pylos): The best-preserved mainland Greek megaron featuring a clear throne dais, painted floor patterns, and griffin/lion wall murals.
Mycenae: Located at the highest point of the citadel, featuring a classic two-columned porch and central hearth foundation.
Tiryns: Boasting a massive main megaron unit with a well-defined circular hearth base and surrounding courtyards. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The Matter of France: Compiled around 1285, the saga translated and restructured continental chansons de geste (epic poems) into Norse prose.
Branches and Tales: It details the lineage, battles, and legendary exploits of Charlemagne (Karlamagnús) and his paladins, including a Norse version of Charlemagne's youth involving the thief Basin.
Cultural Impact: It bridged continental European Christian royalty ideals with Scandinavian literary culture during the High Middle Ages.
Historical Tensions: Norse vs. Carolingian
Outside of literature, the historical relationship between the Norsemen and Charlemagne's empire was defined by violent geopolitical and religious friction:
Saxon Wars: Charlemagne's brutal subjugation and forced Christianization of the neighboring pagan Saxons pushed Frankish borders to the doorstep of Scandinavia. [1, 2]
The Spark of Conflict: These aggressive southern campaigns and the ideological clash between Frankish Christianity and Norse paganism fueled early animosities that bled into the start of the Viking Age.
Charlemagne's Throne (the Karlsthron), located in the Palatine Chapel of the Aachen Cathedral in Germany, was strictly used for the coronation of the Kings of Germany and Holy Roman Emperors. [1, 2]
The Norman dynasties ruled entirely different realms, primarily across England, Normandy, and Southern Italy (Sicily). Because they did not hold the title of King of Germany or Holy Roman Emperor, they never sat on this specific imperial seat during their coronation rituals. [1, 2]
The Norman Imperial Connection
While no Norman king sat on the physical throne, the Norman Kingdom of Sicily did share a famous connection with the Holy Roman Empire's crown jewels: [1]
• The Coronation Mantle: The oldest and most famous garment worn by Holy Roman Emperors during their coronations at Aachen was actually crafted for Roger II, the Norman King of Sicily, in 1133/1134. [1]How it Moved: The mantle entered the imperial treasury after the Hohenstaufen dynasty married into the Norman royal line, absorbing their Sicilian treasury. [1]The Legend: By the 14th century, the Holy Roman court had forgotten its true Norman-Arab origins and mistakenly believed the robe had belonged to Charlemagne himself. [1]
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