Thursday, October 1, 2015

Call Me Israel

A text only post, and about history, afield from fauna and flora, sort of...and grim, so dear readers, a caution to read on...

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Call me Ishmael...

Moby Dick
Herman Melville

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I thought... and I was impressed with the thought...that there were just Ten Lost Tribes of Israel...there are many accounts, all speculative, of where they went...here's link to one that has some pages on the web...

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A second major migration may have occurred five centuries later with the breakup of the Trojan Empire...

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Israel's Lost 10 Tribes: Migrations to Britain and the USA

Jan 10, 2012

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I found that, and thought, 'oh, someone going on about the Trojans too...'...but only a few pages of book are on web for review, and I set it aside, and with a following lookabout on the web, happened on...

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Finding the Twelve Lost Tribes of Ishmael
Copyright 2002
CanBooks

Web Site The Nabataeans


Most of us are familiar with the ancient story of Abraham and his desire to have a son. In the Biblical account of his story, Abraham first has a son through his 'handmaiden' Hagar. This son is named Ishmael and is Abraham's first born son. When Abraham's second son is born, this son, named Isaac, is declared the 'son of promise.' The Jews today claim decent from Abraham through this second son, Isaac. Few people today, however, know what happened to the descendants of Ishmael. It is often assumed that they simply became the Arabs of the Middle East, but to most of us, our knowledge of them stops there. 

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2707/2707-h/2707-h.htm

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So, on finding THAT, I have it that there were Twenty Four Tribes descended from Abraham...and Ishmael's descendants, those Twelve Tribes, resided on the Arab Peninsula...the Kaabbaa is thought to be over the Spring that provided water for Hagar when she was exiled to the desert....

Sorting out the Tribes, and where they went, is complicated!...and then, and then there's this....

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The Battle of Khaybar was fought in the year 629 between Muslims and the Jews living in the oasis of Khaybar, located 150 kilometers (93 mi) from Medina in the north-western part of the Arabian peninsula, in modern-day Saudi Arabia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar

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The Jews of the Oasis are called the Banu Nadir

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The Banu Nadir (Arabic: بنو النضير ‎) were a Jewish tribe who lived in northern Arabia until the 7th century at the oasis of Madinah . The tribe challenged Muhammad as the leader of Medina,[1] planned along with allied nomads to attack Muhammad [2] and were expelled from Medina as a result. The Banu Nadir then planned the battle of the Trench together with the Quraysh.[3] They later participated in the battle of Khaybar. [4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Nadir

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This is a page of history I haven't happened on before!...

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However, the story, in my view, has its origins in earlier events. Is can be shown that it reproduces similar stories which survived from the account of the Jewish rebellion against the Romans, which ended in the destruction of the temple in the year AD. 73, the night of the Jewish zealots and sicarii to the rock fortress of Masada, and the final liquidation of the besieged. Stories of their experience were naturally transmitted by Jewish survivors who fled south. Indeed one of the more plausible theories of the origin of the Jews of Medina is that they came after the Jewish wars. This was the theory preferred by the late Professor Guillaume.

NEW LIGHT ON THE STORY OF BANU QURAYZA AND THE
 
JEWS OF MEDINA
 
By W. N. ARAFAT
 
 
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A thought here, that this may have been a 'second migration', an earlier being when the Babylonians destroyed the First Temple...
 
What one is left with is an intermingling of tribesmen from all twenty four tribes on the Arab peninsula!
 
And then there's this...
 
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"The Afghans call themselves Bani Israel, or the children of Israel, but consider the term Yahoodi, or Jew, to be one of reproach. They say that Nebuchadnezzar, after the overthrow of Israel, transplanted them into the towns of Ghore near Bamean and that they were called after their Chief Afghan they say that they lived as Israelites till Khalid summoned them in the first century of the Muhammadans.
 
Theory of Pashtun descent from Israelites
 
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So, the scope of the Tribesmen's migrations widens...as far as India...
 
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The 'black' Malabar component of the Cochin Jews, according to Shalva Weil, might have arrived in India together with Solomon's merchants.
 
History of the Jews in India
 
 
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and all the way to China...
 
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The presence of a community of Jewish immigrants in China is consistent with the history of the Jewish people during the first and second millennia CE, which saw them disperse and settle throughout the Eurasian landmass, with an especial concentration throughout central Asia.[
 
 
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And more!
 
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Jewish traditions are split between those, like Josephus, who consider Ishmael the ancestor of the Arabs,[16] and those, like Maimonides, who believe that the northern Arabs are descended from the sons of Keturah, whom Abraham married after Sarah's death.[
 
 
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Keturah bore Abraham six sons: Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah. The Genesis and First Chronicles accounts also list seven grandsons (Sheba, Dedan, Ephah, Epher, Enoch, Abida, and Eldaah).[2][3] Keturah's sons were said to have represented the Arab tribes who lived south and east of Palestine.[15]
 
 
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More Tribesmen!
 
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The name "Israel" in these phrases refers to the patriarch Jacob (Standard Yisraʾel, Isrāʾīl; Septuagint Greek: Ἰσραήλ Israēl; "struggle with God"[46]) who, according to the Hebrew Bible, was given the name after he successfully wrestled with the angel of the Lord.[47] Jacob's twelve sons became the ancestors of the Israelites, also known as the Twelve Tribes of Israel or Children of Israel. Jacob and his sons had lived in Canaan but were forced by famine to go into Egypt for four generations until Moses, a great-great grandson of Jacob,[48] led the Israelites back into Canaan during the "Exodus".
 
 
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There's like a four hundred year time distance between Jacob and Moses, and one wonders what migrations may have occurred due to famines and such thenabout...
 
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"We're not seeing a significant genetic influence from elsewhere on the coastal population in what was the Levant region," says Wells. "The people are very similar to the groups we see inland in Syria and Jordan, for example, suggesting that there wasn't a huge influx of Sea Peoples or others from outside the area. A cultural shift occurred but not a genetic one. Today's Lebanese, the Phoenicians, and the Canaanites before them are all the same people."
 
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During the next few years, Wells and Zalloua plan to expand the sample size in the Middle East, southern Spain, and northern Africa. "I'm particularly interested in the Phoenician impact on Africa," Wells says. "We know that Phoenicians—to a certain extent—controlled the trans-Saharan trade routes from their center of Carthage. They also navigated through the Strait of Gibraltar and moved around western Africa. But how far south did they get? And did they leave a genetic trail?" The search continues.
 
 
 
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Thought that brought me to that is that the Phoenicians were Jews...lot of web pages going on about that...that early Jewish alphabets and Phoenician alphabets are alike gives the notion credence...
 
so, so, the Tribesmen are going East, all the way to China, and how far West?
 
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The theory of Phoenician discovery of the Americas is a fringe theory that suggests there was Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact between people of the New World and the Phoenicians or other Semitic peoples in the first millennium BC.[
 
 
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And one should consider further back the Sons of Noah...
 
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Noah blessed Shem above his brothers (Genesis 9:26–27), and it was through Shem that the promised seed destined to crush Satan came (Genesis 3:15). That seed is traced back to Adam’s son Seth (Genesis 5:1–32), through Shem, and on to Abraham, Judah, and David, leading all the way to Christ (Luke 3:36).

Shem’s son Elam was the father of the Elamites, who later settled east of Mesopotamia. Shem’s son Ashur, whose name is related to the word Assyria, is most likely is the father of those who settled the ancient region of Assyria (
Genesis 2:14). Arphaxad is thought by many scholars to be a compound form of the Hebrew word for “Chaldea,” which was a region in southern Mesopotamia (Genesis 11:10–13). It was through Arphaxad that Eber came. Scholars believe that the descendants of Shem’s son Lud became known as the Lydians of Asia Minor. And Aram is identified by Bible scholars with the area northeast of the Promised Land, known today as Syria (cf. 2 Kings 16:6). The sons of Aram are listed in Genesis 10:23. Of Aram’s sons, Uz is later referred to in the book of Job (Job 1:1).

Who were the sons of Noah, and what happened to them and their descendants?

http://www.gotquestions.org/sons-of-Noah.html

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more tribesmen...

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Other scholars regard Dʿmt as the result of a union of Afro-Asiatic cultures of the Cushitic and Semitic branches; namely, local Agaw peoples and Sabaeans from Southern Arabia. However, Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Ethiopia, is thought to have developed independently from Sabaean (also South Semitic). As early as 2000 BC, other Semitic speakers were living in Ethiopia and Eritrea, where Ge'ez developed.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia

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The story is told in the Kebra Negast (in Ge’ez language, Glory of the Kings), Ethiopia’s chronicle of its royal line: the Queen of Sheba, one of its first rulers, traveled to Jerusalem to benefit from King Solomon’s wisdom; on her way home, she bore Solomon’s son, Menelik. A few years later, Menelik went to visit his father, and on his return journey was accompanied by the firstborn sons of some Israelite nobles—who, unbeknown to him, stole the ark and carried it with them to Ethiopia.

Ethiopia: Ark of the Covenant Reported Stolen by Chuch Authorities
November 11th, 2014 | by Barbara Johnson

 


 
I think the modern ark stolen tale (see link) might be made up...a check for veracity for sometime!
 
So, Tribesmen east to China, west to the Americas, south down Africa,....
 
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Beginning in the 8th century, Khazar royalty and notable segments of the aristocracy might have converted to Judaism. Khazar origins for, or suggestions Khazars were absorbed by many peoples, have been made regarding the Slavic Judaising Subbotniks, the Bukharan Jews, the Muslim Kumyks, Kazakhs, the Cossacks of the Don region, the Turkic-speaking Krymchaks and their Crimean neighbours the Karaites to the Moldavian Csángós, the Mountain Jews and others.[19][20][21] A modern theory, that the core of Ashkenazi Jewry emerged from a hypothetical Khazarian Jewish diaspora, is now viewed with scepticism by most scholars,[22] but occasionally supported by others.[23] This Khazarian hypothesis is sometimes associated with antisemitism[24] and anti-Zionism.[25]
 
 
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and north to Russia...
 
I've skipped some of the big places the Tribesmen may have gone, like the Dogon Tribesmen of Africa, but there's one little place I find charming...
 
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The synagogue of Delos, Greece, is the oldest synagogue known today,[1] its origin dating between 150 and 128 BCE. The building’s most recent use is widely agreed to have been an assembly hall for Jews or Samaritans.
 
 
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and of course there is some uncertainty of its Jewish origins...
 
"Call me Israel..." could have been the beginning of Melville's novel Moby Dick...
 
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