Monday, November 30, 2015

Centaurs

Maya, my dog, chewed up my phone line connection on the back side of the house, this about 11pm last night while watching cbs The Good Wife...I knew it might happen, sooner or later, wiring was just hanging there, but it hadn't happened, like for months...hmmph...called out the att repairman...very nice...got a new modem in the bargain, and no charge for reconnecting the wires...busy the rest of the morning putting a cover over the wires and junction box...hope it's Maya proof!...I have yet another harness on order, and hopefully when that comes, Maya and I can go for walks and adventures...

In my reading, I find that there's this thought that mounted horseman came out of Asia nearabout Ukraine, and at the time mounted horseman were a brand new thing, and opponents of the horseman mistook the riders as being part of the horse, hence Centaurs...this happened when the Spanish fought the Aztecs..the Aztecs thought horse and rider were one creature...

centaurs in Turkey

In antiquity the steppe produced whole nations of Centaurs whose men women and children became expert riders and participated in games, hunting, and warfare. In pristine times, Centaurs roved over every part of Eurasia--from Spain in the West, to Denmark in the North, to China in East, and India in the South--but only Greece remembers.

The Rise of the Centaurs: The origin of horsemanship. The untold story.

 By Bjarke Rink reports

https://books.google.com/books?id=DVb2AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=centaurs+in+turkey&source=bl&ots=H867SOCDwS&sig=KEuU832oNoE7MyUyv7FDxUnglnk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_y_PAiLfJAhWB8j4KHb_kCZE4ChDoAQgcMAA#v=onepage&q=centaurs%20in%20turkey&f=false

The Gigantomachy is likely a remembrance of invasions by Centaurs, mounted warrior tribes.  And Robert Graves considers that they had there own set of gods and goddesses, more patriarchal than the Greek tribes at the time who were more matriarchal...Graves whole argument is that Asian patriarchal religions supplanted matriarchal religions in Europe until there were no longer any temples to goddesses...

it's been a wonder if the replica temple to Athena in Georgia?...Tennessee...will some how re-awaken goddess worship...

replica Parthenon Athena

It contains a replica, completed in 1990, of the Athena Parthenos statue which was in the original Parthenon in Athens.
The Parthenon got a full makeover in 2002 with a much needed cleaning and restoration to the exterior. The exterior lighting was upgraded to allow the columns of building to be illuminated with different colors than the facade, allowing a uniquely versatile display of effects for events.

Parthenon (Nashville)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
It seems to me, that worship of gods and goddesses was the natural scheme of things to begin...and for the most part they started out as the spirits of natural things, thunder gods, rain gods, grain goddesses, love goddesses, and over time gods and goddesses acquired priesthoods, temples, rituals, laws and such...there's a back and forth about matriarchies and patriarchies...
 
matriarchies patriarchies
 
Patriarchy is a social system in which males hold primary power, predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property; in the domain of the family, fathers or father-figures hold authority over women and children. Many patriarchal societies are also patrilineal, meaning that property and title are inherited by the male lineage. The female alternative is matriarchy.
 

Patriarchy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
A matriarchy is a social organizational form in which the mother or oldest female heads the family. Descent and relationship are determined through the female line. It is also government or rule by a woman or women.
 

Matriarchy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
It's the monotheistic religions that tend to patriarchy...I don't know of any tribes that always had queens...Graves reaches back into the stone age for such!...there are lots of tribes that always have kings...
 
decline of goddess worship
 
Heide Göttner-Abendroth, working in the 1970s to mid 1980s and writing originally in German, called these cultures "matriarchies", introducing a feminist field of "Modern Matriarchal Studies". She presented a theory of the transformation of prehistoric cultures in which the local goddess was primary and the male god, if any, derived his power from the goddess. In what she terms the "Downfall", which occurred at varying times in various cultures, the gods overcame the goddesses and made them subservient.[28] This is believed[by whom?] to mirror the gradual suppression of women and the rise of patriarchy.
 

Goddess movement

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
Well, women have been suppressed...only a bit ago they were given the vote in America...across the Middle East they are very much suppressed, and I often wonder if that is what it is all about, the conflict over there being rooted in how those societies treat women.
 
Graves felt very much that the true nature of a religion can be seen in its iconography...Catholicism is patriarchal, but in its iconography there is often depicted the Virgin Mary with the baby Jesus...an icon expressing the need for a goddess to pray to! 
 
When the Spanish oppressed the Mexican tribes, and tried to convert them to Christianity, the tribes would have none of it, until a miraculous vision...
 
virgin of Guadalupe
 
According to another theory the juxtaposition of Guadalupe and a snake may indicate a nexus with the Aztec goddess of love and fertility, Tonantzin (in Nahuatl "Our Revered Mother"), who also went under the name of Coatlícue ("The Serpent Skirt"). This appears to be borne out by the fact that this goddess had had a temple dedicated to her on the very Tepeyac Hill where Juan Diego had his vision, temple which had recently been destroyed at the behest of the new Catholic authorities. In the 16th century the Franciscans were suspicious that the cult of Guadalupe showed, or was susceptible to, elements of syncretism, i.e. the importation of an object of reverence in one belief system into another
 

Our Lady of Guadalupe

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
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Sunday, November 29, 2015

Gigantomachia

I thought to look up Gigantomachia in Robert Graves's book The White Goddess...and from the index I find it is mentioned once, on page 58...so, so, I go to page 58, and, and find myself totally diverted by the other things on page 58!...thought to title this post, 'page 58'!...

The Altar of Pergamon depicts the Gigantomachia, and what I was going to go on about in this post is the similarity between the ancient Greek gods and goddess, and the heroes in the DC and Marvel comic book universes...but, but I'm diverted by page 58!

Graves gathered all his material for the White Goddess from books...I mean, that is all a historian can do when writing about ancient history...and Graves doesn't footnote...in his Greek Myths I II he does, and it would probably be wise to have those two books handy when sorting out things in The White Goddess...he does refer to books in the text, so there's some help, but often he just flings things out, and it's a guess where he got this or that...google helps, a lot!

the beginning of page 58 goes on about the Centaurs, where they got their name, and here's a fine question:

"Were the Hecatontocheiroi the Centaurs of mountainous Magnesia, whose friendship was strategically necessary to the Achaean pastoralist of Thessaly and Boetia?"

p 58
Robert Graves The White Goddess

I don't know, but that's some name...'Hecatontocheiroi'...

Hecatontocheiroie

In DC comics comic book Injustice: Gods Among Us (Year Four) appear monster called Hecatonchire.

Hekatonkheires

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hekatonkheires
 
Wiki does a nice thing...after giving the history and story of a Greek god or goddess, they list appearances in subsequent literature, films, songs, and such, right up to today...
 
I can't resist 'mountainous Magnesia'...
 
ancient Magnesia
 
The name "magnet" may come from lodestones found in Magnesia
 

Magnesia on the Maeander

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
Magnesia is in Turkey...
 
Pergamon Magnesia
 
Pursued in mid-December by the Romans up the river Phrygius, the Seleucids established a camp near Magnesia. Romans had about 30,000 troops and 2,800 cavalry, including 800 from Pergamon, under king Eumenes II. Antiochus' army numbered some 70,000, and had among it elephants, scythe-chariots, and heavily armored cavalry. Despite his overwhelming advantage in numbers, Antiochus, knowing the power of the legions, was loath to fight, staying in a strongly fortified camp on Mount Sipylos near the town of Magnesia on the Hermos river in Lydia.
 
Battle of Magnesia (190 BC)
 
 
So, I have it that Pergamon is just to the north of Magnesia, and that the Centaurs resided thereabout, (see correction and update below!) and can be thought of as the 'hundred handed ones', or something...something in that the Centaurs are tied in with the Giants, which makes sense, as the makers of the Altar of Pergamon chose to illustrate it with the story of the Giants...I think I saw that somewhere...
 
giants Pergamon
 
The Gigantomachy frieze on the outside walls of the Pergamon altar avoids to a great extent any direct references to contemporary military campaigns — except for the "Star of Macedonia" on the round shield of one of the Giants on the eastern frieze, or a Celtic oblong shield in the hand of a god on the northern frieze. The struggle of the Olympian gods, supported by Heracles, the astrological deities governing the days and hours and originating in the ancient race of the Titans, personifications of the forces of war and fate, sea creatures, and Dionysus with his followers, appears much rather to be a cosmological event of general ethical relevance.
 

Pergamon Altar

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
well, what I'm reaching for is that the Altar creators commemorated the Centaurs/Hekatonkheires, as the tribes thereabout thought of them as ancestors, or something...
 
Centaurs Hekatonkheires Pergamon
 
The late sixth early fifth century BC lyric poet Pindar provides some of the earliest details of the battle between the Giants and the Olympians. He locates it "on the plain of Phlegra" and has Teiresias foretell Heracles killing Giants "beneath [his] rushing arrows".[47] He calls Heracles "you who subdued the Giants",[48] and has Porphyrion, who he calls "the king of the Giants", being overcome by the bow of Apollo.[49] Euripides' Heracles has its hero shooting Giants with arrows,[50] and his Ion has the chorus describe seeing a depiction of the Gigantomachy on the late sixth century Temple of Apollo at Delphi, with Athena fighting the Giant Enceladus with her "gorgon shield", Zeus burning the Giant Mimas with his "mighty thunderbolt, blazing at both ends", and Dionysus killing an unnamed Giant with his "ivy staff".[51]
 

Giants (Greek mythology)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
quote has some of the 'greek gods and goddesses like comic book heroes' that I'm reaching for too!...and it notes that the battle of the Giants was thought to be in different places...I'm trying to pin point it to Pergamon...where is Phlegra?
 
Phlegra
 
Phlegra (Greek: Φλέγρα)[1] is both a real and a mythical location in both Greek and Roman mythology.
In Greek mythology, it is the site of Zeus's overthrowing of the Giants (Gigantes) at the end of the Gigantomachy.
Plegra is a peninsula of Macedonia (more specifically in Chalkidike) in modern Greece; it is an ancient name for Pallene in historical Thrace, the latter as per the toponymy of the ancients; Pallene – and Phlegra – is most commonly called nowadays Kassandra, or Peninsula of Kassandra.

Phlegra (mythology)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
again, another search/try!
 
centaurs tribe pergamon
 
THE KENTAUROI (or Centaurs) were a tribe of half man, half horse savages which inhabited the mountains and forests of Magnesia. They were a primitive race who made their homes in mountain caves, hunted wild animals for food and armed themselves with rocks and tree branches.
 
KENTAUROI THESSALIOI
 
 
 
Graves relates the Hekatonkheires to the Centaurs, and I don't know how he does that...yet...Centaurs don't look like Hekatonkheires...the Hekatonkheires have a hundred arms and heads and such and are really wild looking creatures form the company of the Giants...it might be that Graves is identifying tribes with their totems, and their gods and goddesses...the Battle of the Giants could have been near Pergamon...some notations have it that the Giants were a tribe...
 
Greek giants tribe 
 
The kneecaps of Ajax were exactly the size of a discus for the boy's pentathlon, wrote Pausanias. A boy's discus was about twelve centimeters in diameter, while a normal adult patella is around five centimeters, suggesting Ajax may have been around 14 feet (~4.3 meters) tall.
 

Giant (mythology)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
Well, if the Centaurs armed themselves with rocks and tree branches, they may have been very big, and in the company of the Giants...
 
centaurs tribe pergamon
 
The centaurs (Greek: Κενταυροι) are fairly popular beings in Greek mythology, but myths pertaining to them directly are not plentiful. The handfuls of tales that survive relate the nature of a boisterous race of horse-men who care only for drinking and numerous other vices. They were the children of Nephele (a nymph formed out of clouds in the shape of Hera by Zeus). The lustful and devious Lapith king Ixion raped Nephele (thinking it was Hera), thus impregnating her. She promptly gave birth to a clan of horse-men (the Centaurs). Though there are sparse references to female Centaurs from antiquity, they only appear in later art and literature of other cultures. Despite the barbaric nature of centaurs in general, certain centaurs were renowned for their wisdom. Kheiron (Chiron), for example, was the teacher of some of the greatest of Greek heroes, including Achilles, Herakles, Jason, and Theseus.
Blizzard took a distinctly central Asian influence for their centaurs, borrowing cultural elements from peoples such as the Mongols. Most notably, they are led by khans and live in collapsible huts.

Centaur

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Centaur#Conflict_with_the_Horde

Yes, there are Centaurs in World of Warcraft, thereabout in the Barrens and Desolace...not sure why 'pergamon' in that search string brings wiki's page up!...oh, search result says 'missing pergamon'...didn't see that...

more on page 58 tomorrowmorrow!

oh...wait...there's another Magnesia...

magnesia Thessaly

The name Magnesia is derived from the name of the first settlers in the region, the Magnetes. The geographic size of Magnesia is expands 2,600 square kilometres and has a population of 197,600 (Census 1991). In mythology, Pelion was the place that was chosen by the Gods of Olympus for their summer vacations, their festivities and their ceremonies. The marriage between Pelia and Thetitha took place here, and Homer, Pindaros and Evripides spoke of this in their stories.
Pelion was also home to the centaurs, the half horse and half man creatures, with the most famous being the centaur Chiron. Chiron was a very intelligent being and was teacher to Achilles and Hercules, as well as teaching medicine to Asclepios.

http://www.aroundpelion.com/pelion/magnesia/

This makes more sense, as a Battle with the Titans happened nearabout...

titans Thessaly

The war was fought to decide which generation of gods would have domain over the Universe; it ended in victory for the Olympians.

Titanomachy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
hmmph...oh!!!...I find some help...

Magnetes

The Magnetes (Greek: Μάγνητες) were an ancient Greek tribe. In book 2 of The Iliad Homer includes them in Greek Army that is besieging Troy, and identifies their homeland in Thessaly, in part of what is still known as Magnesia.[1] They later also contributed to the Greek colonisation by founding two prosperous cities in Western Anatolia, Magnesia on the Maeander and Magnesia ad Sipylum.

Magnetes

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
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Saturday, November 28, 2015

Queen and Huntress

a poem by Ben Johnson...

Cynthia's Revels: Queen and huntress, chaste and fair

By Ben Jonson 1572–1637 Ben Jonson

      

Queen and huntress, chaste and fair,
Now the sun is laid to sleep,
Seated in thy silver chair
State in wonted manner keep:
         Hesperus entreats thy light,
         Goddess excellently bright.

Earth, let not thy envious shade
Dare itself to interpose;
Cynthia's shining orb was made
Heaven to clear when day did close:
         Bless us then with wished sight,
         Goddess excellently bright.

Lay thy bow of pearl apart
And thy crystal-shining quiver;
Give unto the flying hart
Space to breathe, how short soever:
         Thou that mak'st a day of night,
         Goddess excellently bright.
 
 
I could kind of make sense of the poem by myself after going over it several times, but I looked further about the web...Hesperus is another name for the goddess Venus...Cynthia is another name for Artemis or Diana, the goddess of hunting, often depicted with a bow and quiver...don't know but the Hunger Games movie star, Jennifer Lawrence, is our modern manifestation!...Cynthia comes from a hill on Delos named Cynthus...Artemis was the twin of Apollo, and Delos was where Apollo and Artemis were born...Cynthia too is the Moon...and there is a constellation to Artemis and to her story...
 
Artemis
 
Multiple versions of the Actaeon myth survive, though many are fragmentary. The details vary but at the core they involve a great hunter, Actaeon who Artemis turns into a stag for a transgression and who is then killed by hunting dogs. Usually the dogs are his own, who no longer recognize their master. Sometimes they are Artemis' hounds.
 

Artemis

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
The 'hart' in the poem likely refers to Actaeon as a stag...oh...and here the tale of Orion, who met much the same fate as Actaeon...
 
 
orion artemis constellation 
 
The god of the sun Apollo was jealous of Orion because of Artemis' love for him, and looked for a way to kill him. Apollo challenged Artemis to hit a speck far out in the ocean, teasing her about her archery skills. Apollo knew, although Artemis didn't, that the speck was really Orion swimming. Artemis killed him with a single arrow. When she realized it was Orion, she was overcome with guilt and placed him up in the heavens as a constellation. His faithful hunting dog, Sirius, would not stop searching hysterically for his master Orion, so Artemis placed him, the Dog Star, at Orion's heels.
 
The Sirius Myth
 
 
Ben Johnson lived and wrote at the time of Shakespeare, and they had an audience that was familiar with Greek myths, along with the stories from the Bible...reading these old poems nowadays, one needs a crib, notes and such...Poetry lost much when audiences no longer had easy familiarity with the Myths and Bible stories...the poem is part of a play, called Cynthia...and I learn that Queen Elizabeth I was nicknamed Cynthia, as she was compared to Artemis/Diana...Johnson was trying to win favor with Elizabeth, to have his plays become part of the entertainments she put on...these were after dark entertainments in her court, so this may be the reference to day in night in the poem...
 
"Thou that mak'st a day of night
Goddess excellently bright."
 
Johnson may be identifying himself with the 'hart'...and as it happened the play was controversial, being too critical/satirical of Elizabeth's courtiers..
 
Ben Johnson Queen Elizabeth
 
 
That link is a pdf...and has a long account of Ben Johnson and Queen Elizabeth...too long to copy/paste!...from the book:

The Cambridge Companion to Ben Jonson

 By Richard Harp, Stanley Stewart
 
and no, I don't have easy familiarity with Myths and Bible stories, and like most, google!
 
 
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Friday, November 27, 2015

The Red Basilica

A text only post, and about history, afield from fauna and flora, sort of...and grim, so dear readers, a caution to read on...

I'll put the search strings in bold, these are the beginning of a quote, and the link(s), the ulr(s), which are highlighted too, will be the quote(s) end(s)...

Well, I continued to web poke around Pergamon (see previous two posts), and happened on another ruined Temple thereabout, called now The Red Basilica, or Red Hall...it was constructed with red bricks which were covered with marble...the marble is since gone, leaving behind just the red bricks, hence the names...and it is a marvel of a Temple, maybe more so than any I've come across in these history posts...it is thought to be a Temple to Serapis and Isis and Egyptian gods in general, and how and why it is in Pergamon in Turkey is a bit of a mystery...what I gather, is that from the time of Ptolemy in Egypt, this following the death of Alexander, there was an effort by the Greeks, then Romans, to consolidate religions...

Ptolemy serapeum

The Cult of Serapis was introduced during the 3rd century BC on the orders of Ptolemy I of Egypt[1] as a means to unify the Greeks and Egyptians in his realm.

Serapis

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
A serapeum is a temple or other religious institution dedicated to the syncretic Hellenistic-Egyptian god Serapis, who combined aspects of Osiris and Apis in a humanized form that was accepted by the Ptolemaic Greeks of Alexandria. There were several such religious centers, each of which was a serapeion (Greek: Σεραπεῖον) or, in its Latinized form, a serapeum.
 
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Pergamon

Inside Pergamon in Bergama, there is the Temple of Serapis, built for the Egyptian gods in the 2nd century CE and called the Red Basilica or Red Courtyard (Kızıl Avlu in Turkish) by locals. This is a basilica-shaped building constructed under the reign of Hadrian.

Serapeum

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
Hadrian was about what Ptolemy had been three or four hundred years before, and by about I mean this term "syncretic"...
 
syncretic

 
Syncretism (/ˈsɪŋkrətɪzəm/) is the combining of different, often contradictory beliefs, while blending practices of various schools of thought. Syncretism involves the merger and analogizing of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths. Syncretism also occurs commonly in expressions of arts and culture (known as eclecticism) as well as politics (syncretic politics).
 

Syncretism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
Hadrian was a piece of work, and his syncretic pursuit led him to try and build like a Greek Acropolis on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem...he would restore the Temple, and add gods and goddesses from all over...the Jews would have none of it, and revolted...it was a fierce revolt, and Hadrian won out..for the Jews it was a watershed event, and the beginning of the Diaspora in earnest from Israel...
 
Hadrian Jewish revolt

 
The outbreak and initial success of the rebellion took the Romans by surprise. The rebels incorporated combined tactics to fight the Roman Army. According to some historians Bar Kokhba's army utilized guerrilla warfare, engaging Romans in surprise locations and inflicting heavy casualties with sneak attacks. Others, however claim that Bar Kokhba actually preferred direct engagement due to his superiority in numbers, and only after several painful defeats in the fields, the Romans decided to evade direct fighting and instead employ the tactic of siege on Jewish centers, taking them one by one. With the slow advance of the Roman Army and cut supplies, the rebels engaged in long-term defense tactics. The defense system of Judean towns and villages was based mainly on hideout caves, which were created in large numbers almost in every population center. Many houses utilized underground hideouts, where Judean rebels hoped to withstand Roman superiority by narrowness of the passages and even surprise attacks from underground. The cave systems were often interconnected into large systems, used not only as hideouts for the rebels, but also for storage and refuge for their families.[34] The hideout systems were widely incorporated in Judean hills, the Judean desert, northern Negev, and to some degree also in Galilee, Samaria and Jordan Valley. Some 350 hideout systems have been mapped within ruins of 140 Jewish villages in those areas as of July 2015.[

Bar Kokhba revolt

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
for Hadrian, the revolt was Rome's business as usual, and not a large matter...he was busy all over the empire during his reign, consolidating and improving the infrastructure of the empire...Hadrian is the fellow who built Hadrian's Wall in England...and he had a fascination with Greece, and Greek gods and goddesses, and Egyptian gods and goddesses too, and went about restoring and building Temples, even initiating some new religions and temples of his own, like the one to his friend Antonio...
 
Hadrian temples
 
Hadrian is best remembered for his coast-to-coast wall across northern Britain (80 Roman miles in length, ten feet thick and twenty feet high.) It was built by the occupying legions in just eight years. But in fact Hadrian was one of the greatest builders in history, building prestigious monuments the length and breadth of the empire. In Rome his works include two of its finest buildings, the Pantheon and his own mausoleum (known today as Castel Sant' Angelo). In Greece Hadrian restored numerous towns, including the decaying city of Athens. On the banks of the Nile he built Antinoopolis, the only Roman new town ever built in Egypt.
 
Temples on the Mount
Herod, Hadrian and Jupiter
Who built what, when?

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/herod-vs-hadrian.html

Oh...that site just quoted is going on about if Jesus even existed...another flea comb effort!...but it has things, and has its due...

"Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct." - See more at:

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/index.html#sthash.9BF7UFbh.dpuf

anyway, I found myself much taken with the Red Basilca...it is an immense and fascinating ruin, and I looked through many of google's images, but couldn't find a reproduction, or a model, of what it looked like inside and out originally...and I found a little notation that Lucius of the Golden Ass story by Apuleius was at the Red Basilica in Pergamon...oh!...I just about leaped up...the whole Chapter Eleven of the Golden Ass is about what went on inside the Red Basilica!...I hadn't found a model, I'd found the Temple itself, after a fashion...

golden ass novel

The Metamorphoses of Apuleius — which St. Augustine referred to as The Golden Ass (Asinus aureus)[1] — is the only Ancient Roman novel in Latin to survive in its entirety.

... ... ...

Final book

In the last book, the tone abruptly changes. Driven to desperation by his asinine form, Lucius calls for divine aid, and is answered by the goddess Isis. Eager to be initiated into the mystery cult of Isis, Lucius abstains from forbidden foods, bathes and purifies himself. Then the secrets of the cult's books are explained to him and further secrets revealed, before going through the process of initiation which involves a trial by the elements in a journey to the underworld. Lucius is then asked to seek initiation into the cult of Osiris in Rome, and eventually becomes initiated into the pastophoroi, a group of priests that serves Isis and Osiris.[8] Whether this religious ending is to be taken seriously or comically is a moot question in the interpretation of the novel.[9]

The Golden Ass

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Ass#Final_book

maybe next I can get to the war between the Greek gods and goddesses and The Giants, which was illustrated on the Altar of Pergamon...

oh...I was trying to think of a comeback to that site with its skepticism of Jesus...and the youtubes I've been perusing about the historical accuracy of the Bible...awful lot of such youtubes with Richard Dawkins going on about...anyway, there's this poem by the poet John Skelton, a favorite of Robert Graves...in fact he says the only poets ever were John Skelton and Ben Johnson, poets he meant in the tradition of the pre Christian bards...it's a grim poem, and Christian...I wont quote it, but here's link...

Upon a Dead Man's Head
John Skelton

http://www.luminarium.org/renlit/deedman.htm

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Wednesday, November 25, 2015

The Brazen Bull

A text only post, and about history, afield from fauna and flora, sort of...and grim, so dear readers, a caution to read on...

I'll put the search strings in bold, these are the beginning of a quote, and the link(s), the ulr(s), which are highlighted too, will be the quote(s) end(s)...


This post is an update of yesterday's post...I need to give the "Biblical Alarmists", those who see signs of the end times in every tree and bush of the dark forest, their due...much like the ufologists that scan ancient medieval paintings for things depicting alien spacecraft, the Alarmists have gone through the stories of ancient history with a flea comb, as it were, and they find things, things they shoehorn into their end time narrative, but things nonetheless!...having seen the story of the Brazen Bull in two old stories, of the Christian martyrs Antipas and Eustace, I thought to do a google search of the Bull...

brazen bull furnace

The bull was made entirely of bronze, hollow, with a door in one side.[3] The bull was in the form and size of an actual bull and had an acoustic apparatus that converted screams into the sound of a bull. The condemned were locked in the device, and a fire was set under it, heating the metal until the person inside roasted to death.

Brazen bull

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
 
 
Hard to tell, maybe the Bull was just a story, or maybe in the ancient world it was a common means of execution, like the Cross...what seems certain, is that when ancient cultures clashed, such things were the means of persuasion...the 700 Club has the story of Pergamon, and the Altar of Pergamon, and it is a copy/paste tale that is lensed through the end time narrative...
 
altar of satan pergamon
 
At the end of the first century, Pergamum  was a thriving city. So why does the book of Revelation call it the dwelling place of Satan? The answer lies in the ruins of the city's temples.“On one side, it was a very beautiful city,” says Renner. “But on the flip side, it was one of the darkest, eeriest cities in the whole Roman Empire.”

The Seat of Satan: Ancient Pergamum
http://www1.cbn.com/700club/seat-satan-ancient-Pergamum

700 Club take has it the Brazen Bull was at the Altar...and thereabout Antipas met his end...then there is this leap...in the 19th Century the Altar is carted off to Germany by a German archaeologist...it's still there, and it was there when the Nazi's came to power...Hitler used it as a showpiece in  Germany's bid for the Olympics...insomuch as the Book of Revelation branded Pergamon as Satan's abode, where ever the Altar is, or any similar looking thing, it's regarded as Satanic...Obama used a stage prop at the Democratic convention that looks a bit like it, looks a bit like the Capital Building in Washington too, but that isn't noted in the Alarmists' alarms...because of the prop, Obama is correlated with Satan, as is Hitler and the Germans for having the Altar in a German museum, and building a huge replica for their gatherings...as the Jews were beset by Hitler, much as the Christians were by the Pagan priests at Pergamon, there's this dovetail now in the end time narrative that the Altar is a focus of the persecution of Jews and Christians...it, it's just an old Temple displayed in a museum, but narratives like the 700 Club's can put a cast to things that is trouble trouble trouble....

In World War 2, after Pearl Harbor, a scheme was hatched to launch bombers from an aircraft carrier and bomb Tokyo...it was a tit for tat...Japan came across the Pacific and bombed Pearl Harbor, America would return the gesture...a show of our strength....that was America's narrative, and it was heroically accomplished...Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo...once having passed over Tokyo, the bombers flew on to China, where the planes were ditched, and the Crews sought refuge and rescue with the Chinese...Japan by then had defeated and occupied much of China, and some doubts were raised about what would happen to the Chinese that helped the pilots...these doubts didn't deter the bombing...and the resultant terror released on the Chinese by the Japanese was horrific...they took things out on the Chinese...

doolittle raid chinese casualties

The Untold Story of the Vengeful Japanese Attack After the Doolittle Raid

smithsonian.com
 
That generosity shown by the Chinese would trigger a horrific retaliation by the Japanese that claimed an estimated quarter-million lives and would prompt comparisons to the 1937-38 Rape of Nanking. American military authorities, cognizant that a raid on Tokyo would result in a vicious counterattack upon free China, saw the mission through regardless, even keeping the operation a secret from their Pacific theater allies. This chapter of the Doolittle Raid has largely gone unreported—until now.
 
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/untold-story-vengeful-japanese-attack-doolittle-raid-180955001/?no-ist


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The Alarmists are myopic, anyone with 'normal vision' can see that...and wherever they are, under whatever banner, they are all alike in being like bulls in a china shop...
 
DavidDavid
 
 

 
 
 

Tuesday, November 24, 2015

Gates to Hell

A text only post, and about history, afield from fauna and flora, sort of...and grim, so dear readers, a caution to read on...

I'll put the search strings in bold, these are the beginning of a quote, and the link(s), the ulr(s), which are highlighted too, will be the quote(s) end(s)...

hmmph...well, this is an 'on the fly' post...I'm not sure where it's going!...I read some of the gesta romanorum stories after doing yesterday's post, and was taken aback right away by the first...the first tale is called The Eight Pennies, and it starts out by explaining that the Emperor declares a special holiday for his first born son's birthday, and everyone must honor it, and to ensure this he asks Virgil, his court magician it seems, to fashion a Statue that stands in the City square, and this Statue can see and report everything the citizens are doing, and when they break the Emperor's rules, like honoring his son, they are put to death...well, I thought, on reading that, that is my favorite cbs tv show, Person of Interest...in that show, computers, first The Machine, and then a rival called Samaritan, observe everyone, and report potential threats, much like the Statue in this ancient tale!...the Statue appears to even have a text screen...a message appears on its forehead...

"“Friends, look up; what see ye written upon my forehead?” They looked, and beheld three sentences which ran thus: “TIMES ARE ALTERED. MEN GROW WORSE. HE WHO SPEAKS TRUTH HAS HIS HEAD BROKEN.” “GO,” said the statue, “declare to his majesty what you have seen and read.” The messengers obeyed, and detailed the cir­cumstances as they had happened. "

a common thing ufologists do is go through old medieval paintings and find things that look like aliens and ufos!...pretty simple...and I wondered if they had gone through the old medieval tales looking for examples of modern technology...what comes to mind here is the robots depicted in ancient greek stories...

ancient greek robots

Many ancient mythologies included artificial people, such as the talking mechanical handmaidens built by the Greek god Hephaestus (Vulcan to the Romans) out of gold,[1] the clay golems of Jewish legend and clay giants of Norse legend. Chinese legend relates that in the 10th century BC, Yan Shi made an automaton resembling a human in an account from the Lie Zi text.

History of robots

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
and, thinking on this, I thought to web search for modern technologies found in ancient stories, and that wasn't going well, and then I remembered the Altar of Pergamon...I've been wanting to do a post about it...it's another ancient Temple with a story...decorating it were all the Greek gods and goddesses with their various attributes and weapons...they remind me very much of modern comic book heroes...and that is what my Pergamon Altar post would be about, a comparison of the ancient heroes and modern ones...and I was on youtube looking for clip of Pergamon, and found a fringe one...this I didn't know, but apparently the altar is well known among the Armageddon Revelation Doomsday set...a Christian saint named Antipas was martyred there...and in curious fashion, as it is the same way Palcidus/Eustace and his family are martyred...inside a furnace inside a brazen bull.... 

antipas saint

According to Christian tradition, John the Apostle ordained Antipas as bishop of Pergamon during the reign of the Roman emperor Domitian. The traditional account goes on to say Antipas was martyred in ca. 92 AD by burning in a brazen bull-shaped altar for casting out demons worshiped by the local population.

Antipas of Pergamum

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
placidus furnace 
 
The emperor then has a large bronze furnace constructed in the shape of a bull in which Eustace and his family are burnt to death. When the furnace is opened it is discovered that their bodies have been miraculously unharmed by the flames.
 
Plácidus saga, edited by John Tucker.
 
 
The gesta romanorum stories are all broken up and disjointed, and the author of Placidus must have thought of the furnace bull of Antipas, and that, is just that, a curio...but the Greek Altar of Pergamon was in Turkey, and today the news is about Turkey, Turkey shot down one of the Russian's frog feet jet fighters over the Syrian Turkey border...so, so, I am standing with one foot on the shore, and one in the row boat...what in the world is afoot in Turkey?
 
news turkey
 
Russia deploys missile cruiser off Syria coast, ordered to destroy any target posing danger
 
 
news turkey pergamon
 
Is this the Gate of Hell
 
Speaking to Discovery TV channel he gave a fascinating description of what life might have been like around the cave in ancient times.
He said: 'People could watch the sacred rites from these steps, but they could not get to the area near the opening. Only the priests could stand in front of the portal.
According to the archaeologist, pilgrims arriving at the site were given small birds to test the deadly effects of the cave, while priests sacrificed bulls to Pluto hallucinating madly from the toxic fumes.


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Story has mention of another site...
 
Darvasa gas crater in Derweze, Turkmenistan
 
The Derweze area is rich in natural gas. While drilling in 1971, Soviet geologists tapped into a cavern filled with natural gas.[1] The ground beneath the drilling rig collapsed, leaving a large hole with a diameter of 70 metres (230 ft) at
 WikiMiniAtlas
40°15′10″N 58°26′22″E / 40.25264°N 58.43941°E / 40.25264; 58.43941 (The Gates of Hell). To avoid poisonous gas discharge, it was decided the best solution was to burn it off.[2] Geologists had hoped the fire would use all the fuel in a matter of days, but the gas is still burning today. Locals have dubbed the cavern "The Door to Hell".[3]
 

Derweze

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
While Biblical alarmists might point to the “Door of Hell” as yet another sign of a coming apocalypse, the phenomenon apparently has a scientific explanation.
 

Turkmenistan’s “Door to Hell”

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Monday, November 23, 2015

City Girl

a poem...

City Girl

Forgotten by the city girl, somehow,
A need for wild life.
A boy with the voice of the deer and dolphin
Lived in her city, quietly.
She found him, and thought to civilize him.
The tone of intelligent men who wrote books
Was in her voice when she spoke to him.
He learned her older name, Little Bear,
And loved her when she remembered.
She needed him, as teachers need students,
A turned around need of the forgotten one.
The voice of the deer and the dolphin
Sounded foreign to the girl who talked city.
A time came when she forgot his whereabouts,
And their conversations.

DolphinWords

that one is from the early seventies...and has a lot of interior, that is to say, personal, things in it!...anyway, it has notions that interweave through many of my posts, and the boy with the voice of the deer and dolphin became DolphinDeer, or DeerDolphin...one of my thoughtHobby collection of characters, toons and avatars as it were, that inhabit my imagination...I've named one of my World of Warcraft toons DeerDolphin, and for years I tried to imagine how to illustrate DeerDolphin, how to make a drawing of a character that is a Deer and a Dolphin, or somehow has the two combined, and found on WOW a solution...in WOW one can have 'pets', little monsters and such that follow your toon around like, a pet!...and one of these is called 'Fishy'...Fishy is a little fish, gold colored if I remember, that resides in a globe of water that floats in the air, and follows one's toon about...recently, another pet like this was added, Left Shark, and Left Shark is a little shark that is in a globe of water too...and, and, all I needed for my illustration is this idea, a dolphin in a globe of water that floats and follows, or even rides, a deer...and I have in mind to make the illustration, and when I have it drawn out, I'll post it, and more about DolphinDeer!...oh...but let me explain more of how this will look!...in Last Chance one day, in the beverage refrigerator, appeared a special beer brew with a label that depicted a Buck, a male deer with antlers, just the head looking forward, and between the antlers was a cross...Jergermeister or something it is called..brb...

deer antlers with cross beer label

The label on Jägermeister bottles features a glowing Christian cross seen between the antlers of a stag.[10][11] This image is a reference to the two Christian patron saints of hunters, Saint Hubertus and Saint Eustace, both of whom converted to Christianity after experiencing a vision in which they saw a Christian cross between the antlers of a stag.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4germeister

So, for the DolphinDeer illustration I have in mind to have the forward looking Buck with antlers, and resting, floating, between the antlers, my Dolphin in a globe of seawater!...wiki's take on the origin of the story of the vision changes from time to time...and I've tried to study out the tale on the web several times...and there is a remarkable medieval story in one of those links...lemeesee if I can find it...

Saint Eustace

A series of calamities followed to test his faith: his wealth was stolen; his servants died of a plague; when the family took a sea-voyage, the ship's captain kidnapped Eustace's wife Theopista; and as Eustace crossed a river with his two sons Agapius and Theopistus, the children were taken away by a wolf and a lion. Like Job, Eustace lamented but did not lose his faith.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Eustace

It is a remarkable story, in fact, in looking about to re-find it, the whole group of medieval stories surrounding it are remarkable, and remarkably forgotten!...

gesta romance

As he was one day following the chase, Placidus dis­covered a herd of deer, amongst which was one remarkable for size and beauty. Separating itself from the rest, it plunged into the thickest part of the brake. While the hunters, therefore, occupied themselves with the remainder of the herd, Placidus swiftly followed this deer’s track. The stag scaled a lofty precipice, and Placidus, approaching as near as he could, considered how it might be followed yet. But as he regarded it with fixed attention, there appeared upon the centre of the brow, the form of the cross, which glittered with more splendour than the noonday sun. Upon this cross an image of Jesus Christ was suspended; and the stag thus addressed the hunter: “Why dost thou persecute me, Placidus? For thy sake have I assumed the shape of this animal. I am Christ, whom thou ignorantly worshippest. Thine alms have gone up before me, and therefore I come; but as thou hast hunted this stag, so will I hunt thee.”

VIII. — PLACIDUS.
TALES FROM THE GESTA ROMANORUM
http://www.kellscraft.com/MediaevalTales/MediaevalTales03.html

DavidDavid


Friday, November 20, 2015

Fence

It was a thought to put the 2x4 stringers between the posts, but for simplicities' sake, we mounted them flush to the posts...should have used cedar 2x4s...too expensive...posts are cedar...

Hi working on the gate...

Evening of third day from start, all the slats up, and gate too...


Open gate...with three hinges and nice latch...and the surf board, though damaged, is a long board from a famous maker hereabout...if sold, it might pay for the fence!...traded a dart board for it at a swap meet...


Hi and Hanh haven't been able to tend to their plants since the arrival of Maya, my dog...now the area behind the garage is fenced off from Maya, and we can all have gardens and such here now...


Hi and Hanh...much fun making the fence with them!


































































































I still have one little section of cinder block next to the house to raise in height...some holes I found already drilled through the blocks, and tried to do it quick using them...but after three trips to home depot, a back and forth because I just eyeballed things, I still don't have the right bolt lengths...just trying to attach a 1x12 pine board crossways, and then add slats to raise height...to do it right, I should attach two crossways 2x4s, then the slats to them...I have concrete drill bits, and wood drill bits, and left over bolts and screws and such, but nothing comes to mind to make a clean job of it...standing on her hind legs, Maya's, my dog's, nose just reaches the top of this section of cinder block wall...that's too low...so, Maya is still confined to the porch...and currently thrashing around the plastic boxes. full of stuff for weight, I use to block the holes she's eating through the porch walls!...a nightly routine...and she ate through another harness...that's like the fifth...hmmph

DavidDavid

Monday, November 16, 2015

A Doe

a poem...

A Doe

At the edge of my eyes,
Movement, a doe...
I glance and see her.

I hike on the trail
Burdened by my orange pack.

The rubbing waist belt
And shoulder straps
Make a strained noise.

Eye-rings, gently, rhythmically
Tap the aluminum frame.

Her small feet make high steps
In the long grass.

The trail is flat beside the meadow
Where the stream that fell rushing over the rocks
Meanders slowly.

She keeps pace with me.

The pines thin beside the meadow.
I walk on the damp packed earth over their roots.

She follows, ears perked to my sound.

I dare only glance
From the corners of my eyes.

DolphinWords
4/14/75

Well, that one has a date...and was likely in Idyllwild up at the meadows reached by Devil's Slide trail...and, knowing does as I do now, I was probably being followed for a snack!...anyway...

Much progress with the fence!...all the poles set in drying cement...the anchor boards on the garage and back wall attached...all the material purchased...so, so, tomorrowmorrow, after putting up the slats and gate, Maya, my dog, should be able to romp about the backyard again, and play with her favorite toy, my expensive push broom!...there are weak points maybe around the other fences...never a problem before, but now she knows other side of the fence is outside!, and she'll likely test things....even an eight foot fence is no deterrent to a dog that knows how to take a running leap, catch their paws on the top, and chin up themselves over...most of the fence is eight feet or more...this new section will be six...and after watching youtubes of dogs jumping fences, I have concerns!...Hanh and Hi helped all day...I just let Hi take over, as I thought he might...

DavidDavid

Sunday, November 15, 2015

Beach Ball

a poem...

Beach Ball

Green white yellow red,
Like the slices of an orange,
Color bands on a beach ball
That the wind took away
From a child's hands
On to the Sea.
And their mother ran
Into the lapping waves
To her waist, reaching,
But the ball moved too fast,
She couldn't swim,
And her child cried,
Great tears, bawling,
Her child's little face anguished.
Two small mountains,
One to the North,
One to the South,
On the arms of the bay.
The distant fishnet boats,
Their bows to the shore,
Had swung around their anchors,
And disappeared behind clouds of dust.
The hot desert Sun, the dusty blue sky,
The wind gusting
Quartz and feldspar sand grains by my eyes.
I could barely see with just one,
And watched the ball,
So filled with air it barely touched the Sea,
Bobbing, dancing away, far away.

DolphinWords

Back when I was taking Marine Science classes in early seventies at Orange Coast College, I needed to do a field trip report, so rolled off in my just purchased Chevy LUV truck to San Felipe, which is about 200 miles down the Baja Peninsula on the Gulf side...it has terrific tides...the tide goes so far out that your can hardly see the Ocean from the Town...and it comes back in right up to the edge of Town, popular with off roaders.  I took some pics for the desultory report.   Stayed one night in my tent in a crowded RV campground...went out in a rental guided fishing boat...caught giant croakers, and gave them away to the RVers...with no rule on mufflers, it was loud, just loud loud loud all the time with the bike and 4 wheeling potatopotatopotatos!!!  My "Ed Rickett's in Baja" adventure...this one an uneventful one of two such...the other, the road's washed away from a Hurricane...a tale for sometime...

DavidDavid