OTI:one poem, notes:5/8/18

Open To Interpretation

Lost Boat

Petra looked long,

Regarding the stranger's name,

Looked to the Black Ship crews

Gathered on the wharf

Below Volcano Never;

Embarrassed.

"I've lost the pronunciation,

How to say your name."

Petra said.

"Easy enough to happen

With a name as long,

And foreign, as mine."

The stranger said.

Petra smiled,

"Just so." she said.

The stranger looked to the crews.

"Call me Pakal,

And we need your help."

"How so?" asked Poe.

"Just to look for now,

We've lost our First Boat

And simply haven't enough

Eyes between us to find it."

Said Pakal.

"What?  Like looking for a

Lost ring on a sandy beach?"

Asked Melville.

"A like.  Except it may

Have been stolen."

 Said Pakal.

"And what may this First Ship

Look like?"  asked Ishmael.

"Just like that one."

Pakal said, and pointed to

Ichi's Long Slender Craft

Moored to the wharf.

And Ichi smiled.

 

 

DolphinWords

 

 

Notes: 14th in series, see previous...game on soon, Angels vs Rockies...an even match...win loss records alike...browsed around Polynesia awhile...had forgotten the mystery of how all those islands became occupied...and there's stone ruins here and there...and the giant stone money that look like grinding stones...round with a whole in the center...curios in Paradise...don't know but a question about convergent or cultural contacts should begin with Polynesia...brb...

 

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The Society archipelago is a hotspot volcanic chain consisting of ten islands and atolls.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahiti

 

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oh!...I didn't know Tahiti was over a 'hotspot' like Hawaii, like Yellowstone...there's a search on for a lost Volcano...well, one with a wallop of an eruption that no one can source...suspicion is a volcano blew up, and what was left submerged under the ocean...brb...oh..wait...

 

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Bougainville only stayed about ten days on the island, which he called "Nouvelle-Cythère ", or "New Cythera (the island of Aphrodite)",

 

same wiki

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fond of Wateau's Pilgrimage to Cythera...

 

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After Watteau’s death, his art fell out of fashion. During the French Revolution, some eighty years after the work was painted, his depictions of lavishly set pastoral escapades were associated with the old days of the monarchy and a frivolous aristocracy. This particular piece, which had entered the collection of the Louvre in 1795, was used by art students for target practice; an account by Pierre Bergeret (1782–1863) describes the drawing students throwing bread pellets at it.^[5] In the early 19th century the curator at the Louvre was forced to place it in storage until 1816 in order to protect the painting from angry protesters. It was not until the 1830s that Watteau and the Rococo returned into fashion.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Embarkation_for_Cythera

 

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Included in the party was the botanist Philibert Commerçon (who named the flower Bougainvillea) and his valet. The ship's surgeon later revealed this person as Jeanne Baré, possibly Commerçon's mistress; she would become the first woman known to circumnavigate the globe.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Antoine_de_Bougainville

 

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hmmph...a curio!...another: Captain Cook comes along, as Tahiti was situated for his study of the transit of Venus--Aphrodite/Cythera...

 

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During a transit, Venus appears as a small black disc travelling across the Sun. This unusual astronomical phenomenon takes place in a pattern that repeats itself every 243 years.

 

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Not only would their findings help expand scientific knowledge, it would help with navigation by accurately calculating the observer's longitude. At this time, longitude was difficult to determine and not always precise.^[2] A "secret" mission that followed the transit included the exploration of the South Pacific to find the legendary Terra Australis Incognita or "unknown land of the South."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1769_Transit_of_Venus_observed_from_Tahiti

 

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diversions!...that missing eruption/Volcano...game on/radio...kid choir singing anthem...

 

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Soon evidence began emerging from other sources, too. The languages from islands surrounding the crater all appeared to have common linguistic roots, suggesting they may have evolved from the same dialect many hundreds of years ago.

 

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170630-the-massive-volcano-that-scientists-cant-find

 

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story can't conclude they find it, and lists possibilities...all in the 1500s, or thereabout, a time when in Europe, and around the world, there was the unusual weather associated with Pacific volcano eruptions...

 

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In Sweden, crops failed and grain stores emptied. Across Europe, trees stopped growing. In China, tens of thousands of people froze to death. Months after, it snowed non-stop for 40 days below the Yangtze River (the same latitude as Northern Mexico) and the Yellow Sea froze up to 20 km (13 miles) out from the shore. On the other side of the world, the Aztecs were faced with the greatest famine experienced in pre-history.

 

same as previous

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hooey...interleague game...NL rules...no DH, pitcher pitches and hits...Ohtani not in the line up as either!...well, he just pitched day before yesterday....apparently, we are all just a supervolcano eruption away from a mini ice age...those Islanders are a miniature of the notion of a disaster and diaspora...they had a wild story to go with it too, which the article side steps...brb...Upton hit, Pujols hit...1st 2nd two outs...walk...Cozart up...K...

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If, however, one supposes that the stories are not fables but legends recording history in an allegorical code, interpretation acquires a different context. It then becomes a matter of cracking the code. For this to be done it is necessary to compare the legend with known historical facts, but that is not all. In the case of Polynesian legends at least, one must give full allowance for the role of metaphor, allegory and multiple meaning which evidently was integral to the genre of legend-making.

http://www.jps.auckland.ac.nz/document//Volume_105_1996/Volume_105%2C_No._3/Legend_and_history%3A_Did_the_Vanuatu-Tonga_kava_trade_cease_in_A.D._1447%3F%2C_by_David_Luders%2C_p_287-310/p1

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three quick outs..top of 2nd...

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This was a colossal eruption. It was one of the eight greatest volcanic events in the past ten thousand years.

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Garanger also excavated a burial on Tongoa island believed to be that of Ti Tongoa Liseiriki, the hero of the recolonisation of Tongoa after the eruption of Kuwae. Supporting his interpretation of this excavation he reiterated Guiart's rendition of the legend of the explosion.

In 1994 I recorded substantially the same legend, with the verifying songs. Briefly, the legend is that the catastrophe was caused by the actions of a young man whose parents had been refugees from an erupting island to the north (Lopevi, then called Lumbarae). His mother had been reduced to prostitution and he was tricked into sexual congress with her. In his shame, he determined to wreak revenge by destroying the island, using magic from their home island. He held feasts on successive days, each time killing a pig and preserving the pig's bladder, dried and inflated. On the sixth day, at the final feast, he burst each bladder in turn, causing successively more violent earth movement. On his bursting the final bladder, the volcano erupted from beneath him.

 

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so, a culture established among these islands, then the volcano erupted, sinking some of them?, and afterwards oral stories handed down, in the fantastic fashion which seems so common in myths, and since collected...this article a dense read!...

 

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“Her tongue had fallen back”: the great tongue of erupting magma had shot up, ceased, and seawater had then rushed into the “mouth”, which may have remained mildly active as, intermittently, it is still. The man “looked on the placenta of the woman which had become red in the lips of the woman”: the land around the site of the eruption, the “mouth” (and also the source of the placenta, birth being eruption), was red, raw, naked volcanic earth. (There may also have been a redness visible beneath the sea due to remnant activity. Tongoan eyewitnesses have described such a sight to me.) Well might the man be afraid!

The imagery seems plain enough. It is also noteworthy that three bodily metaphors — mouth and tongue, birth and placenta, entrails — are interwoven in a confusing way. This may be an example of the legend-maker's art of measured obscurity in poetic allegory.

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nothing doing second inning...on to top of 3rd...grabbed that for the last sentence: "This may be an example..."...well, this has been everyone's hope...to somehow link the fantastic in myths to an anchoring reality..."the crowd was going nuts" watching Ohtani wap homeruns during batting practice..."all ground outs and strike outs"...on to bottom 3rd...the article goes on mostly about 'kava'...

 

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Prized kava certainly was, especially in scarcity. Reserved for the highest classes, its qualities considered an avenue to the unseen world, it bordered on the mystical. It was probably more alluring to Polynesians than were spices, tea, coffee and opium to Europeans and Asians. If those commodities could produce the voyaging, rivalry and conflicts they did, kava could have drawn Tongans to Melanesia. Indeed, there can be few more likely conjunctions than Vanuatu's wealth of kava and sailors of “imperial” Tonga to explain the carriage of kava into Polynesia.

 

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Oh, the volcano ended the Kava trade...

 

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However long the trade went on, the Kuwae explosion stopped it. One can scarcely overstate the effect this stupendous occurrence must have had.

 

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dink hit, bunt, dink hit...run scores...Rockies 1-0...brb...

 

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The day of revealing shall see what it sees:
A seeing of facts, a sifting of rumors,
An insight won by the black sacred ʻawa,
A vision like that of a sacred god!^{[this quote needs a citation]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava

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hmmph...kava reminds me the Mayans and their chocolate...kava sounds like lava...brb...well, there's a reading, open mic...bottom 5th, Rockies 1-0...brb...bk...small group at the Gypsy Den...but enough...listened, then picked up when it went over the top modernist laced with profanities...I dunno...disappointing as I'd have liked to do one...but just feel pushed to the side...bullied even...which is ironic...as poems of that sort are usually about some kind of bullying...Calhoun came up bottom of ninth, ph...Angels down 2, one out, one on...and an infield dribbler and dp...Rockies 4-Angels 2...don't know the details of innings 6-8...Upton hit two run homerun...that about it for the Angels offense...and, another game on!...Warriors demolishing the Pelicans in the third quarter...the season has moved to its foregone conclusions...Cleveland and Boston, Warriors and Rockets...the rest of the season much to do about...promotion...where was I...lava...brb...

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ʻAʻā is one of three basic types of flow lava. ʻAʻā is basaltic lava characterized by a rough or rubbly surface composed of broken lava blocks called clinker. The Hawaiian word was introduced as a technical term in geology by Clarence Dutton.

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Pāhoehoe (/pəˈhoʊiˈhoʊi/; from Hawaiian [paːˈhoweˈhowe],^[15] meaning "smooth, unbroken lava"), also spelled pahoehoe, is basaltic lava that has a smooth, billowy, undulating, or ropy surface. These surface features are due to the movement of very fluid lava under a congealing surface crust.

(like a canoe paddle swirling water)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava

lava in Hawaii on the news looks to be a a...brb...

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Xiuhtecuhtli's face is painted with black and red pigment.<sup>[

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Xiuhtecuhtli was usually depicted adorned with turquoise mosaic, wearing the turquoise xiuhuitzolli crown of rulership on his head and a turquoise butterfly pectoral on his chest,^[25] and he often wears a descending turquoise xiuhtototl bird (Cotinga amabilis) on his forehead and the Xiuhcoatl fire serpent on his back.^[26] He owns fire serpent earplugs.^[11] On his head he has a paper crown painted with different colors and motifs. On top of the crown there are sprays of green feathers, like flames from a fire.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiuhtecuhtli

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Aztec god of Volcanos, and fire in general...homes had a perpetual flame in his honor...his description sounds like the Tula Warriors...



One of 4 male and 1 female stone figures depicting the warriors who support the gods’ creation by their military actions, originally in the ceremonial precinct of the Templo Mayor, and discovered in 1944. These warrior figures may have formed part of a sacred building in Tenochtitlan representing the Aztec vision of the cosmos. Whilst the other four figures marked the four cardinal directions, this bearded figure indicated the centre of the universe, the ‘crossroads’ of the four directions. They all wear large stylised butterfly pectorals of Toltec origin, a pattern repeated on their helmets.
http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/artefacts/spotlight/deified-warrior

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well...the butterfly breastplate is a will-o-wisp!...let me see if I can find Capt. Cooks depiction of the Tahitians' boat, and the Mayan boats Columbus saw...seven point game....Pelicans making a last gasp run...this is just a torment!...Warriors are just mean!

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Christopher Columbus encountered the Maya in the Yucatan on his fourth voyage to the New World. His son Ferdinand wrote:

"...there arrived at that time a canoe long as a galley and eight feet [2.5m] wide, made of a single tree trunk like the other Indian canoes; it was freighted with merchandise from the western regions around New Spain. Amidships it had a palm-leaf awning like that which the Venetian gondolas carry; this gave complete protection against the rain and waves. Under this awning were the children and women and all the baggage and merchandise. There were twenty-five paddlers...."

http://indigenousboats.blogspot.com/search/label/Maya

hmmph...Warriors  113-104...that indigenous boat sight is knockdown...more tomorrow morrow...

 

:)

DavidDavid
 

OTI:one poem notes:5/6/18

Open To Interpretation

Tongues

You can all come back tomorrow, dancing,
Tongues all out with your Polynesian war
Stomping.

DolphinWords


Notes: 12th in series...see previous...game on!...Kinsler fly out to left...Upton up....google now recommends sites I might like, having reviewed my browses...well, the 'bots' do this...this is in the list this afternoon...brb...Trout a day off?...hmmph...wait...Trout just stole second...was he lead off?...Simmons grounds out...Upton had walked...

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“Papyrus Jumilhac, dating to the Ptolemaic Period (ca. 300 BC), attempts to explain the significance of the leopard skin through a myth that relates the misdeeds of the god Seth. As told in the papyrus, Seth attacked Osiris and then transformed himself into a leopard. The god Anubis defeated Seth and then branded his pelt with spots, hence the robe commemorates the defeat of Seth.”

http://www.ancient-origins.net/history/sem-priests-ancient-egypt-their-role-and-impact-funerary-contexts-part-0010007

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a curio...one of the claimed similarity between the Mayans and Hindus was the respective wearing of Jaguar and Tiger pelts by the priests...brb...ground out, k, 'two are gone for Ohtani'...fly out...top 2nd...Cozart home run!...and then Young gets one!...Angels 2...

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The jaguar (Panthera onca) is an animal with a prominent association and appearance in the cultures and belief systems of pre-Columbian Mesoamerican societies in the New World, similar to the lion (Panthera leo) and tiger (Panthera tigris) in the Old World.

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Archeologists have found a jar in Guatemala, attributed to the Maya of the Late Classic Era (600-900 AD), which depicts a musical instrument that has been reproduced and played. This instrument is astonishing in at least two respects. First, it is the only stringed instrument known in the Americas prior to the introduction of European musical instruments. Second, when played, it produces a sound virtually identical to a jaguar's growl. A sample of this sound is available at the Princeton Art Museum website

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguars_in_Mesoamerican_cultures

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Kinsler, Trout, Upton...usual order...top of 3rd...Ohtani has 3 Ks...Trout walks....I got to watching ethnic folk dances on youtube...the warrior dance from New Zealand has worked its way into dance routines at basketball games hereabout...another K...

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The haka (plural haka, in both Māori and English) is a traditional war cry, war dance, or challenge in Māori culture.^[1] It is a posture dance performed by a group, with vigorous movements and stamping of the feet with rhythmically shouted accompaniment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka

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fly out to Blash?...sub in for Calhoun in right...some new players today to me...ground out...'a clean inning'...top of 4 Angels 2 Mariners 1...there are a lot of ethnic folk dance clips on youtube!...last night did a 'inca dance' search...brb...Cozart lead off double...Young sac bunt...runners on 2nd and 3rd one out...play at plate on tapper...2nd out...

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"As might be expected from an instrument that has been around since neolithic times, conch-shell trumpets are found almost everywhere, including inland areas."^[2] In Israel/Palestine, "the [Charonia tritonis nodifera] conch trumpet was used at a very early stage in antiquity (from approximately the third millennium B.C.[E.] on)."^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_(instrument)

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lol...wiki's conch bit has it that movieAlien thought to use conches for the alien ship scene...Ridley thought them a good fit, and used then else ware in sound track too...have opened page with soundtrack playing on youtube...multitasking...they have an eerie sound...

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An Indian conch, partially processed via an Echoplex delay, was featured prominently in the score for the film Alien (1979). Initially, composer Jerry Goldsmith used the conch during a scene depicting the extraterrestrial environment of a derelict spaceship. However, director Ridley Scott was so impressed by the eerie effect that he requested its use throughout the rest of the score, including during the main titles.^[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_(instrument)

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Young on 1st, strike three passed ball...Rivera waps a double, Young scores...this a misery for Mariners!...we'll take it...the conches are used to make a drone for dancers...awhile back I was looking up dithyrambs...brb...Trout waps a homerun!...6-0 Angels...12th home run for Trout...Mookie the Menace leading AL with 13, 14?...Mookie hit 3 in one game the other night, like Boston game I saw...he's done that four times now...

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The dithyramb (Ancient Greek: διθύραμβος, dithyrambos) was an ancient Greek hymn sung and danced in honor of Dionysus, the god of wine and fertility; the term was also used as an epithet of the god:^[1] Plato, in The Laws, while discussing various kinds of music mentions "the birth of Dionysos, called, I think, the dithyramb."^[2] Plato also remarks in the Republic that dithyrambs are the clearest example of poetry in which the poet is the only speaker.^{[
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Dithyrambs were sung by choirs at Delos, but the literary fragments that have survived are largely Athenian. In Athens, dithyrambs were sung by a Greek chorus of up to fifty men or boys dancing in circular formation, who may or may not have been dressed as Satyrs, probably accompanied by the aulos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dithyramb

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The aulos, which is the double flute, would set up a drone...which could be annoying...brb...'not much happening'...Ohtani sets the Mariners down, on to top of 7th...6-0

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The battle scene on the Chigi vase shows an aulos player setting a lyrical rhythm for the hoplite phalanx to advance to. This accompaniment reduced the possibility of an opening in the formation of the blockage; the aulete had a fundamental role in insuring the integrity of the phalanx. In this particular scene, the phalanx approaching from the left is unprepared and momentarily outnumbered four to five. More soldiers can be seen running up to assist them from behind. Even though the front four are lacking a fifth soldier, they have the advantage because the aulete is there to bring the formation back together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulos

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hmmph...back at that 'haka' page...brb...

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wiki's haka

the peruperu was performed before a battle in order to invoke the god of war and to discourage and frighten the enemy. It involved fierce facial expressions and grimaces, poking out of the tongue, eye bulging, grunts and cries, and the waving of weapons. If the haka was not performed in total unison, this was regarded as a bad omen for the battle.

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hmmph...Michael Jordan is famous for sticking his tongue out whenever he went up for a basket...in Egyptian iconography a lion is depicted with it's tongue out...Mesoamerican icons often show a figure with tongue out...brb...

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In Kali temples, the tongue is smeared with the blood of sacrificed animals — a reminder that Mother Nature is — 'red in tooth and claw', giving life as well as taking life. We may domesticate her, transform her into the demure Gauri, clothed and coy, but she will always stick out her tongue and slurp on our blood.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Kali-and-her-tongue/articleshow/10816142.cms

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hmmph...bit much!...brb...

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Tlaltecuhtli was commonly depicted by the Aztecs with his/her tongue out as a sign of his/her thirst for human blood - the archetypal Mexica deity that could both nourish life and take it away - and of course many now believe that it is Tlaltecuhtli’s face that is shown in the centre of the Sunstone. What comes from the deity’s mouth, in the great stone monolith discovered only recently in central Mexico City (and now on display in the Templo Mayor Museum - photo above), is more than just a tongue - it is a steady flow of blood, ‘a powerful visual representation of Tlaltecuhtli’s devouring role, and a symbol of the divine link between human sacrifice and providing sustenance [food] to the Aztecs’ gods.’ Learn more from the link below...

http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/ask-us/tongue-hanging-out-in-aztec-art

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there are forums that obsess on this one...woops...Mariners home run...Angels 6 Mariners 2...4th home run this season off Ohtani...96 pitches...3-0...he's gassed...walk...and that will be it...to that point a 4 hit shut out...Alverez coming in...

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I've been long fascinated with the possibility that cultural interchange took place between the indigenous peoples of the New World and the Old. Recently wartching a documentary on the Aztec Sun Stone with the god Tonatiuh sticking its tongue out reminded me of Kali.

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,306442,306442

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double play after walk...ground out to 3rd...Kinsler up top of 8...e6....

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The Gorgon, a single monster for Homer, but three daughters of the sea god Phorcys and his sister Ceto, were shown with wings and goofy-looking or grotesque grinning faces with tongues sticking out. Of the three, Stheno (the Mighty), Euryale (the Far Springer), and Medusa (the Queen), only Medusa was mortal. In this Gorgon, the hair is wild and possibly serpentine. Sometimes snakes are wrapped around her waist.

https://www.thoughtco.com/pictures-of-medusa-4122982

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Trout single...three games nine hits!...

oh...I diverted from the diversion...with the thought that a dithyramb is a drone...by the double flutes...(some replicative archaeology of these flutes on the web...the Greek lyres too...I did that ink of Sappho on a vase with the lyre...didn't understand that the hand behind the lyre plucked the strings too...or what all the things on the lyre were for...for sometime more on this!)...and thinking of the dithyramb drone, Rhianna's song Stay came on the radio...it just has a simple piano  'droning' while she sings...cool song...ethnic dancers often just set up a drone with instruments...flutes drums, conches, rattles, cistrums, etc. and go on for hours and hours...lots of foot stomping...and a kind of monotony...and these old dances have gotten refined, until one has like the whirling dervishes...watching one of their youtube dances I took note of their hand gestures, one being one hand up to the sky, one down to the earth...been there seen that!...Pakal...and Buddha's mudra...Rivera drives in two with a hit...gets back those two runs...and flamenco...to the bottom of the ninth...one gone...

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It is danced largely in a proud and upright way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamenco

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Pedroza pitching...walk...one out two on...'command is way off'...two walks, 3-1...walk...bases loaded back to back to back...Ramariz come in and pitches one pitch...double play..."now a one game lead in the AL west!"

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from the wiki

Flamenco has become popular all over the world and is taught in many non-Hispanic countries, especially the United States and Japan. In Japan, there are more flamenco academies than there are in Spain.

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:)

DavidDavid

OTI:notes:5/5/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: bottom of the fifth coming up....1-0 Angels...listened to game while doing errands...got some new batteries...hmmph...movieRaidersOfTheLostArc had it that Nazi archaeologist in the interwar years were scouring the globe for artifacts...purpose being to prove their idea they were the master race...something to do with being 'aryans'...browsing the ancient mystery sites, I find this is still going on, and sometimes I get deceived into appreciating a site, when it is trying to push a racist agenda...the Mormons have it that a lost tribe of Israel or two made it to the New World, and that's the connection to Joseph Smith and his golden tablets...BYU has some high tech scanning gear that has been used to read the Dead Sea Scrolls, the burned scrolls at Pompeii and Herculaneum, and some Mayan reliefs...brb..."that is a three run homer by Marti"..."Marti gets the parti" started...lol...cinco de Mayo today...

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PROVO — For almost 60 years, researchers from a now BYU-run organization have scoured Mesoamerica for remnants of ancient civilizations and — as they have many times before — discovered another important artifact.
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"The style … is clearly Olmec and we think that the community who lived in Ojo de Agua was Olmec or related to them based on the material found, the style of the sculptures found and the time frame," Murrieta said.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700112207/BYUs-long-running-archaeology-program-helps-uncover-ancient-sculpture-in-Mexico.html

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Mormons seem a kinder lot than the Nazis, but then, they cast a curse on Illinois!

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"The prophets" referred to Joseph and Hyrum Smith, who were killed in 1844 by a mob while in jail in Carthage, Illinois. "This nation" referred to the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_vengeance

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hmmph...apparently this particular "fatwa" was lifted in the 1930s...the neo-Nazi site I happened on had some youtubes, one with clips of Middle Eastern dancing...a kind of line dancing...those in line doing flamenco like feet stomping, all holding hands, and the leader is waving about a scarf, doing the lion share of footwork...looks to be a snake dance...brb...lol...search brings up belly dancing and such...try again...brb...Angels have a 4-2 lead...

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Anytime the weather would change, the mud would crack and members of their family or community would come and help patch it by forming a line and joining hands and stomping the mud into place. In colder months, they would sing to help keep their bodies warm.

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_dance#Dabke}

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Dabke, the dance is called...there's a whole bunch of Middle Eastern dances...some of those dances will have movements that go back to Noah...scarf can be a stick, or sword too, I guess...I thought it a snake's tongue!...brb...got diverted looking at Eagle Dances...dances for sometime!...thoughts out there that the Olmecs came from China, or Africa, or maybe Vikings...and...it's noted it's kind of sad that the Olmecs can't be left alone to be from the Olmecs!...there's a whole cottage youtube industry in India hooking up India with Mesoamerica...Olmec figurines display a bunch of yoga poses...and Japan is linked to Ecuador...

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Ceramic phase A of the Valdivia was long thought to be the oldest pottery produced by a coastal culture in South America, dated to 3000-2700 BC. In the 1960s, a team of researchers proposed there were significant similarities between the archeological remains and pottery styles of Valdivia and those of the ancient Jōmon culture, active in this same period on the island of Kyūshū, Japan).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdivia_culture

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everyone's fond of this little 'alien'...from Jomon culture...



check my notes...brb...



that isn't what you might think, if you have seen one of these in South West souvenir shops...

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This Colima figurine depicting a woman covered with children is a very rare piece; only a handful is currently known to exist from prehistoric Mesoamerica. This type of figurine can have as many as 87 small children. Typically three larger children sit around a bowl in the mother-figure’s lap. This is the only example where the bowl is filled with food, the others are empty. A large figure typically straddles the shoulders and holds onto the head.  Single figures perch on each arm, shoulder and breast, and one clings to the back.  All eleven smaller figures wear loincloths and turban-like headdresses. The assemblage appears to represent motherhood, nurturing and sustenance. 

Today, pueblo potters in the American Southwest make a similar type of figure called a “storyteller,” a man or woman covered with children and often telling a story. While it is surprising given the similarities in form, there appears to be no connection with these past Mesoamerican art forms. The first Puebloan storyteller was made by Helen Cordero of Cochiti Pueblo in 1963. The first “storyteller” was a ceramic representation of her grandfather, who was the storyteller for Cochiti and who passed down the oral histories of the people. The “storyteller” figures have spread to modern potters in almost all of the Pueblos today and are a highly respected and prized art form.

http://arizonamuseumofnaturalhistory.org/explore-the-museum/exhibitions/cultures-of-the-ancient-americas/Mesoamerica

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that, I'd say, is a very good example of 'convergent'...hmmph...'and now it is a 4-3 Angels lead'...'and it's gone'...Seattle 5-4 lead...homerun Sanino...oh, floodgates have opened...but wait...a review...play at home...safe...6-4...on a wp...two out Trout up...down two strikes...a double!...'Upton up...that one is gone...outa here!'...Upton all the way up!...lol...Pujols up...k...6-6...

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Ancient Maya dance is often characterized by transformations of human beings into supernatural (god like) beings by means of visionary trance. Some think that hallucinogenic drugs or medicines were used to put the performer into an altered state of mind. Once in this state of mind the participants were transformed into their wayob or soul companions. These soul companions were depicted through the masks and the costumes people wore in the dance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_dance

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same wiki

One Spanish explorer describes a performance he watched as eight hundred heavy warriors danced in a giant stadium. Not one of the warriors were off beat as they danced all day with food and drink brought to them as they danced. Diego Garcia de Palacio compared a courtyard enclosed by stairways in Copan to the Colosseum in Rome.

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I had wondered if the Mayans had outdoor theaters, seeing how so theatrical their costumes are...brb...

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Located near the North Acropolis, the theater was enclosed by buildings dating to 250-550 B.C. on all sides. A 26-foot-long façade of one of these buildings was torn down around 850 A.D. to create the forum and make it work as an acoustic shell.

According to Martos López, the unusual architecture makes the theater stand out.
"It's different from all the other theaters that have already been studied. These theaters were usually located in plazas and were built to entertain the crowds," Martos López said.

https://www.livescience.com/22986-mayan-theater.html

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Mayans just seemed to have no sense of 'make believe'...prisoners, slaves, orphans, at times most anyone it seems, filled in for the sacrifice scenes!...

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“Elizabeth Artemis Mourat, performer and dance scholar has categorized these dances into six types: religious dances, non-religious dances, banquet dances, harem dances, combat dances and street dances.” (Ancient Egypt,1) Irena Lexova mentioned that at the end of the fourth century BC there were acrobatic dances and pair dances. Men and women were seen dancing with clappers (wooden castanets). She also added that dancers of that era used a short curved stick or cane while dancing which is a prop still used by modern Egyptian dancers.

(my emphasis!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_in_ancient_Egypt

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curiously, the upper class, royalty, didn't dance, while with the Maya they did...and thought to do to impose their will...

lol...if the game hadn't gone extra innings, I might not have gotten that one!...

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This text contains what has been interpreted as staging instructions concerning the actors for a grandiose play where a great number of performers including supernumeraries, props such as statues, and backdrops were used. Symbolic dances which may have been holy rituals and ballet scenes formed part of the performance.
    According to accounts Seth, represented by a live hippopotamus, was killed on stage by a priest or even by the king himself in the role of Horus. The final annihilation of Seth occurred when a hippopotamus cake was carved up and eaten.

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/ceremonies/theatre.htm

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Young up...two out...Cozart on second...top of ten...dink hit!!...Cozart scores...Young had been 0-19!...7-6 Angels...Graderal a hit...Kinsler up...out at 1st...lucky inning!...managing a hippo on stage seems a bit much!...have the thought that animal sacrifice was how ancient priesthoods got fed, and the whole thing a sham to fund their life style...not much different today...Politics having taken up the human sacrifice...Hollywood, for all it's faults, is make believe...Seattle pinch hit single...'cept in the tales of actors and actress who burn out on drugs and such...actors who die young often have that aura about them of having been sacrificed...well, anyone who dies young in pursuit of something admirable...brb...Gamel scores on wild throw by Marti...'unforced error'...Graderal catching...throw 'm out at second...review...out...two out...bases clear...then there's the villagers with the torches...k...top of eleven...criminals another source of fodder...the popularity of public execution is notorious...and Hollywood's priesthoods' bread and butter...violence...toned down now, a miscue in a sporting event warrants booos...being benched...sent to the minors...time was though...the whole losing side in an Aztec ball game ended up on the skull racks...they called their wars, Flower Wars...Trout walks...fifth time on base tonight...Upton up...brb...

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Texcocan nobleman Ixtlilxochitl gives the "fullest early statement concerning the origin as well as the initial rationale" of the flower war.^[4] From 1450 to 1454, the Aztecs had suffered from crop failure and severe drought; this led to famine and many deaths in the central Mexican highlands.^[4] Ixtlilxochitl reports that the flower war began "as a response" to the famine: "the priests . . . of Mexico [Tenochtitlan] said that the gods were angry at the empire, and that to placate them it was necessary to sacrifice many men, and that this had to be done regularly."^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_war

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back to back walks...Pujols up...dp...Simmons dink infield hit...not in time to first...Trout scores!...8-7 Angels...

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Imagine for a moment a scheme in which American taxpayers were taken to the cleaners to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and there was barely a hint of criticism or outrage. Imagine as well that the White House and a majority of the politicians in Washington, no matter the party, acquiesced in the arrangement. In fact, the the annual quest to boost Pentagon spending into the stratosphere regularly follows that very scenario, assisted by predictions of imminent doom from industry-funded hawks with a vested interest in increased military outlays.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-military-industrial-complex-is-on-corporate-welfare/

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It's not hard to imagine at all...the thought that every time there is an economic downturn, a 'drought', wars start up...the interwar depression leading to WW2 often cited...nowadays the priests wear funny hats...nowadays it's just war...lead off walk...a double...8-8...runner at second...have had a bad feeling all along!...rather than flower war...and the dismal thought is that war, flowery or otherwise, is an integral part of any cultures economy, old or new...walkoff single..."Mariners come away with a 9-8 victory"...good game...you can all come back tomorrow...Ohtani to pitch!

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Maya polities engaged in violent warfare for political control of people and resources. Some scholars have suggested that the capture of sacrificial victims was a driving force behind warfare.^[1] Among the most critical resources were water and agricultural land. Economic control of resources such as obsidian also increased competition among polities.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_warfare

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:(

DavidDavid

OTI:two pics, notes:5/4/18

 

Open to Interpretation

 

 

Notes: eleventh in series...see previous...It was poncho giveaway night at the stadium last night...and a record set for most poncho wearers at any one time...blurry pics don't do the moment justice...most time the crowd is 'decorated' in red Angels' regalia...my red hat with Ohtani pin and such...but the announcer requested everyone to put on their ponchos, which are really cool...though very thin and most for looks...and when they did, out in the right field seats, it was very pretty...and then in the later innings, Pujols came up twice with the chance to reach 3,000 hits...much drama, and everyone standing in their ponchos...lots of fouls, oohhs ahhhs, then hit by pitch, booos...more fouls, then fly out to right...ahhh...maybe tonight in Seattle he'll get 3,000...game on...Kinsler k, top of 1st...I was watching Sia in the Late Nite Karaoke, this on youtube. this where the late nite host rides about with a famous singer and they sing to the car radio...cool duets...and Sia said she believes in Aliens...this as a Canadian official said as much...brb...Pujols up...line out...

 

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In an interview with RT (formerly Russia Today) in 2014, characterised by Yahoo News as "sadly hard to take seriously", Hellyer said that at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years, with most of them coming from other star systems, although there are some living on Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon. According to him, they "don't think we are good stewards of our planet."^[

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer

 

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Sia said he said 'five alien races' US government is in contact with...does Sia always wear something over her face?...brb...just that once...curious, as the ancient Greek players wore masks...Angels won last night...12-2 over the Orioles...haven't looked at B'mor news in a bit...brb...hmmph...Ohtani...k...I got pulled over coming home from the game last night...lights not on, or so was the excuse...'have anything to drink?' nope 'where are you coming from?' Anaheim stadium...and so through the open window I'm looking at a pen's button, back and forth...'remember your lights'...and that was that...bit miffed...I drive slow, and that was what likely aroused suspicion...police, security people, have no manners...introduce yourself, state your purpose, thank you and good day might go a long way...I always forget something metal in my pockets try as I might going through stadium security, and one of them and I always looking cross eyed back and forth...far cry here in Town from Baltimore...I found the self similarity of the Ponce Monolith and the Tula Warriors, specifically the headdress...this site goes on about Atlantis, the Lost Continent, being 'in' South America...apparently there are ruins and a lake and a Volcanic cone that meet all the criteria Plato lays out...thought is that Atlantis is South America, and the City was in the Altiplano...the local of Lake Titicaca, and Tiwanaku, and the Ponce Monolith...Trout two out double...www.atlantisbolivia.org...brb...

 

 

http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/artefacts.htm

 

the authors have collected like I have!...last one is the Ponce...some more they have have exactly same as my grabs...but they found one I wish I had...brb...

 

  

 

that's really cool...gives thought that the strange animal head Egyptian figures were dance costumes...authors list a whole bunch of things from around the world...self similarities...my radio reception has gone south...and I need a snack...a foray in order...brb...bk...seafood soup, iced tea...saw Pujols gets his 3,000th on a big screen...Ohtani a dbl...now bottom of eighth...and radio reception gone...hmmph...'replicative archaeology'...kinda like my backyard Inca wall thought...some fellows built a 'pendulum saw'...idea being to replicate whatever made the saw cut marks in the Lion Gate At Mcyenae...I didn't know it had saw cuts...brb...

 

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Distinctive, curved cuts have been found in the hard stone conglomerate at Mycenaean palaces, and scholars have surmised that they were made with some kind of swinging blade,

 

https://www.archaeology.org/news/6588-180502-bronze-age-saw

 

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and they've found rhinocerous bones with butchering marks that are 700,000 year old in Philippines...brb...top of 9 Angels 3 Mariners 0...I can get scores from mlb site...radio battery gone...

 

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LUZON, PHILIPPINES—Science Magazine reports that a team of scientists led by Thomas Ingicco of the National Museum of Natural History in Paris and M. Clyde Shago of the National Museum of the Philippines has found butchered rhino bones and stone tools at Kalinga, an archaeological site on the island of Luzon. The enamel of one of the animal’s teeth was dated to about 709,000 years old,

 

https://www.archaeology.org/news/6590-180503-philippines-hominin-occupation

 

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maybe the Philippines were Atlantis...thing about that report is that to get to Luzon one has to cross deep ocean...brb....

 

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After a comprehensive research, the author discloses a new theory hypothesizes that the lost island and city of Atlantis is located in Java Sea, Indonesia

 

http://atlan.org/evidences-of-indonesian-atlantis-location/

 

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there's another one...brb...

 

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Kumari Kandam (Tamil: குமரிக்கண்டம்) refers to a mythical^[1] lost continent with an ancient Tamil civilization, located south of present-day India, in the Indian Ocean.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumari_Kandam

 

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heard it said, the Japanese and the Tamil are the last two classical Civilizations...Angels top of 9 two more runs...

 

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English historian and broadcaster Michael Wood called the Tamils the last surviving classical civilisation on Earth, because the Tamil mainstream preserved substantial elements of their past regarding belief, culture, music and literature despite the modern globalised world.^[

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamils

 

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One proponent of this view is explorer and researcher Graham Hancock who in his book titled Underworld writes: “It was the submerged structures of Japan that first awakened me to the possibility that an underworld in history, unrecognized by archaeologists, could lie concealed and forgotten beneath the sea” (Hancock 2002).
Hancock draws parallels between Yonaguni and other ruins found beneath the waters of Lake Titicaca and in Dwarka, off the coast of India, which offer further evidence for the existence of a vast underwater world containing structures stretching back to the dimmest chapters of human antiquity.

 

http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-oceania/mysterious-10000-year-old-underwater-ruins-japan-00817

 

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The Jomon is often compared to pre-Columbian cultures of Pacific Northwest North America because in both regions cultural complexity developed within a primarily hunting-gathering context.  Although their society was considered ‘primitive’ by the standards of later times, they were the first culture on Earth to develop pottery, according to mainstream theorists.

 

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Angels 5 Mariners 0. Final...I have a theory too...more tomorrow morrow!

 

:)

 

DavidDavid

 

 

 

 

 



OTI:one poem, notes:5/2/18

Open To Interpretation

Go Figure

More than coincidence?
See faces in the clouds?
Hawk over the chaparral covered hill top,
Hovering.

DolphinWords


Notes: 10th in a series...see previous...was napping...woke up to game in progress...someone hit a monster home run...524 feet...don't know who...Angels 2 Orioles 1 top of fourth...Pujols has a homer...maybe him!...the Ponce Monolith looks a bit like a Tula Warrior...brb...Pujols long fly out...Ohtani on, on  a ground ball error...Ohtani slides in safely!...Simmons with a triple with the throw to plate getting loose...hmmph...the Ponce Monolith is a statue at Lake Titicaca, and it looks like the Tula Warriors...I think...brb...Cozart rbi ground out...pinterest is messing up the searches!...hmmph...Calhoun long fly out...

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Cult archaeology: richly attired warrior figure over 3.5 m. high with rectangular earpieces, pectoral representing an upside-down bird,

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/a/anthro1ic/x-16795/16795?lasttype=boolean;lastview=thumbnail;resnum=170;size=20;sort=politicallocation;start=161;subview=detail;view=entry;rgn1=imagecategories;q1=Art%3A+Architectural+elements

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there the butterfly breastplate is called an upside down bird...a dogear...I was up all last night doing searches...many of them to nail down that breastplate!...no luck...oh...Trout hit the home run...some skepticism that it was really that long...well, I don't get it...search: tiwanaku monolith tula warriors isn't working...brb...Upton three run home run...Angels 7 Orioles 1...'breathing room'...Pujols a hustle double...

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"It is with immense joy that we are able to receive our monolith our Jach'a Pacha [huge deity]," said Mayor Tito Flores to the crowd of hundreds who had escorted the ancient statue on its spiritual 100km-journey home. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1878905.stm

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Ohtani 'rookie of the month'...BBC page has the story of the Tiwanaku Monolith...called too Bennet or Ponce Monolith...there's a couple more like it...much eroded...it was stolen away to stand in a Bolivian city, and then returned to Tiwanaku...the weather was in sympathy with the move, and wept/rained...

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same site

There was a terrible storm on 3 July 1932, the day that Bennett, a 1,700-year-old, seven-metre high monolith was taken from its place of origin on the Bolivian Altiplano to the city of La Paz.

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brb...

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“It was night when Tlaloc arrived in Mexico City; yet 25,000 people awaited him in the Zócalo. The city was prepared as if for a fiesta; lights were on everywhere, traffic was stopped and the streets were thronged. Ironically, the arrival of the rain god was greeted by the heaviest storm ever recorded for this ordinarily dry season ...” (Mexico: The National Museum of Anthropology - Pedro Ramírez Vázquez, 1968).

http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/stories/tlalocs-great-journey

go figure...the Tiwanaku Monolith, the Tlaloc...Maldanado is unleashed...rbi double...3 hits last night, two so far tonight...Monolith, the Tula Warriors, the Assyrian Winged Bulls, the Persepolis reliefs...are all stiff pillars...well, some of them 'are' pillars...but standing stiffly at attention is a pose common to these!...Upton sac fly...another rbi...and government officials...re presidents of France and America with their wives standing for photogs...one with hat!...Carlos Castaneda creeps into the searches for Toltec Warriors...he sorta co opted Mesoamerican anthropology for his wild stories...regarded as a fraud by many...I read the first three books...much fun...even wrote a fan letter and got a response...something to the extent that the Spanish encountered a culture they couldn't fathom (I'd said the Mesoamericans seemed like the Mindanao deep!)...and further reading of Castaneda I couldn't fathom, too 'cult' like...and left off...not much into cults...but then, all these ancient cultures are cult like, and to 'fathom' them, the only way is to join in them, maybe...the story line in movieMedicineMan...hmmph...I can't even get Tula and Tiwanaku side by side in the searches...there's some question as to just what Persepolis was...brb...

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The function of Persepolis remains rather unclear. It was not one of the largest cities in Persia, let alone the rest of the empire, but appears to have been a grand ceremonial complex, that was only occupied seasonally; it is still not entirely clear where the king's private quarters actually were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis

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In late 2003 a tunnel beneath the Temple of the Feathered Serpent was accidentally discovered by Sergio Gómez Chávez and Julie Gazzola, archaeologists of the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH). After days of heavy rainstorm Gómez Chávez noticed that a nearly three-foot-wide sinkhole occurred near the foot of the temple pyramid.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teotihuacan

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more rain...:)...the reach I'm reaching for here is that these ruins were all alike in being religious administration centers...part of last nights browse was youtube clip of Michael Coe going on about similarities between the Khmer and Angkor Wat and the Maya and their ceremonial temples...oh...too much to squeeze into a post!...at Persepolis, that Iranian youtube restoration clip explained, the rooms of the Palace were reserved for specific people...the most private of course for the godKing...the outer one for visiting dignitaries...Persepolis has this relief wall showing the people the Persian ruled over all bring gifts in their different costumes...Tiwanaku has the famous wall with all the different heads, each thought to represent a different race...Tiahuanacu embraced different peoples, somewhat like the Romans...they permitted different religions...it's said the Incas did this too...and the Khmir...said the Incas managed this with roads and food...Romans did that...the Ladir scans are showing the extent of the Khmir umpire...causeways and roads and food...there are a lot of overlaps!...a curio the irrigation of the Maya, Aztecs, Amazonians, Inca, Khmir...there are artificial lakes at, and a 'moat' around...and now Maldanado hits a home run!...much shade and doubt is cast on hitters when they are in slumps by the journalists...shout out to Scioscia for being patient with his...Angkor Wat...it's not a 'moat'...it's a water lily pond...water lilies are a food source too...the moat must have been gorgeous filled with water lilies around the temples...thought the temples may be stylized water lilies, but seems they are a stylized mountain...a temple motif imported from India...the blind black dog...brb...

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The modern Xoloitzcuintle appears to be a result of a mixture of the aboriginal, pre-Columbian Xoloitzcuintle, itself a descendant of a domesticated dog that came with the ancestors of indigenous Americans from Asia, with one or more southern European herding dog breeds during the Columbian Exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Hairless_Dog

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dogs are thought to escort one through the underworlds...what is the Columbian Exchange?...brb...

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Before the Columbian Exchange, there were no oranges in Florida, no bananas in Ecuador, no paprika in Hungary, no potatoes in Ireland, no coffee in Colombia, no pineapples in Hawaii, no rubber trees in Africa, no chili peppers in Thailand, no tomatoes in Italy, and no chocolate in Switzerland.

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could be a song!...Inca dogs...brb...oh...the Orioles are rallying...tying run in the on deck circle...

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The xoloitzcuintlis is considered to be one of the purest dog breeds in existence today. The word xotol, in Nahuatl means “god of the ball game.” Xoloitzcuintlis statues have been excavated at ancient burial sites on numerous occasions.

http://mayaincaaztec.com/mainazdo.html

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no rubber balls for fido...

two out...two strikes...10-7 Angels...under and making the grab, Cal Calhoun!...a loose game...a loose post!

:)

DavidDavid

OTI:notes:5/1/18

Open To Interpretation

“If that double-bolted land, Japan, is ever to become hospitable, it is the whaleship alone to whom the credit will be due, for already she is on the threshold.” -- Herman Melville Moby Dick



Notes: 9th post in a series...see previous...game about to get underway...Angels and Orioles...don't know if but an ethnobioligist might have an interest in sports' animal mascot names!...brb...

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Through much of the history of ethnobiology, its practitioners were primarily from dominant cultures, and the benefit of their work often accrued to the dominant culture, with little control or benefit invested in the indigenous peoples whose practice and knowledge they recorded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnobiology

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early on when Europeans came to the New World they were like the invading aliens, the bad ones, in the movies...now, a few centuries on, they are like looking at the ancient New World culture as 'aliens' to figure it out!...it's a bit like two alien cultures collided...Bergamini says that in the epigraph to his book, Japan's Imperial Conspiracy...a 'clash of cultures' between America and Japan...brb...

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Bergamini describes the Institute as a secret indoctrination center (protected by extensive security measures) for select younger sons, of politicians, Japanese nobility and militarist supporters, who desired to participate in fulfilling the dreams of Imperial conquest harbored among elements of Japan's aristocracy. The first draft of Japanese conquest plans for world domination were traced by Bergamini to the Institute.
According to Bergamini's theory, graduates of this ultrasecret 'political' think tank, recruited only by special invitation from rightwing circles, continued its 'political' and 'military' practice in the occupation zones in Manchuria. From this 'school' began the political and strategic debate between the Strike North Group (the Army group, pro-war against Soviet Siberia) and the Strike South Group (the Navy group concerned with the Chinese lands and especially Southeast Asia).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%27s_Imperial_Conspiracy

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3up3down...Angels coming up...when I was studying the Panay Incident, I went through the indexes of books looking for Panay, and if Panay was there I brought it home...this about the time the web was starting up, and there I would do the same, on ebay of all places!...I have a small collection from ebay of Panay things...Bergamini's was a big book...and I caught errors in it in my Panay blog...but...he has a sentimental and romantic way of phrasing things...one American general had it that America was fighting a medieval society bound with senses of honor like Knights of the Round Table...to Japan, America was the 'bad aliens'...now, having savaged one another, we get along fine!...though still mystified by our respective alienness!...no score, top of second...if someone had asked me if I wanted to be an 'ethnobiolgist' in school, after asking what is that?, I would have said, 'sure'...hmmph...Tropiano pitching...'exobioligist' related?...brb...

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The goal of NASA’s Exobiology and Evolutionary Biology program is to understand the origin, evolution, distribution, and future of life in the Universe.

https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/research/astrobiology-at-nasa/exobiology/

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good luck with that!...Ohtani at DH...well, there, I got to use one of my new words, 'epigraph'...took note of the Mayan epigraphists...headed to bottom of second, no score...an epigraph is like the little quotes authors put at the beginning, or chapter heads...they often allude to or are a quote from something...kind of like a sonnet's envoy...and an epigraphist studies the allusion of icons and such...I think...brb...Pujols up...

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A person using the methods of epigraphy is called an epigrapher or epigraphist. For example, the Behistun inscription is an official document of the Achaemenid Empire engraved on native rock at a location in Iran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigraphy

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Ohtani ground out to short...two out...the Achaemenid empire ended when Alexander and his girl burned down Persepolis...revenge for Persians burning down the Parthenon...I just watched a restoration clip of the Persepolis on youtube made by the Iranians...it doesn't mention Persia's invasion of Greece...brb...

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It is believed that the fire which destroyed Persepolis started from Hadish Palace, which was the living quarters of Xerxes I, and spread to the rest of the city.^[11] It is not clear if the fire was an accident or a deliberate act of revenge for the burning of the Acropolis of Athens during the second Persian invasion of Greece. Many historians argue that, while Alexander's army celebrated with a symposium, they decided to take revenge against the Persians.^[12] In that case, it would be a combination of the two.^{[clarification needed]}
The Book of Arda Wiraz, a Zoroastrian work composed in the 3rd or 4th century, describes Persepolis' archives as containing "all the Avesta and Zend, written upon prepared cow-skins, and with gold ink", which were destroyed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis

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hmmph...ironic that later on the Islamic empire would preserve much of ancient Greek literature...brb...

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Though these works were originally written in Greek, for centuries the language of scholarship in the Mediterranean region, many were translated into Syriac, Arabic, and Persian during the Middle Ages and the original Greek versions were often lost. As the Arab caliphates absorbed Greek/Roman knowledge, the medieval Islamic world gradually became the dominant intellectual center in the Mediterranean region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_of_the_Greek_Classics

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oh, Maldanado did the impossible...got a hit...had been 0-for34!...two men on...Kinsler up...epigraph reminds me of epigram, and just a bit back I did some of those...brb...

"a short poem, especially a satirical one, having a witty or ingenious ending."

and there is an ancient Greek anthology of poems...brb...

"A major source for Greek literary epigram is the Greek Anthology,"

...Kinsler made out...runners moved up...Trout intentionally walked...Upton up!...Justin Upton has an alliterative name!...Panick for the Giants another!...poets are like flowers...I mean, after you become familiar with them, get a sense of them, you can recognize a poem by them without seeing their name...its 'scent'...or when they are being mimicked...see Kipling, then Eliot's Prufrock!...anyway, the Greek Anthology starts out with a poem that relates all the poets in the anthologies to flowers...an epigrammatic list for epigraphic ethnobotanists!...ground out to pitcher...to the top of 3rd...brb...

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In his preface to his collection, Meleager describes his arrangement of poems as if it were a head-band or garland of flowers woven together in a tour de force that made the word "Anthology" a synonym for a collection of literary works for future generations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Anthology

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now, where the Egyptians fixated on dung beetles, the Mayans go on about Water Lilies...both epigrammatically alluding to the movement of the sun...Sun worship...and, it's true, as with Coe's mention of astronomy, the Mayans were way more sophisticated than the Egyptians!...their iconography of the water lily is really elaborate...brb...

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The water lily is pictured so often in Mayan art that it is clearly one of the top two or three most frequently rendered flowers during the Classic period of Peten.
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This web page is not the place to question what part was eaten, smoked, ingested, or administered in an enema...

https://www.maya-archaeology.org/pre-Columbian_Mesoamerican_Mayan_ethnobotany_Mayan_iconography_archaeology_anthropology_research/book_sacred_water_lily_flowers_root_pad_nymphaea_alba_food_smoke_chemicals.php


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Ohtani double!!!...author of quote wants to focus on the Mayan water lilies as a food!...and avoid the rest...echoing my own desire!...studying ancient cultures can be like an anatomy class...too much information!...the curious are welcome to google the 'water lily jaguar'...I was reading a journal's technical article about the Mayans and their water lilies, really good, and in the ink drawings was one of the Water Lily Jaguar, and my eyes opened, 'that's really good!"...heck...runner left, they've stranded four...top of five...and I thought really obscure, like the article, but it's all over google images, with modern interpretations...brb...

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The water lily was often portrayed in an iconographic context in the art of the classic Mayan period. One may interpret these appearances of the water lily in a variety of ways. In essence, there are three motifs: Water lilies sprouting from the backs of crocodiles, powerful jaws grazing the surface while swimming in the water; the head of the “earth monster,” around which water lilies are entwined; and jaguars (the animal symbol of the shaman), either wearing the stalks and buds of water lilies as head ornaments, or dancing with water lilies. The association between the water lily and the jaguar is especially common during the Mayan period (Rands 1953).

http://entheology.com/plants/white-lily-nymphaea-ampla/

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oh, it's a marvel one has to explore for themselves, the Mayan's water lilies, the Egyptian's lilies and lotuses, India's, just all over the world...

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A very famous glyph from the classic Mayan period depicts a jaguar, apparently inebriated, swimming in a lake alongside Mayan symbolic text which reads: “Water Lily – Jaguar – His Naugal – Seibel – Alau”; loosely translated this means “The lord of the city of Seibel has the water lily as his nagual.” “Naugal” in Mayan refers to a shaman’s animal transformation, “alau” means lord and “uay” means magic and transformation (Coe 1973).

same as previous
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This is the link to the article I read...all of it!...though vocabularily lost at times!  It's a pdf...

https://www.utrgv.edu/biology/_files/documents/publications/amcd5.pdf

on the ends of the bar petrograph...oh...Kinsler a double...Trout up...are the three 'fingers'...a thought is they might represent the profile of water lilies...three petals...thought too that the Tula Warriors' headdress 'feathers' are water lily petals...and, a thought that the feathered serpent feathers are water lily petals...that those authors' thought!...feathers/petals...a 'confluence'...the ethnobiolgists have the lore!...don't know what happened...Angels didn't score...more sometime about the Water Lily Serpent and the Water Lily Monster...bottom of six...no score...I wanted to see if the Incas had somewhere someplace places like Tula, Chichen Itza, and Persepolis...and they did...brb...oh!...Simmons hits a double...and Orioles outfield misplays the ball to the infield, and ball goes in stands...awarded home for Simmons!...a run for the Angels...Ohtani had grounded out...brb...hungry...need to get a snack before everything closes!...bk...hooey!...again the Angels lose their lead in the top of 9th...just like the Yankee game I went too...2-2 and runner on second, one out...more alien collisions: the Japanese sealed themselves off from the Europeans, and then Commodore Perry arrived with his Black Ships...on to bottom of 9th...brb...

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The Black Ships (in Japanese: 黒船, kurofune, Edo-period term) was the name given to Western vessels arriving in Japan in the 16th and 19th centuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Ships

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The Japanese wanted to copy the technology of the Black Ships...sent artists aboard them to copy everything...and then when they made their own ships, put patches in the sails...they had copied the patches on the American ships', not knowing what they were!...

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same wiki

The sight of the four ships entering Edo Bay, roaring black smoke into the air and capable of moving under their own power, deeply frightened the Japanese.

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Awoken from sleep
of a peaceful quiet world
by Jokisen tea;
with only four cups of it
one can't sleep even at night.

There is an alternative translation, based on the pivot words. Taihei can refer to the "Pacific Ocean" (太平); jōkisen also means "steam-powered ships" (蒸気船); and shihai also means "four vessels". The poem, therefore, has a hidden meaning:

The steam-powered ships
break the halcyon slumber
of the Pacific;
a mere four boats are enough
to make us lose sleep at night.

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walk Trout for the fourth time?...back to back hits, runners on 1st and 2nd...Trout already was walked three times because of runners on!...full count...he wont see a strike...ball four...loaded bases...Upton, 0-4, up...a walk off game winner!...a halo over this one!...lol...

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As happens in secluded societies everywhere, moreover, there existed a subculture of fabulous stories about peoples inhabiting far-away places.
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On the Japanese side, there was no comparable official visual record of these encounters, although we know from accounts of the time that boatloads of Japanese artists and illustrators rushed out to draw the “black ships” from virtually the moment they appeared off Uraga.
a must see site!

https://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/21f/21f.027/black_ships_and_samurai/bss_essay01.html

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where was I...oh!...the Inca palace that was like Persepolis, Tula, Chichen Itza...for tomorrow morrow!

:)

DavidDavid