OTI:notes:7/24/19

Open To Interpretation

Ariadne's Thread

Notes: Game on...on the radio...Angels and Dodgers...top of second...Angels 1-0...in the first, Calhoun drove in the Angels' run with a two out double...123...to bottom of second...Dodgers made out...to top of third...

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Spiral and rosette motifs on Knossian decorative patterns. From left to lower right: painted stucco ceiling from Knossos; restoration of crystal inlays found in the Western Temple Repository of Knossos; dado from Hall of the Double Axes. After: A. Evans, The Palace of Minos, Vol. III, Plate XV; Vol. I, Fig. 344a; Vol. III, Fig. 299.

 

 

 

The simple spiral form represents the movement of the sun on the sky from summer solstice to winter solstice (the spiral on the left) and vice versa (the spiral on the right). The ancients believed that the sun followed a path similar to its daily path during the night in the underworld (the lower halves of the spirals in the figure). The spirals have been drawn using the rock carvings of the Knowth megalithic mound as models.

Evidence of Minoan astronomy and calendrical practices

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/45880446_Evidence_of_Minoan_astronomy_and_calendrical_practices

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Angels made out...to bottom of third...123...to top of fourth...and, Calhoun waps a home run...Angels 2-0...Angels made out...to bottom of fourth...it was a big deal, to me, a long time ago!, when I figured out that the ancient spirals might represent: "The simple spiral form represents the movement of the sun on the sky from summer solstice to winter solstice..."...Turner waps a home run for Dodgers...Angels 2-1...related, the thought I've come to, are meanders, the Greek keys, the Americas' step frets...and a meander somewhat different is what I've been trying to find a name for...it looks like a twisted rope, and it is just everywhere...persistence pays off, and I found a name for it, along with the spiral curls motif above...that one has been been a curio since I found it on this larnax,  and on a couple Egyptian tomb ceilings contemporary with the Mycenean/Minoan colony in Egypt...I posted up with pics about these a ways back...the twisted rope looks just like a rope...that motif, that look, has to be world wide, insomuch everyone knew how to make ropes!...twist together two strands, and there it is...now, if the ancients could view the passage of the sun, and stylize it as spirals, maybe they could look at twisted strands, rope, and extrapolate, imagine, that they represent something like the passage of the sun...thinking like this is akin to thinking a checkerboard represents day and night, because there are white and black squares...then there's the caduceus, the twisted snakes, and a modern curio, in that some see in the ancient caduceus the twisted strands of dna...match cutting ancient motifs with modern discoveries is a back and forth...in the hands of the artisans, the motifs are passed on from generation to generation...artisans can make exact replicas, but it takes an artist to explain, caption, the full meaning of a motif...or an ambitious scholar!...it's very hard to pass things on from one to another, one generation to another...Dodgers made out...to top of fifth...I stylize this as 'the seashell and its mollusk!' (see my cosmic seashells, last September posts!)...it's easy in a practical way to replicate a seashell, but to replicate what went on when the mollusk was alive near impossible...archaeologists are just left with seashell like motifs...two down, no one on...Barria, Angels pitcher, batting for himself...ground out...to bottom of fifth...fly out to Trout...Dodgers made out...to top of sixth...Fletcher with a hit, then steals second, and wild throw goes to third...Trout up...oh, they catch a gapper, but Fletch scores...sac fly for Trout..Angels 3-1...Upton pop out...Calhoun up...

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Ornamental spiral friezes have a long history in Minoan art. The version seen here with alternating up-and-down spirals and fan-shaped papyrus lotus blossoms became the favored ornate band frieze used to decorate most of the Mycenaean palaces. It has been suggested that the wide distribution of such a complicated pattern supports the idea of a traveling guild of fresco painters operating on the Mycenaean mainland. E. Gillieron, pere was hired in 1910-1912 by the Germans excavating at Tiryns to assist with the reconstruction of the many fresco fragments found at the site. 

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/258116

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'traveling guilds' for sometime...these would be the Homeridae/storytellers, the Pythagorians/mathematicians, those who made mosaics:

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https://www.google.com/search?q=anemurion+mosaics&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-55Lmls_jAhURUa0KHSPDCdwQ_AUIESgB&biw=1080&bih=465#imgrc=auXvOaAjyRrt5M:&spf=1564027088276

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hooey...I had the pieces of the post pre positioned, ready to fit together, but, lost where a couple were, and now in disarray!...Dodger Bellinger scores...Angels 3-2...Dodgers made out...to top of seventh...

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https://www.academia.edu/11110867/_Image_and_architecture_reflections_of_mural_iconography_in_seal_images_and_other_art_forms_of_Minoan_Crete_in_Minoan_Realities._Approaches_to_Images_Architecture_and_Society_in_the_Aegean_Bronze_Age_Aegis_5_Louvain_2012_83-114

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oh, my dog Maya's caught a possum..brb...oh, with the thought, she appears right beside me...and now back out into the dark backyard...once the possum plays possum, Maya is befuddled, and, usually the possum survives...Maya announces the circumstance by whinning and barking like as a puppy with a toy...Simmons gets a hit...Renigfo up...bunts...dives headfirst into first...but, out...that site linked, a pdf, is really good...ground out...to bottom of seventh...Dodgers have a runner...

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Decorative frame of the Theseus mosaic forming a circle and symbolising the Cretan labyrinth with the multicolored guilloche (twisted rope) representing Ariadne’s thread, House of Theseus, 3rd-4th century AD, Paphos Archaeological Park, Cyprus

https://www.flickr.com/photos/carolemage/22513821366

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and there, I found two things combined...the spiral curly cues I had learned are called guilloche, but I didn't know the twisted rope motif can be called that too...which makes sense...as they are near look alikes!...Dodgers hit into a double play...to top of eighth...that link is to a flickr pic, but there are plenty of pics of the mosaic, and other Theseus mosaics...searching them up kind of put me back on my heels, once again, noting how modern the ancients were...mosaics are no less than the famous pointillist impressionists school of painting...in both, one works with little dots of color...Ohtani up in the pitching spot...Ohtani W...Fletcher up...K...Trout up...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paphos_Archaeological_Park#/media/File:Paphos_Haus_des_Dionysos_-_Ikarios_2.jpg

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those two bulls with cart are, I dunno, van Goghish!...and below the twisted rope...it's everywhere...passed down through history to today...Trout W...Upton up...

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from same wiki

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that's the same wiki...the Theseus mosaic on Pylos...'on Pylos' to distinguish it from other Theseus mosaics...between the twisted ropes are a frieze of step motifs...chacanas!...messing with rope strands has a natural step to the twisted rope motifs...messing with squares, whether the tiny ones of mosaics, or mud bricks, has a natural step to making step motifs, chacanas...Angels hit into a double play...to bottom of eighth...those runners left on base, Ohtani and Trout, a miss fortune to haunt the next two innings!...time for crossed fingers and nail biting!...

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https://www.archaeologicalresearchservices.com/2019/03/13/a-week-in-paphos/

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Dodgers with lead off hit...Bellinger up...hard to see the chacanas close up...and they are odd...one square, then three squares, then five squares, then six squares...a fit for the design likely...oh, Dodgers hit into a double play!...Bellinger and Ausmusus woofing at the umpire...to top of ninth...Calhoun's gotta hit another home run!...a guilloche search turns up a lot of rosettes made like by modern lathe machinery...interesting for themselves, but I wish the term would turn up the motif more...Calhoun waps a leadoff double?...yep...that might do!...Pujols up...bop one to right field, beat the shift...grounds out to short...hmmph...Calhoun stuck on second...Simmons up...

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The main square field of this multi-coloured pavement (measuring 2.60 by 2.60 m) is composed of six hexagonal panels featuring lotus flowers, framed by a circular guilloche pattern.

Overall, the design of the mosaic, additionally equipped with a transversal field in front decorated with astragals and rosettes, is typical for the triclinia – the most imposing of the dining rooms in a Roman house.

https://www.google.com/search?q=guilloche+motif+minoan&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgyOCEps_jAhUOi6wKHdUVD1EQ_AUIESgB&biw=1080&bih=465#imgrc=adJt3Qq3XaxSFM:&spf=1564031147421

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and, and that is where this post's reach began, as story was in all the archaeological news updates, which I click on now and then...Simmons K...so, such are labyrinthine threads!...I lifted Theseus and Ariadne for the my Black Deck Tales...a wonder if everywhere one sees the 'seashell' twisted rope motif if it harks to the 'mollusk' myth...Ariadne gave Theseus a ball of yarn, a twisted rope, to find his way back out of the Minotaur's Labyrinth...oh, a twisted tale!...

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Multiple Solomon's knots in a mosaic in the Church of the Nativity (Bethlehem

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In modern science, some versions of the conventionalized sign for an atom (electrons orbiting a nucleus) are variations of Solomon's knot. The logo of the Joomla software program is a Solomon's knot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_knot

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Angels strand two on base...to bottom of ninth...I did a search trying to find the meaning in Christianity of the twisted rope/guilloche...and wiki's take on Solomon's knot showed up, which goes uncertainly on and on...but the notion comes to mind that there was a whole lore bound up with rope, and knots, and twine, and weaving-Andean quipos, Celtic knots designs...beside the Solomon knots above are the twisted ropes...two down...eesh...can it happen?...sweep four games from the Dodgers...previous scores: 5-3, 5-3, 5-4,? and...one strike to go...come backer to pitcher...Angels 3-2...hooray!...put a halo over this one!...more motifs tomorrowmorrow...

:)

DavidDavid

OTI:notes:7/23/19

Open To Interpretation

More Bricks...

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Dodgers...bottom of fifth...Angels 4-1...well, after looking for a standard mud brick size for the Sumerians, and Egyptians, and Andeans, I finally found one when not really looking: the mud bricks of the Indus Valley culture...two down, two on after back to back walks...pitching change...Cole began, Pena continued to this inning, the fifith...Dodgers made out...to top of sixth...Garneau K...Ward up...pinch hit walk...Fletcher up...beat the shift...base hit...Ward makes it to third...Trout up...Trout earlier had solo home run...Ontani not in the line up, but had a pinch hit rbi, the first Angel score...Trout, broken bat line drive out...Upton up...oh, need more runs against the Dodgers!...heck...ball run down on the warning track...to bottom of sixth...

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The ancient Egyptians and the Indus Valley Civilization also used mudbrick extensively, as can be seen in the ruins of Buhen, Mohenjo-daro, and Harappa, for example. In the Indus Valley Civilization, all bricks corresponded to sizes in a perfect ratio of 4:2:1, and made use of the decimal system. The ratio for brick dimensions 4:2:1 is even today considered optimal for effective bonding.

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Brick

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Ian Whitelaw (2007) holds that 'The Mohenjo-Daro ruler is divided into units corresponding to 1.32 inches (33.5 mm) and these are marked out in decimal subdivisions with amazing accuracy—to within 0.005 of an inch. Ancient bricks found throughout the region have dimensions that correspond to these units.'^[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_and_discoveries_of_the_Indus_Valley_Civilisation

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The bricks discovered were made of red sand, clay, stones and were baked at very high temperature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harappa

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Pollock K...Anderson pitching for Angels...one down, Seager up...ball off the wall for a long single...runner goes to third...oh, Fletcher tries for play at plate...throw late...Angels 4-2...batter W...bases loaded...Anderson relieved...base hit fpr Peterson...bases still loaded...Angels 4-3...grounder to Pujols, throw home, out at home...two down...

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But while things were going well for the Harappans, they were really good. So far, more than 1,052 Harappan cities and settlements have been found, mainly in the general region of the Indus River and its tributary rivers. At their peak, they are estimated to have numbered five million souls.
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One of the most striking features of Harrapan society was their propensity for standardization. Pottery and seals use surprisingly similar proportions. Bricks are virtually identical in size, shape, weight, and material, even among different cities. Weighs used in trading are also virtually identical. The level of standardization is so high, in fact, that some researchers claim it could only be the product of a single state authority enforcing them on all communities in the area.



Remains of a washroom drainage system in Lothal. Notice the quality bricks, millennia old, used for its construction.
Image via Wikimedia

https://www.zmescience.com/science/indus-valley-civilization-harappan/

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ground to Fletcher, force out at third...Angels 4-3...to top of seventh...so, I have it that the Egyptians didn't standardized their bricks, one source for that, so it's iffy...I don't know if the Sumarians did, or the Andeans...thing about the Andeans, each brick is stamped, like with the individual's brand, or family/clan crest...Calhoun first pitch swinging waps a home run!...Angels 5-3...Romans stamped their bricks...the Legionairs put to work building when not waring...



https://www.ancient.eu/image/5559/roman-stamped-bricks/

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Simmons foul fly out...one down...Upton up...found the Roman bricks looking for the Moche's...Upton makes out...two down...Renigfo up...waps one over Bellinger's head...double...

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As seen here, each brick carried the distinctive mark/brand of its manufacturer/provider

http://travel.davidmbyrne.com/peru/

I've only read that the Andeans marked their bricks, but here at tourist's page, find some...as many thousands of these imprints there must be, I wonder if they are anywhere collected...Angels made out...to bottom of seventh...Muncie K...two down...Pollock on, on tough play...ball short hops Albert...E5...pop up...to top of eighth...

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The mudbrick stamp or brick seal of Mesopotamia are impression or stamp seals made upon bricks or mudbrick. The inscribed seal is in mirror reverse on the 'mold', mostly with cuneiform inscriptions, and the foundation mudbricks are often part of the memorializing of temples, or other structures, as part of a "foundation deposit", a common honoring or invocation to a specific god or protector.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudbrick_stamp

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Buildings excavated between the two pyramid-mounds include many large residences with courtyards enclosed by walls. The fields around the site are laid out in a regular grid pattern of small rectangular plots often with a small adobe viewing platform, which suggests some sort of state supervision and control by the elite (Kuraka) class. Moche agriculture benefitted from an extensive system of canals, reservoirs, and aqueducts, so that the land could support a population of around 25,000.

https://www.ancient.eu/Moche_Civilization/

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I find it suspect wherever I read that these towns with temples/pyramids/dwellings all made from 'millions' of mud bricks, somehow only have '25,000' population...the Indus Valley population is estimated in the millions...now, the Mayans in Mexico too, from the Lidar findings...the thing that's hard to picture, is millions of ancients...just millions and millions...nowadays, with billions about, it's easy to picture...but the few archaeological remains belie just how extensive ancient populations were...the Sumerian flood myth has it, the gods were annoyed with humanity making too much noise, so they sent a flood to quiet us down...sort of a comic book like Thanos thing...the Great Pyramid with its millions of limestone bricks an indicator of the millions that likely lived in Egypt at the time...people have been crowded together for a long time...Angels made out...to bottom of eighth...Peterson up...two down...fly out to Trout...to top of ninth...Calhoun up...base hit...a double!...Simmons up...Dodger stadium sold out...53,000 or so...I'm not sure of the import of the Indus Valley culture using a ratio to make bricks...an odd culture...a lookalike to Caral in Peru, sorta, I'm thinking...I dunno...lol...'I'm not paid to have ideas!', my refrain of late on reflecting on my day to day musings!...uneconomic activities have dubious merit!...professional baseball, sports, have a kind of lottery ticket merit...hmmph...maybe making a brick was like submitting a lotto ticket!...some lucky winner...Angels make out...to bottom of ninth...fingers crossed on both hands!...three outs to go...one down...4-2-1...so, a brick might be twice as long as it is wide, and one fourth of its length thick...the Sumerian bricks were flat on the bottom, rounded, sorta, on top...cant follow that either...did they squash together!...and where did the Indus people get the fire wood to kiln dry their bricks?...they did most all of them, making them waterproof, and usable to this day...where the Sumerians could only do a few kiln dried...oh, base hit by Albert...Bellinger on third, got on with W, Turner on second...heck...just one down...have to walk the next batter...all in to get the double play...but no, Muncie up and being pitched to...1-1 the count...2-1...3-1...bad call on change up...oh, 3-2...fly ball sac...Angels 5-4...runner stays at second...maybe this will work out...pinch hitter has to come up for pitcher's spot...Hernandez up...1-1 the count...2-1...base hit...Calhoun throws the runner out at home plate...Dodger's can't challenge, used their challenge up...a walk off defensive throw for Calhoun!!!...Angels 5-4...'you can put a halo over this one!'...

:)

DavidDavid

OTI:one poem, notes:7/21/19

Open To Interpretation

Container Cargo Ship

Like delivering the mail in a far flung sea country side
The horizon with the sun
The horizon with the moon
The horizon with the milky way rising
Beyond transparent clouds
From here to there and there and there
Singapore, Hong Kong, Sri  Lanka
Hither and yon over the wide wide ocean.

DolphinWords

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Mariners...top of sixth...Angels 7-0...Guerno up... Angels made out...and, Mariners made out...top of seventh, Trout up...crowd just had time for an 'ohh!'...and ball got outahere...home run...Angels 8-0...Ohtani with base hit...and then out at second on Upton's grounder FC...Simmons up...fly out...and Upton thought there were two out...went all the way to second...DP...to bottom of seventh...I've become a day sleeper...too hot to stir...so, on the tablet in my bunk...just woke up...I'm constantly on the tablet reading, noting, composing...it's like being in school, but I dont have a curiculum,  just sort of kibitz classroom lectures, or some such...odd time, like we've all become engaged in 'brick' making, figuritively speaking...we find some thoughts of great import, compose them into a social media post, and add another brick/book/post to our media 'wall'...yes...'just another brick in the wall'...such are fish in a school!...anyway, Mariners score a run...Angels 8-1...'savages in the box' a new meme making the school of baseball shimmer/ripple...'box' refers to the white chalk rectangle on the ground aside home plate batters stand in....'savages' a coined term by the Yankee manager alluding to the intelligence of his batters to distinguish pitches from balls and strikes, off or over the plate...manager went off on the umpire...whole dust up, in a fashion, was about another 'box', the rectangular strike zone...now, the computers actually generate this box, outlined, on the tv screen, and indicate if the pitched ball went through, or around it...umpires have become superfulous and could be replaced for calling balls and strikes...such the march of progress to standardize boxes!...Mariners made out...to top of eigth...oh, I've forgotten the spelling for eigth...8th....each word a spelling box...Guerno waps one out of the box, home run...Angels 9-1...Angels make out...to bottom of eigthth...eighth...88 degrees in Seattle...can't, maybe can but don't know how to box, copy paste, from web to tablet...so post all text....lead off hit...K...base hit...two are down...I've taken to writing poems about the youtube clips I watch...some of them are poetic and lend thenselves to such...this came about from joining in in the comments...writing a comment I sometimes turn a phrase, and hear the beginning of poem...I haven't gotten so bold, or goofy, as to go back to a comment thread and post a poem...maybe someday clips with comments will evolve to that...now there seems to be a kind of commercial decorum to everything on the web...like its a big grocery store, everyone intent on shopping...both 'shopping' selling, and shopping buying...Fletcher made out...Trout up...K...Ohatani up...forgetting how many out is 'out of the box'...such announcing a poem in walmart or tarjae...Ohatini made out...to bottom of ninth...anyway, I happened, well, google algo lured, on/to a time lapse clip of a container ship--the deck covered with boxes...cool clip, schooling millions...


Watch "30 Days Timelapse at Sea | 4K | Through Thunderstorms, Torrential Rain & Busy Traffic" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/AHrCI9eSJGQ


...tommorrowmorrow the Indus Valley Culture bricks...Mariners load the bases...and have scored...wp...Angels 9-3...that link wont highlight from the tablet memo to google blog edit...K, two down...needs to be C/P...liner, pops out of Fletcher's glove, sorta, tossed to base for final out...put a halo over this one!

:)

DavidDavid

OTI:notes:7/20/19

Open To Interpretation

Yoga

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Mariners...Fletcher up...1-2 the count...top of first...base hit...Trout up...fly out...Ohtani up...Fletch steals second...2-0 the count on Shohei...2-1...3-1...3-2...oh, swung at ball four...K...Upton up...K...to bottom of first...quote from yesterday's post:

"Gimbutas also identified a "Lady of the Beasts" (the female analogon of Pashupati), a bear goddess and a snake goddess. "

hmmph...was curious about analogon, and too, Pashupati...

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Pashupati (Sanskrit Paśupati) is an incarnation of the Hindu god Shiva as "lord of the animals". He is revered throughout the Hindu world, but especially in Nepal, where he is commonly known as Pashupatinath and regarded by Hindus as the national deity

The Pashupati seal, showing a seated and possibly ithyphallic figure, surrounded by animals. Incarnation of Shiva

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashupati

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hit by pitch...Angels challenge...it's a seal, from the lost Indus Valley culture...no luck on challenge...lead off runner on first...sac bunt...runner on second, one down...fly out...and that seal came up in the takes on the rebus and trying to translate the ancient script...the motif of a male figure flanked by beasts is all over, like the ones with female figure flanked by beasts...K...to top of second...incidentally, the figure is seated in the yoga pose...I'm looking at the seals, trying to see if I can see in them blends...motifs of blended motifs...the Andean/Mesoamerican step fret is step(s), and fret(s)...

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Though Nepal is an officially secular state, its population is predominantly Hindu, and Lord Shree Pashupatinath is revered as a national deity. The Pashupatinath Temple, located at the bank of the river Bagmati, is considered as the most sacred place in Nepal. The mythology hold that Lord Pashupatinath started living in Nepal in the form of a deer, then when he saw the Kathmandu Valley and he was overwhelmed by its beauty. 

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A Pashupatinath temple is sited on the banks of the Shivana river in Mandsaur, Madhya Pradesh, India. It is one of the most prominent shrines in Mandsaur, and Lord Shiva in the form of Lord Pashupatinath is its primary deity. Its main attraction is a unique Shiva Linga displaying eight faces of Lord Shiva. The shrine has four doors, representing the cardinal directions.^[4] 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashupati

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to top of second...Pujols with ground rule double...Smith up...K...oh, inning over...to bottom of third...

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Inside the 40 m (130 ft) high Amarnath cave, a stalagmite is formed due to freezing of water drops that fall from the roof of the cave on to the floor and grows up vertically from the cave floor.^[4] It is considered to be a Shiva Linga by Hindus. It is mentioned in the ancient Hindu texts of Mahabharata and Puranas that Lingam represents Lord Shiva.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarnath_Temple

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lead off single...the pilgrimage to the cave is under way for thousands...goes from early to July to mid-August...bit like going to Half Dome, except like a three day journey from the Central Valley, all on foot to Half Dome's top...such the attraction of 'baetyls' !...bases loaded, one out...sac fly...Mariners 1-0...

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The Amarnath temple is one of 18 Maha Shakti Peethas, or "Grand Shakti Peethas" – highly revered temples throughout South Asia that commemorate the location of fallen body parts of the Hindu deity Sati.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarnath_Temple

Sati is the goddess of marital felicity and longevity in Hinduism. An aspect of Adi Parashakti, Dakshayani is the first consort of Shiva, the second being Parvati who is the reincarnation of Sati. In Hindu legend, both Sati and Parvati, successively play the role of bringing Shiva away from ascetic isolation into creative participation with the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(Hindu_goddess)

Shakti Peethas are shrines or divine places of the Mother Goddess. These are places that are believed to have enshrined with the presence of Shakti due to the falling of body parts of the corpse of Sati Devi, when Lord Shiva carried it and wandered throughout Aryavartha in sorrow. There are 51 Shakti Peethas linking to the 51 alphabets in Sanskrit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(Hindu_goddess)#Daksha_yajna_and_self-immolation

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Hindu myths are fantastic...Mariners made out...to top of fourth...the frozen water in the cave thought to be one of Sati's body parts, and so worth of reverence...remeinescent of the Egyptian myths about Osiris...body parts all over...but why the 51 alphabets bit?...brb...two down...Trout up...Ohtani up...did Trout W?...K...Trout left on base...to bottom of fourth...

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Sanskrit recognizes three numbers—singular, dual, and plural.^[214] The dual is a fully functioning category, used beyond naturally paired objects such as hands or eyes, extending to any collection of two. The elliptical dual is notable in the Vedic Sanskrit, according to Jamison, where a noun in the dual signals a paired opposition.

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The Sanskrit language formally incorporates poetic metres.^[221] By the late Vedic era, this developed into a field of study and it was central to the composition of the Hindu literature including the later Vedic texts. This study of Sanskrit prosody is called chandas and considered as one of the six Vedangas, or limbs of Vedic studies.^[221][222]
Sanskrit prosody includes linear and non-linear systems.^[223] The system started off with seven major metres, according to Annette Wilke and Oliver Moebus, called the "seven birds" or "seven mouths of Brihaspati", and each had its own rhythm, movements and aesthetics wherein a non-linear structure (aperiodicity) was mapped into a four verse polymorphic linear sequence.^[224] A syllable in Sanskrit is classified as either laghu (light) or guru (heavy). This classification is based on a matra (literally, "count, measure, duration"), and typically a syllable that ends in a short vowel is a light syllable, while those that end in consonant, anusvara or visarga are heavy. The classical Sanskrit found in Hindu scriptures such as the Bhagavad Gita and many texts are so arranged that the light and heavy syllables in them follow a rhythm, though not necessarily a rhyme.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit#Phonology

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hmmph...I dunno...the light and heavy bit harks to figuring out how many combinations of such there are, and that Fibonacci sequence discovery by...wait...brb...

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Way back in the 2nd century BCE, when Sanskrit & Hinduism were at their peak in the Indian sub-continent, Hindus were accumulating knowledge like never before. However, what’s the point in accumulating knowledge without propagating it further? That’s where Sanskrit played a major role. Thanks to the flexible characteristic of the language, it was the ideal language to compose poetry by imbibing these learning into poems & propagating them through oral means.

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That’s where the concept of “Sanskrit Prosody” comes into picture. This is basically a methodology based on rhythms & arrangement of tones. Not only is it a method, but actually a vast field of study where natural rhythms are determined so as to form a framework for poetry which would be very pleasing to the ears. The poems which are then composed based on this framework, would abide by the laws of nature, hence making the poems sound naturally pleasant, thereby enhancing the probability of it being remembered for a long time in the human mind, with minimal effort.

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Now, you might be wondering as to how we started the discussion with something as mathematical as Fibonacci series, but are touching upon topics like poems & Sanskrit Sutras. Well, that’s the beauty of ancient Indian wisdom. What we think is art, is actually beyond that. In ancient India, poems were not merely art forms produced out of creative juices, but had to inculcate highly sophisticated Mathematical concepts in order to pass the test of Sanskrit Shlokas. Chanda Shastra was one such mathematical concept which were widely used by the poets.
In Chanda Shastra, everything finally boils down to 2 syllables: Short syllable which need 1 beat (Laghu) and Long syllable which require 2 beats (Guru).
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So, it means, we can have 3 combinations. i.e There are 3 ways of arranging short & long syllables if we are asked to compose a shloka containing 3 beats.
We can go on with these calculations and determine that when we have 4 beats, we can have 5 combinations. When we have 5 beats, we can have 9 combinations. When we have 6 beats, we can have 13 combinations. When we have 7 beats, we can have 21 combinations. For 8 beats, we can have 34 combinations. And so on.
Summarizing the above paragraph, we can have 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34 (….. upto infinity) combinations.
If we closely observe the above pattern, we note that it is actually nothing but the series which we today popular refer to as Fibonacci series. This is what the whole subject of Chanda Shastra is based upon.
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And that takes us to the actual topic now. What we call as Chanda Shastra, was pioneered by a Saint-Scholar (Rishi) named Pingala in the 2nd century BC. (Although recent archeological evidences suggest that it was 4th century BC).

http://guruprasad.net/posts/fibonacci-number-series-originated-ancient-india/

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apology to author for long quotes, but, if I tried to paraphrase it all, I'd mess it up!...are my double words a short and long?...tiger tiger...(trying to write tiger with a y, but spell checker will have none of it!)...raja raja...Raja Raja was the name of a Tamil prince, if I remember right...brb...

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Rajaraja's elder brother died before him, and after the death of Uttama, Rajaraja ascended the throne in June–July 985.^[4] Known as Arumoḷi Varman until this point, he adopted the name Rajaraja, which literally means "King among Kings".^[



Brihadisvara Temple inscription reading "Rajaraja"
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Rajaraja embarked on a mission to recover the hymns after hearing short excerpts of Thevaram in his court.^[80] He sought the help of Nambi Andar Nambi.^[81] It is believed that by divine intervention Nambi found the presence of scripts, in the form of cadijam leaves half eaten by white ants in a chamber inside the second precinct in Thillai Nataraja Temple, Chidambaram.^[82][81] The brahmanas (Dikshitars) in the temple opposed the mission, but Rajaraja intervened by consecrating the images of the saint-poets through the streets of Chidambaram.^[82][83] Rajaraja thus became to be known as Tirumurai Kanda Cholan meaning one who saved the Tirumurai. Thus far Shiva temples only had images of god forms, but after the advent of Rajaraja, the images of the Nayanar saints were also placed inside the temple.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajaraja_I

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Mariners scored some more runs...Angels up with two on and no one out...when I read to myself my double words, the first is like a command, 'read!', and the second the, I dunno, the effort...'read'...read read...with a double like reed reed, the thought messes up, because 'reed' is never a verb, or a command...yet, I dunno, when a word is side by side itself, the first,' slot', is like a command...word order in English has it that nouns normally follow verbs...and it's like the relation of verb and noun is wired in...in all languages...the verb noun order in Spanish is backwards...oh wait!...I have it backwards...'he ran'-English...'ran he'-Spanish...then with the modifiers everything gets sideways...he ran backwards fast...fast backwards ran he...backwards fast he ran...he fast ran backwards...ran he fast backwards...Angels filled the bases...run scores on fc...somewhere under the subject of 'word placement' maybe this sorts out...two down...Smith up...full count...base hit...Angels 2-2...Angels make out...to bottom of fourth...123...to top of fifth...Trout up...K...two down...Ohtani up...

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The order of constituents in a phrase can vary as much as the order of constituents in a clause. Normally, the noun phrase and the adpositional phrase are investigated. Within the noun phrase, one investigates whether the following modifiers occur before or after the head noun.

• adjective (red house vs house red)
• determiner (this house vs house this)
• numeral (two houses vs houses two)
• possessor (my house vs house my)

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Typologically, highly-animate actors are more likely topical than low-animate undergoers, a trend that would come through even in languages with free word order languages. That a statistical bias for SO order (or OS in the case of ergative systems, but ergative systems do not usually extend to the highest levels of animacy and usually give way to some form of nominative system, at least in the pronominal system).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_order

wiki's 'word order' take is offering help, but I'm too thick to figure it out!...ground out...to bottom of fifth...thing is, I 'see' words...always have...anyway...the Harrapan script mystery:

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The Indus script (also known as the Harappan script) is a corpus of symbols produced by the Indus Valley Civilisation. Most inscriptions containing these symbols are extremely short, making it difficult to judge whether or not these symbols constituted a script used to record a language, or even symbolise a writing system.
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Early examples of the symbol system are found in an Early Harappan and Indus civilisation context, dated to possibly as early as the 35th century BCE.^[19][20] In the Mature Harappan period, from about 2600 BCE to 1900 BCE, strings of Indus signs are commonly found on flat, rectangular stamp seals as well as many other objects including tools, tablets, ornaments and pottery. The signs were written in many ways, including carving, chiseling, painting and embossing, on objects made of many different materials, such as soapstone, bone, shell, terracotta, sandstone, copper, silver and gold.^[21] Often, animals such as bulls, elephants, rhinoceros, water buffaloes and the mythical unicorn accompanied the text on seals to help the illiterate identify the origin of a particular seal.
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An opposing hypothesis that has been offered by Michael Witzel and Steve Farmer, is that these symbols are nonlinguistic signs, which symbolise families, clans, gods, and religious concepts and are similar to components of coats of arms or totem poles.^[24] In a 2004 article, Farmer, Sproat, and Witzel presented a number of arguments stating that the Indus script is nonlinguistic. The main ones are the extreme brevity of the inscriptions, the existence of too many rare signs (which increase over the 700-year period of the Mature Harappan civilization) and the lack of the random-looking sign repetition that is typical of language.^[



Longest Indus script inscription

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_script

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123...to top of sixth...and, there's the yoga pose...Simmons fly out...base hit for Pujols...lol...the shift moved to the right, and Albert pulled it...Calhoun grounds out...to bottom of sixth...

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The Indus Valley Civilization, also known as the Harappan Civilization or the Indus Sarasvati Civilization, flourished from 3300 B.C. to 1800 B.C. At its height, this civilization extended from Baluchistan on the Iranian border in Pakistan to beyond New Delhi, India in the east, from Afghanistan and the Himalayas in the north to Mumbai, India in the south. This is the largest and most developed Bronze Age urban civilization known to date.
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Archaeological surveys, undertaken in 1921-22, in what is today Pakistan, provided evidence of the early beginnings of Yoga. One of its most famous seals is that of a male figure seated in the lotus position surrounded by animals. Evidence suggests that this was Lord Pashupati, lord of animals, a form of Shiva worshipped in India and Nepal to this day. These and many other finds show the amazing continuity between the Indus Valley civilization and present day Hindu society and culture.

https://www.that-first.com/category/origin_and_history_of_yoga/article/origin-of-yoga/

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long way around to get to that last bit!...see pic at beginning...post too long...time to foray out for a snack!...bk...Regnifo pops up...but Mariners dog the play-E1...two out, runners at corners...top of ninth...lol...the scorer gives Renigfo a hit...Calhoun at third...Fletcher batting...base hit!!!...Angels 3-2...Trout up...troutahere!!!...Angels 6-2...Ohtani up...oh, the Indus Valley culture does have standardized mud/adobe bricks...for tomorrowmorrow, their system of measures...Ohtani with a hit...Ohtani steals second...wild pitch, O to third...Upton grounds out...to bottom of ninth...lead off single...DP...down to their final out...line drive out...put a halo over this one...

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DavidDavid

OTI:notes:7/19/19

Open To Interpretation

Wuzzles

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Mariners...bottom of second...one down...and, a ground out...two down...Angels go from playing first place World Champion Astros to last place Mariners...a contrast that doesn't have the same certainty of losing or winning in baseball that it does in other sports...Mariners made out...to top of second...more double words: just any two things side by side is a match cut, even if they are identical, I'm thinking...even if they are twins...twins invite scrutiny to see which is which!...our thoughts can't be at peace with two things...two things stir a reasonable observation, a caption...hmmph...I dunno...two down for Angels...words themselves are made from words blending together...single words that are double words...bumblelions...Angels make out...to bottom of second...

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The Wuzzles is an animated television series created for Saturday morning television, and was first broadcast on September 14, 1985 on CBS. An idea of Michael Eisner for his new Disney television animation studio, the premise is that the main characters are hybrids of two different animals.

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The Wuzzles features a variety of short, rounded animal characters (each called a Wuzzle, which means to mix up). Each is a roughly even, and colorful, mix of two different animal species (as the theme song mentions, "livin' with a split personality"), and all the characters sport wings on their backs, although only Bumblelion and Butterbear are seemingly capable of flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wuzzles

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Angels made out...to bottom of third...two down...Trout back in the outfield, Ohtani back at DH...'wuzzle'...???...coined...not a scrabble word!...Mariners make out...to top of third...having imagined takes on double words, I'm reaching for double images...which in fact are match cuts...there's something kind of metaphysical philosophical about the notion of double words...like our stream of consciousness is stepping from match cut to match cut...very quickly to be sure...but if slowed down, like the frames of a film strip...hmmph...anyway, blended words:

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One of the reasons I like blended words so much is because they show linguistic creativity! Blended words are symbols of how languages grow, change, and reflect current culture.

Here are is a list of common blended words in English:
blog (web + log) = a regularly updated website, typically one run by an individual or small group, that is written in an informal or conversational style – this is a BLOG!
brunch (breakfast + lunch) = a large meal eaten at a time between breakfast and lunch, replacing the two meals with one instead. (Eating brunch is very common on weekend days in America.)

https://blogs.transparent.com/english/blended-words-in-english/

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Angels made out...to bottom of fourth...Mainers made out...to top of fifth...Trout up...fly out...Ohtani up...K, and the inning is over..to bottom of fourth...

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In linguistics, a blend word or a blend is a word formed from parts of two or more other words. These parts are sometimes, but not always, morphemes.

Blends abridge then combine lexemes to form a new word. Defining a true blend is complicated by the difficulty of determining which parts of the new word are "recoverable" (have roots which can be distinguished).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blend_word

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right away in this, I reach the limit of my being able to grasp the gist of complicated things!...

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The most essential part; the main idea or substance (of a longer or more complicated matter); the crux of a matter; the pith.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gist

dictionary entries can be encyclopedic...lead off runners for the Mariners on two walks...don't know but my posts are dictionary like, encyclopedia like, very much wiki like...I have some 'gist' in mind, my 'reach', reach in the sense of climbing from one rung to another, one hand hold to another, one stepping stone to another...actually, reaches are like a sequence of match cuts...fump...three run home run for Mariners...Mariners 3-0...baseball games go along from one swing of the bat, one pitch to the next...the gist of baseball is baseball!...lol...a dictionary gives all the aspects of a word, its meaning, history, everything, and, it seems, every word somewhere emerges from a misty past...but, consider what makes understanding...food and hunger, thirst and water...things always come in pairs...oh, there's a philosophical take on this...somewhere...we only perceive the familiar, because we are always pairing things...this thing is like that thing...in animals sometime blind spots show...on the Galapagos was a scene of a sea bird fighting off another hawk like bird to protect their egg, which was just set on open ground...then a lizard, and iguana maybe, comes along and eats the egg...and the sea bird did nothing...narration has it that the sea bird has an adaptive blind spot...it hasn't yet connected iguanas with being a threat to their eggs...all the creatures on the Galapagos are new to one another, evolutionary speaking!...or some such...easier to see the gist here is the circumstance of birds flying willy nilly into electricity generating windmills...they haven't learned yet they are dangerous...Deer in the Valley sometimes looked to know how to wait for traffic, and then cross a road...blind spots...this almost to say, if we haven't seen something before, we really don't even see it...Astros made out...Astros 3-0...well, I could go a dozen different ways here...top of fifth...two down...three down...to bottom of fifth...blended words for sometime...for now, blended images, blended motifs, blended enigmas, match cuts!...trying to think of examples of what images the ancients blended together, the Moche's Strombus Monster first came to mind!...

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http://imagenyfotos.blogspot.com/2015/08/monstruo-mochica-strombus.html?spref=pi

http://treeinthedoorvideo.blogspot.com/2018/07/otinotes71818.html

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disconcerting to find my copy/pastes in google's images under 'moche strombus monster'!...but the ancients seem to have been just crazy for blendings...Calhoun with a diving catch...one out, one runner on...sphinxes, chimeras, wuzzles galore...hybrids!...that's the word...each word a kind of hybrid of previous words...don't know but an eagle is a kind of bumblelion...forelegs become wings...evolution a combining...another home run by Volgelback...six rbis in last two innings...Astros 8-0...baseball has these weird coincidences...patterns...

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Hybrid beasts are creatures composed of parts from different animals, appear in the folklore of a variety of cultures as legendary creatures.



Assyrian Shedu from the entrance to the throne room of the palace of Sargon II at Dur-Sharrukin (late 8th century BC), excavated by Paul-Émile Botta, 1843–1844, now at the Department of Oriental antiquities, Richelieu wing of the Louvre.
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Partly human hybrids appear in petroglyphs or cave paintings from the Upper Paleolithic, in shamanistic or totemistic contexts. Ethnologist Ivar Lissner theorized that cave paintings of beings combining human and animal features were not physical representations of mythical hybrids, but were instead attempts to depict shamans in the process of acquiring the mental and spiritual attributes of various beasts or power animals.^[2] Religious historian Mircea Eliade has observed that beliefs regarding animal identity and transformation into animals are widespread.^[3] The iconography of the Vinca culture of Neolithic Europe in particular is noted for its frequent depiction of an owl-beaked "bird goddess",^[4] although this interpretation is being criticized as feminist archeology.

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_beasts_in_folklore#Paleolithic}

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well, no...what's going on is word blending...pictograph blending...the gist of a bull gets blended with the gist of a king...a match cut...Angels made out...to bottom of sixth...Mariners made out...to top of seventh...

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Theriocephaly (from Greek θηρίον therion 'beast' and κεφαλή kefalí 'head') is the anthropomorphic condition or quality of having the head of an animal – commonly used to refer the depiction in art of humans (or deities) with animal heads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theriocephaly

Therianthropy is the mythological ability of human beings to metamorphose into other animals by means of shapeshifting. It is possible that cave drawings found at Les Trois Frères, in France, depict ancient beliefs in the concept. The most well known form of therianthropy is found in stories concerning werewolves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therianthropy

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it all seems strange, but, in truth, no stranger than what we do with words all the time, combining things as we do to make a word...Angels made out...more runs for the Mariners...Mariners 10-0...I watched a youtube clip about making a replica statue in marble...thought being to see how stone work is done now, and learn how maybe the ancients did it...as it happens, clips were of Daphne and Apollo, Bernini's take in stone of the Greek myth retold by Ovid in the Metamorphosis...

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Apollo and Daphne is a story from ancient Greek mythology, retold by Hellenistic and Roman authors in the form of an amorous vignette.
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Between 1622 and 1625, Gian Lorenzo Bernini sculpted a Baroque life-sized marble statue entitled Apollo and Daphne.
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In Ovid's Metamorphoses, Book I: Apollo and Daphne, Ovid uses animals to make the emotions of characters more relatable to the reader. Ovid characterizes Apollo's pursuit for Daphne as more animalistic than human, and creates the metaphor of a predator and its prey to show the connection between the two. Ovid writes, "sic agna lupum, sic cerva leonem, sic aquilam penna fugiunt trepidante columbae," meaning, "Thus a young lamb flees the wolf, thus the doe flees the lion, thus the dove flees the eagle, wing trembling."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_and_Daphne#The_myth

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here's clip about Bernini's statue...really good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdnPdZMZ9PU

Trout up...there's one down in the top of seventh...lines out, again...third time this game...two down...Ohtani up...ground out...to bottom of seventh...Mariners working on a perfect game...no hits, no walks for the Angels...

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Boios (Βοῖος), Latinized Boeus, was a Greek grammarian and mythographer, remembered chiefly as the author of a lost work on the transformations of mythic figures into birds, his Ornithogonia, which was translated into Latin by Aemilius Macer, a friend of Ovid, who was the author of the most familiar such collections of metamorphoses. In the 2nd century CE, Antoninus Liberalis gave extremely brief summaries of the contents of some of the myths collected in Ornithogonia.
Boiai, Latinized Boeae, was a village in Lacedaemon, at the head of the Gulf of Laconia, that, as Pausanias was informed, had been founded by the eponymous Boeus, one of the Heracleidae (Pausanias, iii.22.12).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boios

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two down...I gathered that in as I wanted to look at:

"The iconography of the Vinca culture of Neolithic Europe in particular is noted for its frequent depiction of an owl-beaked "bird goddess",...

Vinca culture bird goddesses:

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The term Bird goddess was coined by Marija Gimbutas with relation to figurines attributed to the neolithic Vinca culture. These figurines show female bodies combined with a bird's head. The interpretation as "goddess" is part of Gimbutas' program of feminist archaeology depicting the European neolithic as a "gynocentric" culture which would be ousted by the "patriarchal" Indo-European cultures with the onset of the Bronze Age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_goddess

ral...and there I am back to 'feminist archaeology'!...

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Gimbutas also identified a "Lady of the Beasts" (the female analogon of Pashupati), a bear goddess and a snake goddess.

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what's that?...'analogon'...Mariners made out...to top of eighth...one down...Calhoun grounds out...Fletcher up...Fletch get a hit!...eesh...ground out to third...to bottom of eighth...

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1. analogue (Can we add an example for this sense?)
2. (philosophy) According to Sartre, an equivalent of perception (such as a painting or a mental image) that is necessary for the process of imagination to take place.

^{https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/analogon}

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that, that looks like my musing above:

"oh, there's a philosophical take on this...somewhere...we only perceive the familiar, because we are always pairing things"

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Sartre says that what is required for the imaginary process to occur is an analogon—that is, an equivalent of perception. This can be a painting, a photograph, a sketch, or even the mental image we conjure when we think of someone or something. Through the imaginary process, the analogon loses its own sense and takes on the sense of the object it represents. Again, we are not deluded. But at some level the photograph of my father ceases being merely colors on paper and instead stands in for my absent father. I then have a tendency to ascribe the feelings I have about my father to the picture of him. Thus, an analogon can take on new qualities based on my own intention toward it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imaginary_(Sartre)

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I dunno...Simmons came out of the game...Fletcher at short...last Sunday Angels wooped the Mariners 15-0...now, behind 10- 0...and being perfect gamed!...it was against the Mariners that the Angels just had their combined no hitter...providence is a palindrome!...

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https://wiki2.org/en/Palindrome

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top of ninth...Regnifo up...base hit!...oh, that's mean to fans hoping for no hitter perfect game...such is fate...that image is a word square...sense to be had reading across, down, up, diagonally...and it's in Latin from Herculaneum...W...two runners on...Thais ground out...looking at Vinca culture figurines...and, those for tomorrowmorrow!...pop out...Trout up...2-2 the count...crowd booing the last call...needless to say, fan wear hats with trout on top...K...Mariners 10-0...one hit shutout...

:)

DavidDavid

Palindromes date back at least to 79 AD, as a palindrome was found as a graffito at Herculaneum, a city buried by ash in that year. This palindrome, called the Sator Square, consists of a sentence written in Latin: "Sator Arepo Tenet Opera Rotas" ("The sower Arepo holds with effort the wheels"). It is remarkable for the fact that the first letters of each word form the first word, the second letters form the second word, and so forth. Hence, it can be arranged into a word square that reads in four different ways: horizontally or vertically from either top left to bottom right or bottom right to top left. As such, they can be referred to as palindromatic.^{[citation needed]}

Palindromes date back at least to 79 AD, as a palindrome was found as a graffito at Herculaneum, a city buried by ash in that year. This palindrome, called the Sator Square, consists of a sentence written in Latin: "Sator Arepo Tenet Opera Rotas" ("The sower Arepo holds with effort the wheels"). It is remarkable for the fact that the first letters of each word form the first word, the second letters form the second word, and so forth. Hence, it can be arranged into a word square that reads in four different ways: horizontally or vertically from either top left to bottom right or bottom right to top left. As such, they can be referred to as palindromatic.^{[citation needed]}

Palindromes date back at least to 79 AD, as a palindrome was found as a graffito at Herculaneum, a city buried by ash in that year. This palindrome, called the Sator Square, consists of a sentence written in Latin: "Sator Arepo Tenet Opera Rotas" ("The sower Arepo holds with effort the wheels"). It is remarkable for the fact that the first letters of each word form the first word, the second letters form the second word, and so forth. Hence, it can be arranged into a word square that reads in four different ways: horizontally or vertically from either top left to bottom right or bottom right to top left. As such, they can be referred to as palindromatic.^{[citation needed]}