Thursday, November 5, 2015

Methuselah's Berries, Silene stenophylla


A text only post, and about history, afield from fauna and flora, sort of...and grim, so dear readers, a caution to read on...

I'll put the search strings in bold, these are the beginning of a quote, and the link(s), the ulr(s), which are highlighted too, will be the quote(s) end(s),,,


Oh, another diversion from doing a post about Pericles...I came home from Best Buy with dvd movie Noah 2014...I'm much affected by movies, being sentimental, and often find myself holding back tears, either seated in the dark theater, or perched on my lazy boy throne when I visit family in front of the big dvd screen...I'm  a sap....Disney was a sap...he'd tear up watching his own movies...oh, there was the beginning of that movie with Michael Douglas...brb...Romancing the Stone with Kathleen Turner, and in the opening Turner is typing the end of her newest novel through tears as she imagines the scenes, which are fancifully being acted on the big screen...Noah is like that...it's a tear jerker...it's a sad dog story even...some in my family cant bear to watch sad dog story movies...

anyway, through my chest heaves, I was taking note of things in the movie...there are 'things' in the movie, like oft hand, I cant think of another movie with such things...there's the twin births, the patricide menace, Methuselah with the berries, and that snake skin most of all...'what in the world', I was thinking, 'how'd those things get into this movie story of Noah?'...'I'll look them up,' I thought, and, and as it happens, going on about Robert Graves and his book The White Goddess in a post a couple days back, I ordered a new copy from amazon and it had just came in the mail...and I looked for Noah in the index...book has many mentions of Noah...and I went to the first mention, pp 80-81, and not much there about Noah...thereabout Noah is appearing in one of the riddles of the collection of riddles Graves is deciphering, but, but, on page 81 there is a passage that explains the snake skin in the movie...that was unexpected!...oh, I must lay this all out to show what I'm going on about...but first the berries...the web must have something about Methuselah and berries...

Methuselah berries

The Bible says nothing about an obsession with berries.

How Biblically Accurate Is Noah?


the Bible is not the only sources of this movie's take...brb...

methuselah berries

Tell me about something really specific, like the berries Methuselah is obsessed with. Where did that come from?
That was a piece of writing, ultimately, of character building. Why berries particularly?

Sure.
Because they’re a simple pleasure, and because they are in some ways… you know, there’s a theme here about the value of the natural world, and the purity of the natural world, and the beauty of all of the things that have been created. In some ways, what’s more beautiful and perfectly delicious than a berry? And kind of fragile at the same time. But no, the berries are not mentioned specifically in Genesis.

Noah: Screenwriter Ari Handel on Rock Monsters & Berries
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oh, I can worry a thing...brb...
 
methuselah berries Torah
 
Noah found the vine which Adam had taken with him from Paradise, when he was driven forth. He tasted the grapes upon it, and, finding them palatable, he resolved to plant the vine and tend it.
 
NOAH--THE BIRTH OF NOAH--THE PUNISHMENT OF THE FALLEN ANGELS--THE GENERATION OF THE DELUGE--THE HOLY BOOK--THE INMATES OF THE ARK--THE FLOOD--NOAH LEAVES THE ARK--THE CURSE OF DRUNKENNESS--NOAH'S DESCENDANTS SPREAD ABROAD--THE DEPRAVITY OF MANKIND--NIMROD--THE TOWER OF BABEL

The Legends of the Jews

By Louis Ginzberg

[1909]


http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/loj/loj106.htm

well, on that web page I seem to have fallen into the Torah, and it has a fantastic elaborate tale of Noah...the brevity of the Bible stories in the Bible itself somewhat saves them from skeptical scrutiny...apocryphal Bible stories have fantasy about them, which explains why the skeptical destroyed so many of them...the New Testament has some surviving tales that weren't included in the Bible, and the Torah, it would seem, I haven't read it, has a lot of tales of the Old Testament that aren't in the Bible...I'm trying to think what this is like...well, there's the Christmas story of Jesus in the Bible, the heart of the holiday, and then there are all the other Christmas stories surrounding in popular movies and books...that legendary Noah story could have provided the movie Noah with much of it's materials, especially about the fallen angels, but I find no mountain berries, just the bit about the grapes...some tales have it that it was grapes, not an apple, that brought Adam and Eve grief...

Torah Noah

The parashah tells the stories of the Flood and Noah's Ark, of Noah's subsequent drunkenness and cursing of Canaan, and of the Tower of Babel.

Noach (parsha)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
hmmph...still searching the tundra and forest floor for those berries so favored by Anthony Hopkins!
 
and I've gone on too long for the snake skin bit today...for tomorrowmorrow, the flag that went before Alexander the Great...
 
oh, found them...
 
longest lived mountain plant
 
The burrows were found 20–40 meters (66–131 ft) below the present-day surface.[8] Usually the rodents would eat the food in their larders, but in this case a flood or other weather event buried the whole area. Since the rodents had placed the larders at the level of the permafrost, the material froze almost immediately, and did not thaw out at any time since.[8] More than 600,000 fruits and seeds were located at the site.
 

Silene stenophylla

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
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Read more at http://www.craveonline.com/culture/739329-noah-screenwriter-ari-handel-rock-monsters-berries#w61AgUQzlH3YgwZt.99

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