Wednesday, August 22, 2018

OTI:notes:8/22/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: had it wrong in my caption of pic I posted yesterday...they're not spears, but arrows, and what I thought were the Minoan tall cowhide shields, are capes...

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Image result for ramses ii chariot battle


http://historiarex.com/e/en/51-battle-of-kadesh-ca-1274-b-c

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hard to see, but the figure standing in front of the horse, has on a cape...and the fallen figures have capes, not shields....Pharaoh is Seti I, or Ramses II, or maybe another...I dunno...a battle against the Hittites...or the Hyskos....the Sea Peoples...Ramses II was the Pharaoh with the seventy year reign...battle of Kadesh site says pic is...he was twenty five then...and following on was a remarkable stretch of stability...he made a treaty with the Hittites after the battle, and Egypt's border wars ended...maybe until the Persians came along...don't know the history that well...there were like four more Ramses...each would build their own tombs and temples and borrow Ramses II's battle scenes, as their times weren't so tumultuous!...sea people warriors...

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Image result for sea people warriors

https://www.google.com/search?q=sea+people+warriors&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLsOrp8IHdAhXn44MKHUS6DAMQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=407#imgrc=YR9l149ciPQCYM:&spf=1534982883063

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Image result for sea people warriors

https://www.google.com/search?q=sea+people+warriors&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLsOrp8IHdAhXn44MKHUS6DAMQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=407#imgrc=2tQxEF3UTLb7pM:&spf=1534983124556

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Libyan warband with bronze sword

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/units-request-lybians-and.99082/

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Image result for minoan warriors

https://www.google.com/search?q=minoan+warriors&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi78unK84HdAhWCw4MKHcycCMMQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=407

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war game warriors...doing searches 'name of culture' warriors...happened on this plate with Phoenician warriors...

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Silver Phoenician bowl 750-600 B.C.
British Museum number 123053


Rosette, basalt 63 B.C. 640 A.D.
From Tell Balata, Palestine.
Rijksmuseum voor Oudheden Leiden
 
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/Lebanon.htm

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often said Phoenicians are an 'amalgam' of other cultures...nowadays, folk tattoo themselves with all kinds of ancient emblems, often Egyptian, and have no idea what they once meant...a kind of 'parroting'...sometimes suspect the Phoenician's of this...Romans did this with Greek things...those round Phoenician illustrations for sometime...there were rosettes in the Minoan murals found in Egypt...

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One of the earliest appearances of the rosette in ancient art is in early fourth millennium BC Egypt.[1] Another early Mediterranean occurrence of the rosette design derives from Minoan Crete; Among other places, the design appears on the Phaistos Disc, recovered from the eponymous archaeological site in southern Crete.[
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The rosette derives from the natural shape of the botanical rosette, formed by leaves radiating out from the stem of a plant and visible even after the flowers have withered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosette_(design)

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Diskos.von.Phaistos Detail.1 11-Aug-2004 asb PICT3372.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos_Disc#/media/File:Diskos.von.Phaistos_Detail.1_11-Aug-2004_asb_PICT3372.JPG

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the disc is Minoan...and a wonder...it is made with 'moveable type'...each emblem is printed in the clay...I've wondered myself why the cylinder seals everyone had, didn't lead to 'moveable type'...seems a natural step...note the rosette...note both rosette's are printed from the same 'type'...as the other emblems!...it's thought if the volcano hadn't blown up Thera, the Minoan culture there, which had many advance features, would have gone on to like invent television a thousand years earlier...or some such!...

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Through their traders and artists, the Minoan cultural influence reached beyond Crete to the Cyclades, the Old Kingdom of Egypt, copper-bearing Cyprus, Canaan and the Levantine coast and Anatolia. Some of its best art is preserved in the city of Akrotiri on the island of Santorini, which was destroyed by the Minoan eruption.
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No evidence has been found of a Minoan army or the Minoan domination of peoples beyond Crete, and few signs of warfare appear in Minoan art: "Although a few archaeologists see war scenes in a few pieces of Minoan art, others interpret even these scenes as festivals, sacred dance, or sports events" (Studebaker, 2004, p. 27). Although armed warriors are depicted as stabbed in the throat with swords, the violence may be part of a ritual or blood sport.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization#Warfare_and_the_"Minoan_peace"

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the later is something I noticed right away, the Minoan artistries have none of the celebration of warfare the others do, and by others, I mean all the others!...right down to today...also, there's isn't a lot of cult mysticism going on...the bull jumping was certainly part of rituals...but it also looked to be a lot of fun...and is still done nowadays...and a real contrast to bull 'fighting'...I dunno, this Minoan peacefulness for sometime!...the Indus Valley culture is noted too for not having fortifications...

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The large-scale excavations at the various Indus

valley sites in the nineteen-thirties failed to prove

the existence of fort-walls or fortification of any other

sort though the same wsds expected by a few scholars.

In other words the Indus valley civilization showed a
sharp contrast to its contemporary Egyptian and Summej


rian societies.


http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/160484/13/12_chapter%207.pdf

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well, I have it wrong, as article goes on to explain, they have found fortifications around the Indus Valley towns...reminds me of the first supposition about the Mayans, that they were peaceful, but then they've begun to find fortifications...

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Although the Maya were once thought to have been peaceful (see below), current theories emphasize the role of inter-polity warfare as a factor in the development and perpetuation of Maya society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_warfare

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maybe the Minoans were more warlike than the frescos indicate...a few frescoes do show combats, and that one with the square tall cowhide shields...if so, they were probably very good at it, given their technological expertise!...

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No trace of warfare has been found at Caral: no battlements, no weapons, no mutilated bodies. Shady's findings suggest it was a gentle society, built on commerce and pleasure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caral#Peaceful_society

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maybe they found one there at Caral...a peaceful culture...archaeologists a little desperate to find a culture not steeped in 'red claw and teeth' somewhere somewhen!...'not likely' (John Wayne voice)...game on...on the radio...Calhoun wapped one to the wall, but made out...Angels and D'Backs...Pujols up...two outs...another long fly out...all three outs fly outs...to bottom of 1st...this post ninety fifth in a series...see previous...

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Minoan culture, the dominant civilization in the Mediterranean at the time, crumbled as a result of the eruption, historians believe, changing the political landscape of the ancient world indefinitely. Environmental effects were felt across the globe, as far away as China and perhaps even North America and Antarctica.
The legend of Atlantis and the story of the Biblical plagues and subsequent exodus from Egypt have also been connected to the epic catastrophe.
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An absence of human remains and valuables like metal suggest that the Minoan residents of Santorini predicted the eruption and the island was evacuated, but the culture as a whole did not fare as well.
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https://www.livescience.com/4846-eruption-thera-changed-world.html

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D'Backs with lead off double...runner on third now...two outs...'blasted to left field...kiss it goodbye'...Goldshmidt with a home run...D'Backs 2-0...Espania on mound for Angels...how often the Angels can't get past the first inning without giving up runs!!!...K...to top of 2nd...lead off hit...'let's get crack'n!'...Ward up...K...two outs...Bash up...playing left for Upton on DL...on off day Upton cut a finger!...hmmph...line up tonight only has three players from the beginning of season...Calhoun, Pujols, Simmons....Ohtani can pinch hit...NL rules preclude his DHing...another K...to bottom of 2nd...site pre-supposes cultures dispersed from the fall of the tower of Babel...a wonder if that can overlay cultures dispersed from the drowning of Atlantis...Noah's flood...all the usual dystopian legends around the world about a past that was overwhelmed by some disaster...for sometime Minoan irrigation water management...

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Joinery technique used for a Minoan ship hull (Copyright Nik Aed) and plaster cast of the void left by a Minoan tripod table after the Thera eruption.

The secret to a superior hull was the application of linen cloth onto the wooden hull and the ‘wetting out’ of the cloth with pine resin, a natural polymer that becomes liquid above 70 degrees Celsius (158 degrees Fahrenheit) which can be pigment with powder additives – as the fresco suggests - sealing the hull.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/3500-year-old-advanced-minoan-technology-lost-art-not-seen-again-until-1950s-009899

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they made ships with self similar methods to modern fiberglass boats...

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Some of the violent nature of Minoan society might have been missed because archaeologists find few fortified walls on the island, Molloy wrote. It may be that the island's rugged topography provided its own defense, he said, leaving little archaeological evidence of battles behind.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50476592/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/maybe-those-minoans-crete-werent-so-peaceful-after-all/#.W34aHWe0UcA

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In a recent paper we have shown that Egyptians of the New Kingdom were making drawings using compass and straightedge before creating the polychrome decorations of their artifact. Arguing that the use of such instruments had been previously consolidated in the eastern Mediterranean area, here we consider the possibility that the Minoan civilization had a geometry, which allowed its architects and skilled workers to bisect and trisect the right angle with compass and straightedge. To this purpose, we will analyse some decorations on artifacts and some frescoes found in the Knossos Palace of Crete and at Akrotiri, on the island of Santorini.

https://scinapse.io/papers/2305333534

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bunch of sites noting this article...and I can't access the full article!...web is full of abstracts with pay walls or some such...pic following is cited by the article...

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Friezes with spirals and rosettes of the Hall of the Double Axes, of a bathroom and of Hall of the Dolphins (courtesy Wikipedia). The rosettes show that the right angle had been trisected. 

Friezes with spirals and rosettes of the Hall of the Double Axes, of a bathroom and of Hall of the Dolphins (courtesy Wikipedia). The rosettes show that the right angle had been trisected.

... the Evans' books we can find several examples of frescoes in the Knossos palace, where the friezes have spirals and rosettes, and a trisection of the right angle is appearing. Unfortunately, after the dis- covery of the palace, Evans ordered to restore the frescoes and then we have not their original pic- tures. In the Figure 4, we can see the friezes of the Hall of the Double Axes, of a bathroom and of Hall of the Dolphins. Let us also show another example of trisecting the right angle from a pottery decoration too. We can see it in the Figure 5. As explained in the Evans' book on the Knossos palace, this object was found in an Egyptian cemetery in Nubia. This Minoan pottery found in an Egyptian tomb does not mean a direct contact between Egypt and Crete. However, Minoan wall paintings exist at Tell El-Dab'a, in a palace of the Thutmosid period.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Friezes-with-spirals-and-rosettes-of-the-Hall-of-the-Double-Axes-of-a-bathroom-and-of_fig6_324670198

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page has a bunch of other cultures' geometric underpinnings to their illustrations...Fletcher on base...Pujols up...lost track of inning...ground out double play...I'll describe this rather than do up a drawing.painting:...I was holding my Samsung tab a tablet, thinking on these things, and happened to have my index finger across the top...it just fit, same length...and my thumb going down the side...and, OH!...our thumb and index finger when splayed apart make two sides of a Pythagorian triangle!...go figure...fooling around more, I curled my other hands index finger, with thumb outstretched...my finger a fist with thumb outstretched...and slid the lower corner of the tablet between my index and middle finger...so, imagine I'm holding the top left corner with the Pythagorean triangle, and the lower right corner with the logarithmic spiral!...or some such...I've been on the lookout for Pythagorean triangles in ancient artistries...there are some famous ones in ancient Egytp's...Angels made out...D'Backs up...Espania keeping them in check...

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Basir Mchawi has been hired by the New York City Board of Education to plan a high school for black males (news article, Jan. 22). His statement that the Pythagorean theorem was known 1,000 years before Pythagoras shows how black male self-esteem will be fostered in the planned school. It will be done by insisting that whites, particularly the Greeks, stole the basic ideas and institutions of Western civilization from the (black) Egyptians.
This is the thesis of a book by George G. M. James, "The Stolen Legacy" (1954), which should be read by those concerned by black attacks on the Western heritage.    


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article is part of the back and forth about civilization coming from Africa...black skinned folk as opposed to white skin folk...I dunno...the Smithsonian and Nat Geo are pre supposed to 'white' skin...Nat Geo has even apologized for the early issues that show prejudice....it's a sensitive subject...one, like many, I skirt when I can...but sometimes it is just a part of something...while I'm going on about the rosette, I'm recalling the Nazis' Black Sun emblem, Shakira, and the eye of a puffer fish, and the scientist Turing!...the Nazis made an old castle into a shrine, the center of their efforts, and on it's floor is a motif...a sun wheel that is dark greenish/black...I don't know if it was in the floor before the Nazis, or they came up with it...it's a dark story about the castle, and how they repurposed it...anyway, Shakira came up with a medallion, a souvenir for her tour, and it was just like the Black Sun...fans pointed this out, and it was withdrawn form sale, with apology that it was based on a Mesoamerican symbol...story about Shakira's medallion is sketchy, and trails off as these stories do...(having a tough time filling out the gold plates found in the Alexandrian sarcophagus!...that story has drifted about from the start!)...but, anyway, with the recollection of the Black Sun, and Shakira stories, I'm perusing diatom pics, and sight a pic of a puffer fish with the Black Sun motif around its eye...wth...so I looked that up, and found myself looking at Turing...many diatoms have rosette shapes...cymatic images too...for sometime that!...Turing and the Pufferfish's Eye...oh, and incidentally there is this...the 'nest' a small fish makes...

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This pattern was created by a small but amorous pufferfish;
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The unlikely artist – best known in Japan as a delicacy, albeit a potentially poisonous one – even takes small shells, cracks them, and lines the inner grooves of his sculpture as if decorating his piece. Further observation revealed that this “mysterious circle” was not just there to make the ocean floor look pretty. Attracted by the grooves and ridges, female puffer fish would find their way along the dark seabed to the male puffer fish where they would mate and lay eggs in the center of the circle. In fact, the scientists observed that the more ridges the circle contained, the more likely it was that the female would mate with the male.

https://cultureshopmanchester.wordpress.com/category/information/

lol...I'd forgotten that that is made by a pufferfish!...a fit!...go figure...a kind of an underwater Bower Bird...

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In 1951, when Turing was 39 years old, he turned to mathematical biology, finally publishing his masterpiece "The Chemical Basis of Morphogenesis" in January 1952. He was interested in morphogenesis, the development of patterns and shapes in biological organisms. Among other things, he wanted to understand Fibonacci phyllotaxis, the existence of Fibonacci numbers in plant structures.[111] He suggested that a system of chemicals reacting with each other and diffusing across space, termed a reaction-diffusion system, could account for "the main phenomena of morphogenesis".[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Pattern_formation_and_mathematical_biology

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Some of the earliest ideas and mathematical descriptions on how physical processes and constraints affect biological growth, and hence natural patterns such as the spirals of phyllotaxis, were written by D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson in his 1917 book On Growth and Form[1][2][a] and Alan Turing in his The Chemical Basis of Morphogenesis (1952).[
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Turing correctly predicted a mechanism of morphogenesis, the diffusion of two different chemical signals, one activating and one deactivating growth, to set up patterns of development, decades before the formation of such patterns was observed.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogenesis

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Image result for turing morphogenesis

https://www.google.com/search?q=turing+morphogenesis&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTk-WIm4LdAhUSaq0KHT3RD5IQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=407#imgrc=UX2ji_NjpM2kWM:&spf=1534994218243

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Goldschmidt waps a double..another two rbis...D'Backs 3-0...Johnson on mound for Angels...another pinterest link mess...but there are a lot of sites going on about Turing and morphogenesis...Johnson gets out of trouble...to top of 6th...Ohtani up in the pitcher's spot...1-2...broken bat single...lead off hat...keeps breaking bats!...Calhoun grounds out into fc...Ohtani retired...Calhoun on first...Fletcher fouled off a ball on his knee in earlier at bat...now out...Cowert up...

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Arothron mappa.JPG
The map puffer (Arothron mappa), also known as the map pufferfish, is a demersal marine fish belonging to the family Tetraodontidae.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_puffer

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Cowert K...Pujols up...

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D'Backs are up...and just lost a review of play...one out, bottom of 5th...

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Accurate depiction of the Black Sun (Schwarze Sonne) design in the Obergruppenführersaal in Wewelsburg Castle

The Black Sun (German: Schwarze Sonne), also referred to as the Sonnenrad (German for "Sun Wheel"), is a symbol of esoteric and occult significance. Its ancient design is also found on a sun wheel mosaic incorporated into a floor of Wewelsburg Castle during the Nazi era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(occult_symbol)

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D'Backs up...Pujols makes a highlight play at first...3-1 ground out...he's a good defender at first...

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For example, if the inhibitor diffuses faster than the activator, then it quickly spreads around the point of perturbation and decreases the concentration of activator there. So you end up with a region of high activator concentration bordered by high inhibitor concentration — in other words, you have a spot of activator on a background of inhibitor.

https://plus.maths.org/content/uncoiling-spiral-maths-and-hallucinations

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D'Backs are batting...hmmph...that, that looks like a self similar to the chlandi plates...how they work...

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One of Chladni's best-known achievements was inventing a technique to show the various modes of vibration on a rigid surface. When resonating, a plate or membrane is divided into regions that vibrate in opposite directions, bounded by lines where no vibration occurs (nodal lines).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Chladni#Chladni_figures

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'two up two away'...the morphogenesis patterns are like the vibration patterns in another aspect...bottom of 7th...a hit...so, which brings me to my pet notion...that Nature's patterns reveal an invisible something...much as water drops, prism like, can reveal the rainbow colors of sunlight...which is what underlays all the sacred geometers notions...and for that matter, artistries...oh...D'Backs wap a two out home run...D'Backs 5-0...once having seen this, its difficult to walk about and not see this...sometime this 'lens' kind of distorts things...the Valley is an immense curio...it's oriented East West...sandwiched between the North and South Walls...from a coast mountain peak where there is an observatory, one can sight right into Yosemite and see Half Dome...Half Dome has a fetching shape!...lots of thoughts on what it resembles...D'Backs make out...to top of 8th...

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Ansel Adams is one of the greatest photographers of the 20th century, and photographer Elliot McGucken may have discovered a reason why. While viewing some of Adams' public domain work, McGucken realized the presence of the golden ratio in the compositions. This aesthetically pleasing principle, used by architects such as Le Corbusier and present in nature, works to help create harmony that is visually appealing.
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“Whether Ansel used the golden harmonies consciously or unconsciously may remain a mystery forever.”
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McGucken has overlaid many of Adams' public domain photographs with the golden spiral. For more about the golden ratio and art, McGucken has also published a free Kindle book.

https://mymodernmet.com/ansel-adams-golden-ratio/

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Bash on with a lead off double...top of 8th....overlays...overlays can get to be a bit much...have the notion the monoliths in the Valley are sleeping 'transformers' in stone, waiting to wake up...:)...

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The King asleep in mountain (D 1960.2 in Stith Thompson's motif index system)[1] is a prominent folklore motif found in many folktales and legends. Thompson also termed it as the Kyffhäuser type.[2] Some other designations are: king in the mountain, king under the mountain, or sleeping hero.
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The motifs A 571 "Culture hero asleep in mountain", and E 502, "The Sleeping Army" are similar and can occur in the same tale.[1] A related motif is the "Seven Sleepers" (D 1960.1,[2] also known as the "Rip van Winkle" motif), whose type tale is the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus (AT tale type 766).
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In the Brothers Grimm version, the hero speaks with the herdsman. Their conversation typically involves the hero asking, "Do the eagles (or ravens) still circle the mountaintop?" The herdsman, or a mysterious voice, replies, "Yes, they still circle the mountaintop." "Then begone! My time has not yet come."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_in_the_mountain

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maybe that is what Graves is going on about in his famous poem, The White Goddess...

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It was a virtue not to stay,
To go our headstrong and heroic way
Seeking her out at the volcano's head,
Among pack ice, or where the track had faded
Beyond the cavern of the seven sleepers:
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Calhoun K...'Angels get a run, but that's it'...to bottom of 8th...fellows sometimes get carried away putting their dearest on pedestals...there's not time for but a start, but he has another poem that is a curio...The Return of the Goddess, which, I found, when it was published in Poetry magazine was called The Return of the Goddess Artemis, October 1947...

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“Dr Jacobs said Jackson accuses Graves of “robbing” her of key ideas which he appropriated as his own for his seminal study of poetic inspiration, The White Goddess, published in 1948. He claimed that the inspiration for the work, which equates God with women, related to an early essay Jackson wrote in the 1930s called The Idea of God and her book, The Word Woman, which preceded Graves’s magnum opus. The couple moved from Britain to Spain, where Jackson left her manuscript for The Word Woman when the pair fled the country on the outbreak of the civil war in 1936. Dr Jacobs claims it was this manuscript – which Jackson had asked Graves to burn – that the poet used as the basis for The White Goddess.
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Did Graves “steal” ideas from Laura Riding Jackson for “The White Goddess”? Possibly. But one could make the argument that the notion of Goddess religion reborn (or rediscovered) was an idea that had been percolating in British and European culture for some time. Certainly works by Leland, Frazer, Murray, Sharp, Yeats, and several others helped pave the way that “The White Goddess” would eventually tread. I anxiously await the publication of Jacobs’ book for further insight into claims that Graves appropriated ideas for one of his most famous works.

https://wildhunt.org/2008/07/did-robert-graves-steal-white-goddess.html

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hmmph...Mystereons being mysterious...Angels made out...D'Backs made out...to top of 9th...Pujols up....makes out...Simmons makes out...down to last out...Ramera up...2-2...fly out...I've seen Ravens circling up in Tuolumne...forget which lake...oh wait, it's the one off Glacier Point road-- trail that goes to the Cross Country ski hut...cue the Ravens...

:)

DavidDavid


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