Monday, August 14, 2023

Moche Corn Husks X:OTI::pic,notes:::8/14/2023

Open To Interpretation










https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Goddess_of_Teotihuacan#/media/File:Tetitla_Diosa_de_Jade.jpg








https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-red-mural-at-palace-of-quetzalpapalotl-quetzalmariposa-in-teotihuacan-16208196.html










Also in the mural of Tepantitla, the “Great Goddess” sits on a throne, or possibly wears an apron, that features three obsidian mirrors surrounded by an arc of stars. This imagery is very reminiscent of the three stars we know today as Orion’s Belt, which were highly revered in Mesoamerica, especially by the Maya who believed they represented the Sacred Turtle and the three hearth stones of creation. The same symbolism is found on the pillars of the Palace of Quetzalpapalotl, where the owl appears to sit on a throne inlaid with three obsidian stones (see fig. W2-0016).

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 The fleur-de-lis icon is very similar to the one used in Mayan art, which is thought to symbolise the ripening of the maize plant with two leaves peeling back to reveal the cob. 



https://uncoveredhistory.com/mexico/teotihuacan/teotihuacan-palace-of-quetzalpapalotl/


The three cornered stone refers to the maize ear, represented

during the Maya Classic period as sometimes

pointed pendant jadeite celts, occasionally alone, but typically

 

in groups of three [52, p. 42]. Because the Chilam

Balam refers to creation here, it is of note that the cosmic

hearth of creation, the “First-Three-Stone-Place” id



http://treeinthedoorvideo.blogspot.com/2020/08/cornfieldotinotes81020.html











https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fINFprTeUTE













https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantean_figures#/media/File:Telamones_Tula.jpg











https://smarthistory.org/teotihuacan-2/
















https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/maya/teachers/resource-maya-gods-maize-god-e













https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C4%81loc










https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teotihuacan










Interestingly, the X marking is not limited to representations of corn and Mythical Harvesters. Some beans or drop-shaped seeds are also decorated with an X (Proulx 2006: figure 5.231). Another motif that has the X marking is the kidney-shaped fruit (Proulx 2006:165-166). An Effigy Harvester in Figure 12 differs in some ways from the Art Institute example. This Harvester does not have the X or the conical hat, but it still displays dots on its face. It is also shown holding corn. Furthermore, its eyes are located within two depictions of corn-cobs. The artist has placed corn-cobs (which are full of seeds) over the eyes of the main figure, equating both. The juxtaposition of eyes and corn-cobs reinforces the eye-seed metaphor.




https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1157&context=andean_past

 








http://research.famsi.org/zapotec/zapotec_list.php?rowstart=30&search=glyph%20F&num_pages=6&title=Zapotec%20Effigy%20Vessels&tab=zapotec

A British team of archaeologists on expedition in the Peruvian Andes has hailed as "sensational" the discovery of some of the most sacred objects in the Inca civilisation – three "ancestor stones", which were once believed to form a precious link between the heavens and the underworld.

The find, which was made on an isolated Andean mountainside, provoked joy among local specialists and the experts present from, among others, the British MuseumReading University and Royal Holloway, University of London. No examples of the stones were thought to have survived until now.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/05/inca-ancestor-stones-andes

This imagery is very reminiscent of the three stars we know today as Orion’s Belt, which were highly revered in Mesoamerica, especially by the Maya who believed they represented the Sacred Turtle and the three hearth stones of creation. The same symbolism is found on the pillars of the Palace of Quetzalpapalotl, where the owl appears to sit on a throne inlaid with three obsidian stones (see fig. W2-0016).



https://uncoveredhistory.com/mexico/teotihuacan/teotihuacan-palace-of-quetzalpapalotl/











see yesterdays post-wiki source for pic





https://www.pinterest.com/pin/8444318035575150/


The costume associated with most of these figures is a shirt that appears to be made of metal plates, probably sewn on cloth, and has a jagged or dentate lower edge; a nose ornament; and a headdress with a semicircle over the brow that may have an owl head in the center and/or upward projections at the sides. The owl sacrificer often wears garments different from those of the warrior-if it is the same creature, he may have changed garments-but he sometimes shares the plate-shirt costume with the warrior (Figure 5).

A Moche "Spatula" ELIZABETH P. BENSON Institute of Andean Studies


 

Notes:   Game on...on the radio...Angels at Texas...Astros leave three on...Sandoval on mound struck out the side...more about the dot in square...Moche use X to indicate corn husks...if a motif is mysterious, first guess what about it might be, is corn, maize...after that, rain...the Tlaloc figure has the dot in square around its eyes, the quincunx, and I remembered the Mayan motif for maize is like a quincunx, with an X...worn as a pectoral...I've  seen the dot and diamond pattern on the Mayan turtle shell, with corn growing out of it...that one Tlaloc codex drawing has Tlaloc wearing a diamond dot cloak, and shield...I did a post about cornfields...about the Three Stones...the Maya had Three Stones, and the Andeans had Three Stones...at Teotihuacan is the temple with the feathered serpent...it alternates with another head,  what I thought is Tlaloc....the big round eyes, surrounded by small squares....the squares must be the dot in square?, like around the eyes, instead of owl rays...the Tlaloc Mixtec kneeling warrior has rayed eyes, like the Moche Owls...oh, wait, I thought, those squares, tightly packed together, those could be corn kernels...the dot in square is corn?...rain and corn...there are like four kinds of rain, one good, the rest malevolent, like floods...bottom of second...no score...the Feathered Serpent Temple is at Teotihuacan....browsing there I found a step fret mural, and much else....the Choc Mol(Choc is Mayan Tlaloc) at Chichen Itza has a beaded headdress, and it's ear things a step fret, and on its chest the butterfly pectoral....the Chac Mols headdress is the same as the Toltec warrirors, who connect to the Choc Mols-butterfly pectoral (old posts)....is the Toltec Warrior headdress corn kernels?...are the Inca polygon walls corn kernels!?...lol....I was up much of the night, browsing, beginning with just the Moche X as a corn husk...Nieves had that....and things just went from worse to worser, this to say more and more fantastic...so many connects!...hard to know where to begin, or end!...well, let me put up the quote from the last thing I found, sorta...I keep finding things!...and Angels keep giving up runs...Astros 5-Angels 0...bottom of fourth...top of fifth...Astros 5-Angels 0...Uncovered History, see link, has it Tlaloc's big eyes are Owl eyes, the whole Teotihuacan complex dedicated to a Owl Great Goddess...and the dot in square could be armor plaques...Astros 12-Angels 3

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