Gem:OTI::pics,notes:::1/4/21

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#stradaeasel four

Gem

DolphinWords 

Notes:   out and back...a short way...first to Starbucks, Euclid and Garden Grove Blvd....then to find a place to park and sketch and snack-two chocolate croisants, hot grande mocha...was looking for an intersection  with the traffic lights frame in Old Town, and noted parking across from the old Gem Theater...first place I saw a big screen movie, big as they were then anyway...and first movie was High Noon...forget what the second bill was...Grandma Olsen was tasked with taking me...I saw many of the Ffties' movies here...looks different now...for years empty, then refurbished, several times...maybe...brb...put old pic up from Garden Grove Historical Society on pinterest...now, I've gone and made myself a new routine, and kicking myself I didn't do it earlier...when I get take out food, and snack in my Silver, my Jeep, I've been doing so on the driveway at home, where I've been sketching; now I'm thinking to do like I did today, find a view, and intersections, and make a sketch....sometimes I did this in the Valley...I have like my picnic sketch spots there...anyway, I was always drawing when a kid, dinosaurs, battleships, warplanes, and such, the usual!...but if I'd been more 'adult' about it, I'd have a fine collection of Town views through the years by now...hmmph...my grandnephew made a logo for his car detailing business...seeing that reminded me I've been wanting to make some logo/stickers, like the youtube travel vloggers have...they leave them stuck to like bulletin sticker boards, roadsigns, all over the world-to one another's motorcycles too...the surfing community has them also...we all need our own stickers!...anyway, that's that...for today...onward...

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DavidDavid

GreatWave:OTI::pics,notes:::1/3/21

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#stradaeasel three

Aliso

#inktober week one

GreatWave

Notes: out and back to Aliso Beach...on the way, noted intersections...on the way back, the Laguna Tower noted me!...I was stuck in the middle in traffic in the dip, and happened to look to my left, thought. 'woop!', and dropped traffic concerns, found the camera, and took one pic out the window...didn't know what I had until I got home!...at Aliso, I snacked, Jack in the Box BagelEggSausage, and coffee, while I sketched the Palace, took Skimboarder pics...lighting not much different at Sunset as Sunrise...I've got three challenges going now, January Stradaeasel, once a week Inktober, and one of my own, a comic/cartoon everyday...the later I'm hesitant to commit to, it's tough!...I get ideas, and if I don't note them down, I lose them...today, on the way back, I remembered I had one using Hokusai's Great Wave, and I couldn't remember what...what was it?...what was it?...oh, another Noah's Alk one!...lol...and a new favorite...

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DavidDavid

Harbor:OTI::pics,notes:::1/2/21

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#stradaeasel two

Harbor

Notes: out and back to Warner and Harbor...trying to find the scene I saw yesterday...it was the next street up, Segestrom...but all these branch streets hereabout have similar views of Saddleback, framed as I would have them with the traffic lights/sign...considering intersections, I'm a hazard-not paying attention to driving!....anyway, a very short out and back...timed for sunset lighting, but missed...allocating time to do this and that, I am very cavalier about!...spent most of the day browsing art history vlogs on youtube...in my cave it's warm and cozy, not like out here on the porch with no heat...I dunno...winter out and abouts are inclement-cold...there's no where on the Saddleback Streets to park, or sit...did the sketch across from Jack In The Box, where I parked, sitting on a low landscape wall by the bus stop... again-same but different as yesterday...car passing by honked at me while I sketched...???...I dunno... 

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DavidDavid

CoastHwy:OTI::pics,notes:::1/1/21

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#stradaeasel one

Coast Hwy

Notes:   out and back, late, to Superior intersection with Coast Hwy...last time out, 12/30/20, waiting at this light, an 'aha!, moment...I couldn't just park there and draw the sign I was so drawn to!...it's light had come on, so it was glowing green and white against the darkening sunset sky...no camera with...so at home on the driveway, I did the ink sketch, turning the traffic lights and poles into flowers and stems...so, soh, today beginning of stradaeasel month, and I though to go back and somehow begin with the view of this intersection...wondered all the way where I was gonna park...across is Jack in the Box, and a small shopping center, and that's where I parked...this neighborhood is familiar to me!...for a few months, I had a winter rental near 42nd Street, and for another few months I lived with artist friends atop the bluff in a thousand foot industrial shop...and most always when I go to the beach, if going north on Coast Hwy., I take Superior to Coast Hwy...time was this little corner was a wasteland...un-landscaped, with pipes off venting underground natural gas...we'd come down the hill full speed on our bikes, and race going back up-silly for adults, but fun...since, to my surprise, the pipes are gone, and there is a park atop the bluff, and a nearby parking lot...I hadn't noticed!...been there awhile I imagine, and a pole aposted message suggested building a pedestrian over pass...good idea...anyway, I paddled up the stairs to the bluff top, and sketched and took photos..."can I see?" a passerby said...and after seeing, they lamented, "oh, I have a long way to go..."...I dunno, but understand...now, last post I mentioned I had in mind to do a Coast Highway series, 31 days of Coast Road views...I already had this first one, and it's great finding the bluff top park...I can set my easel up thereabout...and park in the lower parking lot for the Park...it has like a soccer field, and a knock down view over the rooftops of the ocean, and Catalina Island, and today San Clement Island too, see pic...I didn't have the point and shoot with wide angle lens feature....now, for years I've thought to do a series of Harbor Blvd. views, actually poems...but couldn't think o a 'frame' for it...and, and the flower intersection lights and poles has solved that...thing to do is find such intersections  that frame a view...thinking on this on the way out, on Harbor near Warner, I happened to look to my left, and there was the sign above the side street, "Harbor Blvd", and in the distance the street ended perfectly with a view of Saddleback...I spent a lot of time two years back in September challenge looking for just that view!...go figure...I can do this light poles framing view trick all over Town!..onward...

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DavidDavid 

MoreCats:OTI::pics,notes:::12/31/20

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'Cats Suggested as The Fifty-three Stations of the Tōkaidō

Kuniyoshi

wikicommons

Notes:

In searching up cat references, I happened on the Cats of Japan...Buddhists brought them from China, and the Japanese went crazy for them...and too the Japanese artists...a tradition in Japan is for artist to do things in series...a Hundred Views of Mt. Fuji, or some such...and they did Cat series...this particular one celebrates the rest stations along a coastal road, the stations each have a distinctive characteristic, and the Cats illustrate this in their activities...sorta like Route 66 tourist maps...it was a tourist thing, maybe religious too...shrines along the route...a pilgrimage?...like St. James' in Spain?...an odd story that...from reading Kipling's Kim, I found such journies on India's roads too...travel, tourism, not a new thing-see Pausanias!...lol...anyway, tomorrow kicks off another Strada Easel challenge month...will try for 31 ways of seeing the Pacific Coast Hwy...on top of that is a twenty day challenge by the Southern California Plein Air Association...lured into getting membership by members I met in September; and Laguna Plein Air Association membership too!...modest fees...beats bowling...

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DavidDavid

Dogleg:OTI::pics,comment,notes:12/30/20

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Dog Leg

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Watch "The Reference Sandwich - A Better Way to Use Reference Photos" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/dfk9BlggPkI

Twisted Cat
Too, I was working up a post to my blog about "reference"...I can draw from reference, amateur I am, but find it very hard from imagination...now, thinking on this just this morning waiting in traffic, I was "air drawing" the car grill fronts across the intersection waiting like me...I can remember just so much of a reference...like map directions...good for a snippet, but not the whole map!...so, soh, here I happen on a take that begins with a motorcycle "grill"...lol...go figure!...from photos I took, my reference, I have five frames of a cartoon/comic...1. Squirrel in tree, in the "Y" crotch, espying two cats...2. Squirrel half way down tree trunk still looking...3. Two cats at the edge corner of a brick planter seeing a sudden the squirrel...left one is twisted looking back and up...right, straight on full length same look..4. Squirrell from behind tail up running away across street...5. one cat sitting a tree's base, looking at the runaway squirrel...that's it!...illustration from imagination is something I'd like to learn, or adapt from my writing, where I can...oh, I want to illustrate my stories...anyway, I set aside my photo references, and focused just on the twisted cat...head upward looking in profile...one front leg planted...one back leg stretched way back...and cat's tail end on the ground in front...now and then for days now I do little sketches, just from memory...the little bit of the map I have is just the two ears...the angle of one in front of the other...the rest a blur!...my sketches all off...with six cats running around how can this be?...well, I dont have enough "cat" committed to map memory...the task is on going,  I havent revisited the photos, but I am watching the cats, and filling in the blurred cat map...like the straightness and length of the lower back leg...I didn't have that...but, just for fun, I thought to google search "twisted cat" images...hmmph...a common deformity in cats is crippled twisted legs- the tendons cinch up...too many sad cat pics!...such the hazard of images references!...a curio is the name for a fishing gear maker, Twisted Cat, their ad image a Catfish making a twisted turn for a baited hook!...lol...the same conceit of my little cartoon...I'm at moment binge watching on youtube The Unsung Heroes Of Illustration...and too how to vlogs...much to learn, and find amusement in...that 3D-drawing, and then the figurine, I'd never seen that done before...props!...I live in a cave...😃😃😃
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Notes: As with many things, something simple can become complicated in a hurry...such was, is, my effort to draw Twisted Cat...TC is one frame of a five frame comic strip...explained in the sketches and comment...I did a google image search Twisted Cat, and quickly found the poor crippled cats...well, as it happens, one of our six, seven, not sure anymore, cats has a crippled back leg, but Autumn hobbles about just fine...that an aside....aside too is there is a fishing gear product that has for a logo a catfish twisting around to grab a hook...the self same Little, or Tucker, was doing to look at the Brown Squirrel in the Jacaranda...it's in the sketch notes...these messy notes are no less than what cartoonists and animators and video game designers do to come up with stuff...concept art...there are concept artists that all they do is this...come up with sketches that prompt the staff...famously Disney did this for his staff...they were stuck, not knowing where to go with the story of Snow White...so Disney got them together, and acted out in person all the characters and the story...and off they went...being 'stuck' is a common plight...one has a notion but not a clue how to go about it...there are talented geniuses who can get over such obstacles, and have dragged humanity along since the beginning!...Wot!, DavidDavid???...patience, I'll get there, somehow...this is going to be long...so, soh, I took photos of the cats, and it would be simple to draw out the five scenes from the photos...I began to do that, but the camera battery died, so I couldn't upload them...thought is to draw from my big screen lcd tv...so I put things off to next day, but then while listening to the radio and snacking on the driveway in Silver, my Jeep, I thought to sketch out the scenes from memory...and thought long on drawing from memory, from imagination...I know a little bit of human and animal anatomy, bones and muscles...but my grasp isn't photographic...I gather it can be if I practice-the ten thousand thing...but then what?...I can do photo realism, and lost, left behind, would be naivete...hard to explain naive art...stuff children do...stuff people do with no art training...art has an adulthood...nowadays a professionalism...anyway, I set myself the task of drawing the scenes from memory, hoping for a kind of blend of my naivenss and knowledge...most folk read cartoons in a moment and a glance...amongst illustrators though, they study one another's works obsessively...see Beard, The Unsung Heroes of Illustration on youtube...so, soh, this long take is of that obsession!...I couldn't get the stretched out back leg right...and with that problem in the forefront of my thoughts, for days, those sketch pages above just a few of many, I began taking note of back legs...now, I've drawn back legs before...at Lunch in the Valley, I would copy from Loomis' Animal Illustration book...but one doesn't know what one has, until swimming about without a reference!...I'd totally lost what animal back legs look like, and kinda sunk in gloom that I could be so stupid...but browsing, I happened on a story, an illustrated story, in the New Yorker, about the difficulty of drawing horses...brb...

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How to Draw a Horse | The New Yorker

May 30, 2019 — To learn to draw horses, you can't just want to draw them; you must NEED to draw them.

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it's behind their paywall, but before the "curtain" closed, I noted how the back leg of a horse looks...the back of it is a graceful semicircle, that curls back, then ends in a sharp point, and from there the narrow foreleg angles forward to the hoof...looking about, I found that this is how all four legged animal back legs look...aha!...a motif!!!!...a sudden, all my studies of ancient motifs transferred, adapted, to learning to draw...I can just sift things out by seeing individual motifs, and as I draw, just sort of put them together...looking long at the horse's back leg, now my Twisted Cat's back leg too,  I realized it not only can be thought of as a motif, it IS an ancient motif...the Bull's back leg, the Big Dipper/North Star/Polaris...it's in the center of the Egyptian Zodiac of Dendera...the Pre-Columbian Americans noted the Big Dipper, it's said, as the Twisted Gourd...the Step Fret...every culture saw different things in the Stars, and made their constellations...the Egyptians saw the Dipper as a Bull's Leg...we see it as a Dipper!...with it's companion Little Dipper...Ursula Major, Ursula Minor, Big Bear, Little Bear...I hesitate to learn the Constellations, least my Stars become "their' Stars...astronomers are a menace...anyway...brb...

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https://www.livescience.com/ancient-egyptian-star-constellations.html

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they just found that image...the leg sometimes combines with the bull's head/horns....so, I have this little transition, from drawing the leg from memory, which was near right, to having seen the curves and straight lines...a bit like learning a letter of the alphabet...all along, I'm keeping in mind the old rock artists...they were doing what I am doing...seeing the everyday, then trying, on a cave wall or such, no less than to draw what they were familiar with...I've been going back through history trying to find where the 'dog leg' first appears!...it's really old...the clay 13,000 year old Bisons in the the cave in France...I've been going around to caves and ruins with the Dog Leg motif in mind...the artists who make it had to bridge like I did from just drawing a kind of stick figure, to the more animated and correct Dog Leg...been meaning to look at Andean Pre-Columbian art...do they 'see' it?...brb...

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https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-americas/south-america-early/inca-art/a/inka-an-introduction

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I cant say that artist didn't know the 'dog leg'...but those straight legs are what I would expect, the naivenss before learning the dog leg shape...from Loomis, I remember the 'tip' that in animals, concave curves have opposite convex curves...sorta...the top of my finger is flat, straight...the underside like three soft concave curves...here I'm thinking 'motifs' for drawing are like 'tips'...the bouncy look of Disney cartoons is a collection of such 'tips'...in sketches above one can see me puzzling over where there's fat skin, or just skin and bone!...the soft skin areas of our face, the muscles, make our expressions...one can just use one's self as a drawing manneken/model, and curious the ancient cave artists were very close to doing just that with their handprints!...I dunno!...

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This a post-Columbian artist, not long after the Conquest in Peru...the artist knew the dog leg...and likely influenced by the European art they saw...I think...brb...

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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Moche-Representation-of-a-Camelid-Drawing-by-Donna-McClelland-2007_fig17_320387359

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I'm guessing this modern rendering is true to the vase painting...the Moche had the dog leg...very apparent in their Deer drawings....and they pre-dated the Inca...I dont know what that drawing is a part of, but I took note of the Strombus shells...spiral shells like this, the cut in half profile, said to be the origin of the step fret, twisted gourd...too much to recap!...see previous posts...thinking on this similarity of the dog leg to the gourd, I did a step fret search...hadn't done one in awhile...search twisted gourd...brb..

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 In that sense the cosmology of a new social order worked much like a morphological change in a population that moved it from stasis to cladogenesis. 

https://thetinkuy.wordpress.com/2020/05/22/twisted-gourd-xicalcoliuhqui-the-symbolic-language-of-the-pre-columbian-rainmakers-a-cosmovision-of-divine-rule-of-a-triadic-universe-2/

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well, I first read that on my tablet, it's a new entry, I think, to that blog, which I have referenced before...this a few days back, and I wanted to copy paste a bit, but the tablet memory was full, and I thought, I'll get back to it...what the author was on about, is that legendary figures like Kulkukan, who brought gifts to mankind like agriculture, irrigation, reading, writing, and such, have a modern counterpart in geniuses like Tesla and Edison...these individuals have an almost, or maybe it is, supernatural ability to bridge from one thing, a stasis, to another, a cladogenesis...now, hereabout I have to go look up cladogenesis...lol!...brb...well, it's a biological evolutionary term...a species changing into another...which has obviously happened, but no one certain how...well, a kid nowadays with a cell phone connected to the web is a far cry from some ancient child of Greece, Egypt, Mesoamerica...there's been some changes...a succession of inventions...and in a blink of time...the article connects the step fret with the American Southwest all the way down to Peru...and my own browsing of the web, affirms this...my latest annotation is a bit of textile they found on one of the child sacrifice mummies atop an Andean peak...it has the step fret and chacana motifs...the blog author refers to what connected the Cointinents as like a Silk Road...oh, maybe I can word search the article-silk...that would locate what I wanted to quote...brb...

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And why did it start with a mercantile cult? I can think of nothing else but a pan-Amerindian version of Asia’s Silk Road along which merchants traveled and a river of ideas flowed that could account for the facts of  a multilingual Puebloan culture with a touch of the Huichol’s rainbow deer here, a bit of Puuc-style core-and-veneer masonry there, a Veracruz-type cranial modification associated with traders, and a pinch of Palenque’s interest in polydactly as a sign of a snake-jaguar, “all directions”  Centerplace ruler. All all of these ideas were reflected in the Anasazi culture that developed at the periphery of Mesoamerican influence in the northern Southwest. The thread that ran from South America to North America and shaped a new world religion that embraced these ideas was Twisted Gourd symbolism. 

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lol...and I'll leave off with that...

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DavidDavid

OTI:14poems,2comments,notes::12/13/20

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Remember The Panay

14 Poems

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Schooling

Seven touching petals to my blossom-
So I'm in a crowded lightless room
Blind alike alike flowers as eveyone together
Nudged packaged closest surrounding-
Candy boxed in schools
Startled and shaped this way that.
Raptors in the rooms.

Dream Notes

First digital film movie.

Snow hemesphere skiing and surfing

Down close together stones.

Pretty

"Stay Pretty"!
A salutation to the roadside flowers
We paused to see
As off we go in a melancholy roar.
Goodbyes always so sad.



Covid

The red flag is up,
 And that crowd is aswim without flippers.

Undertow

Someone dies in the bed beside yours,
"Like drowning!" it's said,
And a burly sort arrives-
Bagged and over their shoulder that someone goes,
Victim of the undertow.

Book Worms

Oh, you crowd of ghosts
Gathered about me
Is scaring everyone away.

Laces

The stone scratchers
The red ochre painters
Pectographers pictographers
Were copy cats
Monkey see monkey dos
Like stuck phonograph records for centuries
Until on occasion some mad genious
Glorius advanced the artworld.
And so now too
Its not the what or why or who,
But the how
Like tying a shoe
Now this way then that way tightened.
It's been a long walk
And still bare footprints along the beaches.

Appearance

Sit down with me!
Your black, my white,
Brown, Red...avatar blue!
It's the matter of choice...
To look in the mirror and be able to say,
That's not me...
That's not you.

Luck

You have all your parts!
An embarassement in your presents.
Psshaw...I've lost this and that
And look forward to renewal.
Such is luck.
Such is fucked!

Skill Set

So, what are you...?
I dunno...tools in a box
And a modest set of skills?
Ah, so what will you make?
Oh, that's easy,
You, and me.

Bridge of Insults

I was on that bridge a long time...
Oh, now you tell me!  Lol, I'm still there...
True enough, my hooded dreams bedevil...
So stranded I am, to be said,
On the way to Eleusis, the Mysterey
No one relates, foreswarn to secrecy.
No secret this cacophony between here and there.

Wonders

You look to me for wonders you havent seen?
That's hilarious, I havent been out of the house for months...

Paragons

Simultaneously we've arrived at the end of things,
And find we can hold the family album
In one hand, reminisce,
Everyone therein complete, then to interminable now,
Except the inditerminate children that didnt make it far
Enough to be more than paragons
In the memories of their play.


Out And Backs

Before the "out"
Of an "out and back"
I measure...
And, and sometimes just stay home,
Leave the Moon to the Cow.

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Lol...was searching up the textiles, but just came from a search of red hair, where in the world it is most prevalent...it's hard to refute the supremacists...and genetics is a problem...hapsburgh jaw, ankanaton's/tut's elongated heads...royal family intermarriage may have been an Andean thing too...the long head deformity becoming popular thing to mimic royalty amongst the general population, hence the techniques applied to deform children's heads...it's easy to fix inbreeding, outbreed...trouble is, royalties have harems, and such, so a genetic flaw would spread into the general populace...this, while the royals themselves worsen through their inbreeding...I dont know if anyone considers this harem problem...one royal male with a pass along genetic flaw would wreck havoc...see Queen Victoria and hemophilia!...to get a grip on all this maybe consider breeds of dogs...I mean, that's what the supremists go on about-breeding...to be well bred in genetic sense...well, that's obvious, it's being pretty, talented, all that...what in the sports world is called "having good genes"...a world divided into racial "white"and "mud", the idea is silly, yet it is held without foundation...there's no racial division, humanity is one race, one species...now, as to breeds, as with dogs, there are all kinds of human breeds, both physical and cultural...some big some small, some short some tall...a no brainer...now, as to the "red headed" breed...red hair is everywhere, like, what, 4 per cent?...comes to mind north american brown bears...some are cinamon, even blond...and black...hmmph...odd that the pure white fur of cats and dogs...???...age in humans!..anyway, lol, if there ever was a "master breed" that informed civilization all over the world, I have its souce the Crimean Peninsula at Sebastopol, location of the highest incidence of red heads!...I have no command of genetic data, and anytime I see "data" I suspect it's "cooked"...there's data ledgers true, and data ledgers false, the true hidden behind the false by the nefarius...like falsifying income to cheat on taxes...royals posturing as being high born, superior, has always everwhere been a kind of cheat when they try to maintain that status generation to generation through inbreeding, and politics...such the supremacist's world...history has examples of attempts to breed for traits...any dog show shows such off...what they dont show is the narrow breeding to get this or that  trait or traits is a trade off, and many rejected out of hand for not meeting a standard, along with "purebreds" having problematic temperments, and weaknesses...John Muir noted this about domestic animals...they're not robust as the wild originals...

Watch "The Brion McClanahan Show Episode 387: Texas Files a Bad Lawsuit" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/AZaPdtCeGNU

Oh, the take I see  by Texas is they're offended Penn. didn't follow Penn's. own procedures, sort of like a rule of order complaint-this happened in my basketball ref unit...the president didnt follow a procedure-a board candidate had to win by fifty percent-two of three canidates declared winners  with less by our president-unit arms akimbo in protest, so, soh, we all voted again...I relate this poorly, but Texas is saying Penn didnt abide by Penns own rules, so devalueing the entire election, leastwise for Penn, and the other three too?...something vague in it all...I get it Penn judges okayed the mail ins because of covid, and I think that refers to the three day grace period after the 3rd, and sending everyone ballots...and the wrinkle is the Penn legislaters didnt pass law about this...did the other states do this too?...the Supreme court has turned their attention to this...Thursday 3pm briefs to be submitted stating what they oppose in Texas' complaint...which specifically lays out this pocedure rule of order gaff?...if Texas is right, then all through the states, the state legisators have to pass laws for the voting,-the courts cant...Penn courts said mail in okay, gave a review period that came and went, and Penn is content...they're not sueing themselves, hmm?...Texas could, I guess, sue for any kind of irregularity, present the 'truckload' tale, and such...but those tales havent flown...so, soh, if the Supreme court decides Texas is right, then Penn legislater convenes, passes law for mail ins like the courts approved, and they all vote again...all of us vote again...as, like explained, a national decree now made, and a national procedure put in place...federal rulings cant be distributed piecemeal, and for that matter, this would need congress to pass the law...courts administer, congress/legislaters make...so, if Texas wins, congress makes national law regarding mail ins, and we vote again...but wait...a big chunk of congress has just been voted in, or out, by the self same disputed mail in  votes!...Jan 6 their innagurations...all the red state republican governors will goad their respective attorney generals to hop on Texas' wagon...a class action suit...this happening as I write...meanwhile, the political parties, both of them, will see fit to sue government at all levels...the Dems quiet now, but if Texas wins...if Texas wins its a slippery slope to Hobbes Leviathan, even slippier to Himmlers National Police/Gestapo...the Stormers got their skis on...😃😃😃

Notes: Goya's lantern, previous post, was lifted and changed into an electric light bulb by Picasso in his famous painting, Guernica, which was about a small Spanish town in 1937 being bombed...I was going to work these lanterns and lightbulbs up...oh, I just learned a word that may explain..."mannerism"...mannerist paintings tell stories through symbolisms(edit: I have this detail wrong, "mannerism" a painterly technique?...I dunno...lol!)..another notion I just found is "problem pictures"...these are paintings that are deliberately puzzling, made up scenes from some imaginary story that the audience is invited to guess about-there were contests...dont know but current news isnt "mannerist", "problematic"...anyway, Picasso and Goya were in the mannerist tradition, as, I've learned watching the youtube art vlogs, were the Pre-Raphelites...before the artist Rapheal was the very symbolist medeival art, often anonymously made, and this the Pre-Raphealites tried to revive...one of their paintings, The Light of the World, a Christ like crowned figure holding a lantern, was enormously popular in the 19th Century...it was on a huge canvas, and shown all over the British Empire, America too, I think...this was done with paintings back then...and to set them off when being shown, they would be in a dark room, and lit with a gaslight-a new bright light...where the term gaslighting came from...1937, 12/12/37, was the time of the sinking of the USS Panay...I usually do a post on 12/12...Remember the Panay...bit late to post, but it was in my thoughts...times it seems "too much" to post my thoughts!...the poems: Schooling...from murmaration, what Starlings do, flocking in cloud shapes...each Starling is in contact with seven surrounding Starlings...when one moves they all move...a mannerism!...even a kind of lantern, the transmission light like...Dream Notes...I dreamed a take on the first digital movie was on film...how?...the film didnt advance while the shutter rapidly fired, and the flight of a bee landing on a flower animation recorded in one frame...lol...I'm making this up, a take on the dream which was like that...I wondered if I had seen such on the web!...I dreamed of stand up surfing/skiing over snow covered rocks on one of those round sit on snow sleds...Stay Pretty from OnHerBike...along African road Kinga was flower visiting...this certainly a mannerist moment...search: roadside flowers poem...too, painting...yet to try that...just searching "poetry" on the web doesnt cut it...like just searching 'news"...one needs to add a second, or more, search term, then things open up...the two long comments I posted to youtube vlog comment sections, then deleted them...too much...but here I include them...and likely too much too!...

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DavidDavid