OTI:notes1:6/25/19

Open To Interpretation

Foundation Deposits

Notes: As I go along, I happen on things that go with things in old posts, and I wish I had happened on them when I was doing the posts!...these pics go with the last few days...

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https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0624/e21ce8fdc2b32f6f16dd9f04113b62bcefaa.pdf?_ga=2.227835165.1698001939.1561497803-1601744265.1534823590

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I made a stubborn image search after finding the Sumerian foundation pegs, which stepped to Egyptian foundation deposits, and, that continues!...that pdf above has some dedication inscriptions...generally, foundation deposits are a universal world wide phenomena, which, is something, I'm not sure what...trick maybe with editing spelling in English is to pronounce each letter distinctly for what they are, like in Spanish...fee no me na...I forget if Spanish has an 'ahhh'...I dunno...first, I don't know a word's spelling, then, when I find it, or have used it correctly before, I forget it, and have to look carefully and hang on to it from the dictionary on line...phaoraoh, nope...pharaoh...yep...Pythagorean...yep...Herodotus...oh, on a roll...anyway...I found a good youtube clip about the Egyptian foundation rituals, there are like ten events that were celebrated...arrival of Pharaoh at the site; stretching the chord, to lay out the site; plowing the foundation; pouring the sand into the trenches (the sand was base for the stones or mud bricks); setting a stone in place...  and, well, I'll source them...lots of sites about them, but very very few show the vignettes on all the temple walls...the clip does that okay...it set me back to see the vignettes...it's obvious how they related to just building...nothing mystical or weird about them...and the Egyptians thought of them enough to make them as large as all the other vignettes...I gather from seeing them that the Egyptians were keen on event rituals: this happens, then this, then this...like the stations of the Cross, the events of Jesus going to the crucifixion...and that's how ancient vignettes are supposed to often be read...events in a sequential passage, a ritual...the Greek's have event vignettes, but they are from a whole mythological story, not a part of something like building a temple, or burying a Pharaoh...though stories do have a 'story line', so, there's that...the youtube site: (push through the intro, and mute the music!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1ofI7neyg

and then I found this pdf, which is really good...

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The fourth ritual in the series is the excavation of the foundation trench by the

king and is entitled “hoeing the earth.” In the accompanying relief sculpture, the king
grasps a large hoe with both hands (fig. 124). The texts indicate that the king is to dig “as
far as the limit of Nun.” Here, as in later scenes, the foundation ritual attempts to mimic
certain realities described in the Egyptian cosmogony. Nun is the name of the primeval
waters of chaos out of which the world was created. According to Egyptian creation
myths, out of Nun rose the primeval mound of earth on which the first temple was built.
In the context of the temple foundations, the “limit of Nun” may have been symbolized
by the water table. This ritual is sometimes reflected in the contents of Egyptian

foundation deposits (especially in the 18th Dynasty), which can include model hoes (see

below).395

https://cdr.lib.unc.edu/concern/parent/mp48sd548/file_sets/dj52w544w

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oh, I forgot 'making the mud brick'...site has like eight of them...and is more about Greek foundation deposits, but explains where the Greeks got the idea, and it is an 'of course', that foundation deposits relate to tomb deposits...the Egyptian ones are kind of funky, just plain pots, tools, building materials...but, and then, over in Persia, there's Darius' Box...brb...

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The Apadana hoard is a hoard of coins that were discovered under the stone boxes containing the foundation tablets of the Apadana Palace in Persepolis.

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apadana_hoard#/media/File:Aegina_Stater_achaic.jpg}
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I happened on a page that was going on about the Mormon founder Joseph Smith and his legendary gold plates, and it linked to Darius' as an example to what Joseph's may have looked like (Darius' are too big)...Darius' tablets were made of gold and silver, and that gold coin found with them is a curio!...I'll make a second post today when the game comes on this evening--Turtle Island...

:)

DavidDavid