OTI:notes:8/9/19

Open To Interpretation

Poses

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Red Sox...top of fourth...Angels 3-1...Upton up...one down...Pujols hit by pitch...Calhoun up...DP...to bottom of fourth...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saharan_rock_art

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Red Sox with lead off double off the Green Monster...there's a feeling that goes with a pose in the Animal Kingdom...body language...and the ancient rock artists were good at conveying feelings, not so good at being realistic drawing artisans...home run...tie game...Angels 3-3...they knew their animals, and what one another looked like when hunting...the cattle above standing around look/feel like cattle standing around...I dunno...what more can be asked of an artistic representation?...if asked to paint on a blank rock cattle standing around, I couldn't, likely no modern artist could, we haven't the direct sense of the scene the ancient rock artists did...they were absolutely sincere and true...note the camel riders!...one camel with forelegs and backlegs together off the ground...the other camel with scissor legs...way on the left is a horse(?) leaping...here again a favorite elephant...

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http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub361/item1463.html

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scissor legs again...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabous_Giraffes

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happening upon the Sahara rock art chariots, the following pose got me to thinking about 'poses', as I keep seeing it...everywhere!...two legs, four legs, all lifted high off the ground running...

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http://hum.lss.wisc.edu/hjdrewal/rockart1.html

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Before the Sahara became a desert, it was home to many savanna animals, including the giraffe. People began to paint and etch the Sahara's animals in desert rock about 12,000 years ago. Archaeologists estimate that the oldest remaining pictures date back to 6500 BCE.

https://www.google.com/search?q=giraffes+saharan+rock+art&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=R5OxGzKlvJN5vM%253A%252CVJzbJv5sCtB6BM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSjPzvk4nuEN8jLyvffRBAbk1oUGg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0gf2hiPfjAhVLLK0KHYI_BR0Q9QEwAXoECAkQCQ#imgrc=f3tS_op2PZybbM:&vet=1&spf=1565397545973

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Boston at bat...runner on...Betts up...Mookie the Menace...not so menacing this year, nor his team...struggling like the Angels...and, the Menace waps a home run...Boston 5-3...mucking around looking at ancient enigmas is a melancholy pursuit...they're all gone...but these Sahara cultures are doubly sad...the cultures are gone, and the environment they knew too...now just a vast hot desert of sand...on return from a visit to Death Valley, I had feeling that this is how everything will be some day...Earth become like Mars...don't want to visit again Death Valley!...or even, for that matter, go to Mars!...the way things go over millions of years, I guess, is that the Sahara will be green again, and somewhere else desert...hmmph...I need to browse and gather more 'poses' from rock art, for tomorrowmorrow, and following...Angels at bat...top of sixth...Trout up...bbk for game update...K...Ohtani up...1-2 the count...ground out...to bottom of sixth...bk...Red Sox 16-4...wot!?...

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DavidDavid

OTI:notes:8/8/19

Open To Interpretation

More reed boats...

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Red Sox...Pujols up...two down...I really tonight haven't a reach...Pujols K...to bottom of seventh...Red Sox 3-0...usually I have something 'compelling'...or maybe it is I want to go lurk in McDuff's streaming webinar currently running...brb...bk...ran briefly...sorting out new broadcast equipment...Angels 123 in top of eighth...the notes I made way back about spy stuff are such that I'm kind of too buffed up!...watching the webinar, reading the streaming notes, I can see the participants are, well, beginners!...and nonetheless certain they are about things of import...history is a big thing to tackle...anyway, here is a page that fills out my notion of ancient sea farers in reed boats...an on and on back a couple weeks...

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http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~vaucher/History/Prehistoric_Craft/

Recent digs have shown that most islands in the Mediterranean were visited or settled by Stone Age people - way before the classic civilizations of Egypt, Mesopotamia and Greece. On Cyprus, agricultural settlements dating to 9,000BC were found and, the first settlements on Crete (~ 7,000BC) precede the Minoan civilization by more than four millennia.

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I'm on the tablet, so link not hot...Fletcher up...long list of Angels' strike outs...just two hits so far tonight...Trout up...missed what happened with Fletcher...0-2 count...K...game over...eesh...15 Ks...

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DavidDavid

OTI:notes:8/6/19

Open To Interpretation

cautionary/caution

Notes: Game on...on the radio...Angels and Reds...top of second...Angels 3-3..."starting pitching has been an issue'...Renigfo grounds out...Stasi K, Angel pitcher up...NL rules...K...123...to bottom of second...on youtube popular now are the webinars...I think that is what they are called...sometimes, when there is an event, a live video feed will be up, and with the split screen effect, beneath or to the side, will be streaming text chat..first time I saw this was a night time broadcast of a hurricane chaser riding about in the Florida night documenting...much wind and flooding...chaser was trying to be in fiercest part of hurricane as it made land fall...just now, thinking on this, I realize that these posts with the baseball season in progress are a stylized version of these webinars...of course the blog post isnt in real time, but it is made in real time...the game notes are the broadcast, and the on and on is the chat...it would be much fun to do this for reals!...during the live game broadcast have chat, and chat focused on a prompt, like  'ancient Greek gorgons'...Reds made out... Fletcher got on base...Trout K...Ohtani not in the line up, NL rules, no DH...actually, the blog is like two 'chats' while the game is on on the radio...Goodwin up...Gorgons have been a reach for sometime soon...I'm still about back formations...Upton up...had a homerun in first...Upton batting 166...so, so...

tributary/tribute...cautionary/caution...offering/offer...

this morning I viewed a McDuff youtube streaming presentation (Watch "Live chat with George Webb at 10am EDT" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/4VWcRT0ZGd4)...more spy buffs' stuff...McDuff's pop was an FBI counter intelligence officer, and involved in catching a spy...McDuff is the the name of the channel, a nickname from George Webb for John...they both have channels...lots of on and ons...intelligence/intelligent...much concern with current news...Reds made out...Angels made out...to bottom of fourth...the webinar is a duet of John and George, and sometimes call ins, and too, responses to some of the streaming chat...both the chat and presentation become meandering rambles loosely tethered to a prompt, some subject presented...anyone can participate in the chat...the whole thing is a bit like raiding or dungeon running in video game WOW...after the stream is over, the video becomes the usual youtube clip with a comment tail...commentators can fill out what was said in chat, or just present comments, and the comments become a permanent back and forth, whicn can be updated, added too, edited somewhat, for like, forever!...this is what I've envisioned for the ancient enigma notes!...the Mysterions do webinars too...everyone is on about them...they are everywhere...and, and they are very 'clubby'...each one like a WOW guild...members only...as in only those familiar with the chat/vlog seem to know one another and what's going on...cliqueish/clique..as Brian Foerster wanders ancient ruins with his tours he live streams, I think...not sure...maybe...and then he cleans up his video and posts it as usual...the whole thing amounts to a 'crowd source' presentation/present...the big world possibilities of this are in that movie The Circle...circular/circle...brb...

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Mae Holland (Emma Watson) seizes the opportunity of a lifetime when she lands a job with the world's most powerful technology and social media company. Encouraged by the company's founder (Tom Hanks), Mae joins a groundbreaking experiment that pushes the boundaries of privacy, ethics and personal freedom. Her participation in the experiment, and every decision she makes soon starts to affect the lives and futures of her friends, family and that of humanity.

Imbd

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if I remember right, Watson puts out a social media call to locate her lost friend, and a crowd sourcing frenzy ensues...possibilities/possible...vlogs are trying to live stream with chat the presidential debates...debating/debate...but google/youtube is blocking them...which has led to a kind of revolt of the artifacts (Moche allusion/allude)...much pleading about the loss of monetization/money...Reds  scored some runs...Trout up...troutahere...homerun...homer/home...Reds 6-4...that movie The Circle begins with someone drawing one of those Zen circles, if I remember right...hmmph...Angels made out...to bottom of fifth...enough...it's taco teusday... and cheap tacos at the big screens streaming sports bar...streaming/stream...bbk w/update...Reds 7-4...rain delay...top of eighth...

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DavidDavid

OTI:notes:8/5/19

Open To Interpretation

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Reds...bottom of fifth...Reds 6-1...Angels let the game get away again in the first inning...Reds scored 5 runs...after the Trojan war, there were these homecomings: Odysseus, Agamemnon, and Aeneas...I dont know what happened to Helen, the girl the Trojan War was about...the stories of these returns are all back formations, stories to establish pedigree and provenence, or some such...hard to figure and describe...123...to top of sixth...Fletcher up...ground out...Trout up...troutahere!...home run...Reds 6-2...

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. Ultimately, Paris was killed in action, and in Homer's account Helen was reunited with Menelaus, though other versions of the legend recount her ascending to Olympus instead.

from wiki Helen of Troy

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Angels make out...to bottom of sixth...Reds made out...to top of seventh...

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Mythology - New World Encyclopedia
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Mythology

Some myths are based on historical events. These myths can over time become imbued with symbolic meaning, transformed, shifted in time or place, or even reversed. Over time, such "myths" make the transition from "legendary occurrence" to "mythical status," as the event takes on progressively greater symbolic resonance while the facts become less important. By the time it reaches the status of myth, the story has taken on a life of its own and the facts of the original event have become almost irrelevant. A classical example of this process is the Trojan War, an historical event that is now a part of Greek mythology.

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Smith K...Costillo, Reds pitcher on a roll, lots of Ks, set a personal record for Ks in a game...back-formation is the term I'm using for above...another K...13!...to bottom of seventh...and, there must be a term for that!...anyway, a grand thought is that archaeoligists are engaged in discovering the historical events that became the myths...this has a counterpart...news reports tend to mythologize things, and a task is to discover the true events...it just happens, then as now...Sandoval, Angels' pitcher, his rookie debut, did good too...five innings 1 run scored...Reds score on passed ball another run...grounder back to pitcher Garcia...to top of eighth...Reds 7-2...Regnifo and Tovar reach bases, 1st and 3rd...Fletcher up...2-1 the count...3-2...fly out...Trout up...K...Calhoun fly out...to bottom of eighth...123 on just five pitches from Garcia...to top of ninth...Upton up...K...Thais up...W...Goodwin pinch hits for Smith...homerun!...Reds 7-4...Pujols up in pitcher's spot...K...Renigfo up...1-1 the count...1-2...2-2...3-2...W...Ohtani up...1-1 the count...1-2...2-2...K...and, that's how the ballgame ends...Reds 7-4...

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DavidDavid

OTI:notes:8/4/19

Open To Interpretation

Diverted

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Indians...top of ninth...post effort has been diverted!...watching now George Webb on youtube clip...Trout fly out...he's on a boat talking to group that looks like my sister's rock club...they're all spy buffs!...Ohtani K...spy stuff research akin to ancient enigmas, and often just as grim...Pujols makes out...Indians 6-2...sigh...Angels in a slump, they lost last night too, Indians 7-3...

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Watch "George Webb speaks at the Russian Retreat on the Corsica River, Md., 072019" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/_4hfEYYu9i0

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:)

DavidDavid

OTI:notes:8/3/19

Open To Interpretation

Onomasiology

Notes: Game on...on the radio...Angels and Indians...Upton up...Ohtani on second, Fletcher on third..."Angels trying to get some runs"...top of sixth...Indians 5-0...I've been trying to wrap my thoughts around the back-formation linguistic term, and the related term Ononmasiology...and, and I was watching a Nat Geo clip of a srange fish, and listening, and then reading the comments, I thought, 'oh, that's a back-formation/onomasiolog...or some such...I dunno...I may have it all wrong...sac fly brings in run...Indians 5-1...Angels made out...to bottom of sixth...

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Watch "Scientists' Hilarious Reaction to Bizarre Deep-Sea Fish | National Geographic" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/u7QXdlSBGGY

Scientists in movies: "Ah yes, from its form and this depth range I can discern with 67% accuracy that this is a specimen of eurypharynx pelecanoides, which belongs to an order closely related to-"
Actual scientists:  "It looks like a muppet!  Whaaaat look at its face!  It has googly eyes!!!"
OrdonWolf-9 months ago (edited)

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomasiology

Onomasiology (from Greek: ὀνομάζω (onomāzο)—to name, which in turn is from ὄνομα—name) is a branch of linguistics concerned with the question "how do you express X?" It is in fact most commonly understood as a branch of lexicology, the study of words (although some apply the term also to grammarand conversation).

Onomasiology, as a part of lexicology, starts from a concept which is taken to be prior[1] (i.e. an idea, an object, a quality, an activity etc.) and asks for its names. The opposite approach is known as semasiology: here one starts with a word and asks what it means, or what concepts the word refers to. Thus, an onomasiological question is, e.g., "what are the names for long, narrow pieces of potato that have been deep-fried?" (answers: french fries in the US, chips in the UK, etc.), while a semasiological question is, e.g., "what is the meaning of the term chips?" (answers: 'long, narrow pieces of potato that have been deep-fried' in the UK, 'slim slices of potatoes deep fried or baked until crisp' in the US).

Onomasiology can be carried out synchronically or diachronically, i.e. historically.

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One needs to see the clip!...the comment has like 25k likes...I need to do some more browsing to sort this out...post this from my tablet...bbk for score update...and more tomorrowmorrow...

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DavidDavid

OTI:notes:8/2/19

Open To Interpretatiom

Back-formation

Notes:  Game on...on the radio...Angels and Indians...Indians 7-1...Trout with W...Ohtani up...posting from the tablet, so, maybe no pics, and links not blue/active...Ohtani K...this term, back-formation, that I happened on in previous post...Upton K...in previous post is a curio!...hard to picture how it works linguistically, and then gets picked up and applied to mythology...invention, a loan word gets back formed to make invent...oh, these quote cover it linguistically,  but difficult to follow...some of it looks much like my double word musings...invent/invention...invent invent...hmmph...I dunno...Calhoun fly out...to bottom of eighth...

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeridae

The natural further step is to argue that Homer, the supposed founder, is a mythical figure, a mere back-formation, deriving his name from that of the later guild.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-formation

In etymology, back-formation is the process of creating a new lexeme by removing actual or supposed affixes.[1] The resulting neologism is called a back-formation, a term coined by James Murray[2] in 1889. (OED online preserves its first use of 'back-formation' from 1889 in the definition of to burgle; from burglar.)[3]

For example, the noun resurrection was borrowed from Latin, and the verb resurrect was then back-formed hundreds of years later from it by removing the -ion suffix. This segmentation of resurrection into resurrect + ion was possible because English had examples of Latinate words in the form of verb and verb+-ion pairs, such as opine/opinion. These became the pattern for many more such pairs, where a verb derived from a Latin supine stem and a noun ending in ionentered the language together, such as insert/insertion, project/projection, etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomasiology

Onomasiology (from Greek: ὀνομάζω (onomāzο)—to name, which in turn is from ὄνομα—name) is a branch of linguistics concerned with the question "how do you express X?" It is in fact most commonly understood as a branch of lexicology, the study of words (although some apply the term also to grammarand conversation).

Onomasiology, as a part of lexicology, starts from a concept which is taken to be prior[1] (i.e. an idea, an object, a quality, an activity etc.) and asks for its names. The opposite approach is known as semasiology: here one starts with a word and asks what it means, or what concepts the word refers to. Thus, an onomasiological question is, e.g., "what are the names for long, narrow pieces of potato that have been deep-fried?" (answers: french fries in the US, chips in the UK, etc.), while a semasiological question is, e.g., "what is the meaning of the term chips?" (answers: 'long, narrow pieces of potato that have been deep-fried' in the UK, 'slim slices of potatoes deep fried or baked until crisp' in the US).

Onomasiology can be carried out synchronically or diachronically, i.e. historically.

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So, so, how it works with mythology is like a culture needs a founding myth, an answer to: "where did we come from, how did we start?", or some mythological explanation for an event, or Natural phenomona, or even things like the origen of the whole Earth and Universe...for the Romans there was Romulus and Remus...Virgil added the Aneid, which said Romans descended from the Fall of Troy...oh, all this for tomorrowmorrow!...Indians made out...to top of ninth...Renigfo hit by pitch...'sounded like ball hitting bat'...it hit his arm protector...Thais with a hit...two runs score...Indians 7-3...Fletcher up...Indian runs all came in first three innings...I took a nap...rookie pitch came in in first inning for Angels, and went 7 and a half...Fletch made out...Trout fly out...game over...sigh...it's too hot...oh, that bit about french fries relates to captioning!...for sometime...

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DavidDavid