Saturday, July 21, 2018

OTI:notes:7/21/19

Open To Interpretation

Notes: game on...on the radio...Tropeano on the mound...pre-lims...El Castillio and the Dabo Pagoda...a side by side...

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It has a staircase on each of the four sides. Four stone square pillars support the pagoda's first roof, where is built a square stone railing. Inside the railing is the body of the pagoda, and above it, standing on the second octagonal-shaped roof surrounded by an octagonal stone railing, are eight bamboo-shaped stone pillars support the octagonal-shaped lotus stone carved with sixteen petals. Above it eight stone pillars support the third octagonal-shaped roof. Of the four stone lions guarding the top of the staircases only one remain.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabotap

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The pyramid consists of a series of square terraces with stairways up each of the four sides to the temple on top. Sculptures of plumed serpents run down the sides of the northern balustrade.
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The location of the pyramid is aligned at the intersection between four cenotes: the Sacred Cenote, Xtoloc, Kanjuyum, and Holtún. This alignment supports the position of El Castillo as an axis mundi.[

Chichen Itza 3.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Castillo,_Chichen_Itza

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Verlander on the mound...what?...he's 0-6 in June until now...three losses, three no decisions...Upton catches it at the top of the wall...one out...El Castillio and the Dabotap look a little, well, maybe a lot!, alike...and that's all I have...sorta...thing is, that the culture that made El Castillio, the Mayans, has been lost, sorta...there's still Mayans, lots of them, and they speak Mayan, but to ask them what El Castillio is about doesn't go far...thanks to the Spanish, the oral traditions, and knowledge of the Mayan script/writing, was forgotten...now, that's not the case with the Dabotap...it's just as old as El Castillio, but Buddhism is still around, with it's writing and oral traditions, so one could ask a Buddhist what the Dabotap is about...I think!...Astros made out...to bottom of 1st...Calhoun lead off...line up for Angels today seems solid, 'cept Pujols is absent on DL...however, no one in the line up has hit above 200 against Verlander...there are old temples all over from India to Korea and Japan...and the religions that made them still about, I gather...don't know but Buddhism reached all the way to the Middle East...two out...Trout up...2-27 against Verlander...as it happens, both hits home runs...

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Buddhism in Iran dates back to the 2nd century, when Parthians, such as An Shigao, were active in spreading Buddhism in China. Many of the earliest translators of Buddhist literature into Chinese were from Parthia and other kingdoms linked with present-day Iran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_in_Iran

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oh, reminded here of something I wanted to post about...Trout a K...to top of 2nd...

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The Mu‘allaqāt (Arabic: المعلقات, [al-muʕallaqaːt]) is a group of seven long Arabic poems that are considered the best work of the pre-Islamic era.[1] The name means The Suspended Odes or The Hanging Poems, the traditional explanation being that these poems were hung on or in the Ka'ba at Mecca.[2] The name Mu‘allaqāt has also been explained figuratively, as if the poems "hang" in the reader's mind.
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Ibn Abd Rabbih in the 'Iqd al-Farid (The Precious Necklace) states "The Arabs had such an interest in poetry, and valued it so highly, that they took seven long pieces selected from the ancient poetry, wrote them in gold on pieces of Coptic linen folded up, and hung them up (allaqat) on the curtains which covered the Ka'ba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%27allaqat

well, hooey, wiki's take has it that that about the poems is a spurious legend...there was one poem in particular I liked...Ohtani up...runner on...bunts?!...throw in time to second...fc...

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from THE POEM OF TARAFA.

42. I shake the lash over my camel, and she quickens her pace, while the sultry vapour rolls in waves over the burning cliffs.
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43. She floats proudly along with her flowing tail, as the dancing-girl floats in the banquet of her lord, and spreads the long white skirts of her trailing vest.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/arp/arp013.htm

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there's a tradition in Arab poetry of writing about camels!...and it's well done...hit and run, sorta...two runners on...Maldonado up...K...to top of 3rd...

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Translating Bedouin women’s poetry is not an easy task; the greatest difficulty is translating the untranslatable. The vocabulary is exceedingly rich and often has no equivalent in English. Women Bedouin poets have more than a hundred words to describe different types of camels and for pre-Islamic poets, the number of words exceeded one thousand.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/328763

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Tarafa was one of the seven poets said to have their poems in the Kaaba...runner on for Astros...

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The Kaaba was thought to be at the center of the world, with the Gate of Heaven directly above it. The Kaaba marked the location where the sacred world intersected with the profane; the embedded Black Stone was a further symbol of this as a meteorite that had fallen from the sky and linked heaven and earth.[
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 Prior to the spread of Islam throughout the Arabian Peninsula, there were paintings of idols decorating the walls. A picture of the Prophet 'Isa and his mother, Maryam was situated inside the Kaaba and later found by the Prophet Muhammad after his conquest of Mecca. The iconography portrayed a seated Maryam with her child on her lap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

many curios about the black cube Kaaba!...for sometime...bottom of 3rd...Angels have a lead off runner...Calhoun up...0-1...K....Fletcher reached first...don't know how...DP...to top of 4th...oh, Astros have a run...Astros 1-0...

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Until the publication of this learned paper, based on original Buddhist texts and their commentaries, no one seems to have ever ventured to give thought to such a possibility, that Buddhism had been established in a West-Asian region which was the meeting point of East West cultures in the old world, the entrepot as it were, as far back as the 6th century B.C. while Gautama Buddha was still living.

Buddhism in ancient Israel and Arabia


http://archives.dailynews.lk/2005/05/23/fea56.htm

well, that's a notion sure to annoy both Arabs and Israelis!...I dunno...how far west did Buddhism reach?...Astros got another run...make out...to bottom of 4th...Astros 2-0...

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Hi all,

I was looking at some pictures of Buddha and came along this, the hand gestures of Buddha and of a Maya maize god look almost the same. The hand is up and the other one is down:
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Now I am not the only one who across this small detail. I also found this article from 'Feats and Wisdom of the Ancients' from Timelife Books:

±:Although found half a world apart a six century Buddha and an eight century Mayan maize god exhibit mirror-image gestures. Used ritually, such hand gestures are called mudras in the Orient. Throughout the Buddhist and Hindu worlds, there are dozens of gestures and body positions with symbolic meanings, and the ancient mudras today.
Friends often greet each other with a praying hands gesture, a maudra of reverence and respect. The mudras of religious icons signal their benefit to worshipers. This Buddha's out stretched left hand says he is bestowing a gift; his upraised right hand signifies the gift is courage. Although the hand positions of the Mayan statue are reversed the similarity is thought by some scholars to be too great to be coincidence.
Indeed, the hand postures are among several similarities between Asian and New World icons that some researchers see as evidence that pre-Columbian cultures of the Americas may have been influenced by Asian visitors. Parallels have been found in costumes, headdresses, ornaments, physiques, and body positions of religious statues on both sides of the Pacific.:±
Mysteries :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,100326,100326

hmmph...this too I noted in previous posts...this post sixtythird in a series...see previous...might add, this is common gesture in ancient Egyptian art...I was looking again at wiki's take on step fret...and it had that annoying smiling figurine I keep seeing...its expression is ingratiating...Ohtani with a double!!!...and Upton to third...

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Veracruz Mexico ceramic statue

The xicalcoliuhqui motif can be seen in both the pectoral band and headdress of this statue of a performer from Veracruz.

wiki: step fret

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hard to see in pic...at site one can magnify...maybe here too...the fret on the headdress reminded me of the Lord Sipan headdress, I thought, and the one on the belt, the design the Sun Gate staff god at Lake Titicaca is standing on...

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face-lord-of-sipan-digitally-reconstructed_4

https://www.realmofhistory.com/2016/09/24/face-lord-of-sipan-digitally-reconstructed/

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Madonado K...V. struck out the side...two runners stranded...to top of 5th...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staff_God

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I went back and forth, looking, considering...came to conclusion, that the pectoral of the smiling figure is very close to the staff god's platform, and the step fret on the smiling figure's headdress not so close to Lord Sipan's headdress...but, but then I looked at more smiling face figurines...there's a lot of them!...from Vera Cruz...

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Pre-Columbian, Vera Cruz, Mexico, ca. 600 to 800 CE. A lovely head from a Sonriente (smiling figure) in buff clay of a large triangular form with a grand headdress adorned with a stylized geometric step-pattern motif and round ear ornaments. The happy visage boasts wonderful features including almond-shaped eyes, arched brows, smooth high cheekbones, and most characteristically, a toothy smile. Very Rare Terracotta Bust. Custom, museum-quality stand. Size: piece itself measures 5.25″ W x 5.5″ H (13.3 cm x 14 cm); 7.125″ H (18.1 cm) on stand.  Provenance: Ex- Private Story collection, Denver, CO

https://worthingtongalleries.com/shop/art-subject/bust/amusing-veracruz-pottery-sonriente-head-2/

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site is an auction site...come across a lot of things on auction sites...step fret isn't exactly like Lord Sipan's...a 'sorta'...but now I'm wondering what all these smiling face figurines are about...they were apparently offerings...often beheaded, broken...Astros made out...bottom of 5th...oh, Maldonado is up...had him making last out last inning...oh...Fletcher is up...did Maldonado make out?...I'm listening, guys, what's going on?...grounder to third broken bat...'let's get crack'n!'...Calhoun up...

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Ritually smashed and decapitated, the figurines were often unearthed in Late Classic burials (600-900 CE, El Tajín and Classic Veracruz culture).
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So far it is unknown what the function of these pre-Columbian artifacts was....

http://www.ancientpages.com/2018/01/29/curious-pre-columbian-clay-figurines-smiling-faces-veracruz/

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K...two out...Simmons up...Angels make out...to top of 6th...Upton dogs a long fly foul...

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Smiling figures (called sonrientes in Spanish) are one of the most intriguing examples of Mesoamerican ceramic artistry, part of a long-standing tradition of hollow ceramic figures produced in south-central Veracruz throughout the Precolumbian period. The animated expression that is responsible for their name is surprising in Mesoamerican art, where emotion of any kind is rarely depicted.



https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/313386

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home run...'predictable result'...a knock down pitch...then a pitch down the middle...batter pumped up, hit's it out...that, and Upton's gaff...Met page has good caption...can't grab pic, but the step fret like Lord Sipan's is on the skirt of the figurine...hmmph...got up for a snack, and came back to an Astro's grand slam...Astros 7-0...Astros make out...to bottom of 6th...Trout up...W...Upton up...K...Ohtani up...1-0...2-0...line drive out...Kinsler up...ground out...to top of 7th...Astro's make out...to bottom of 7th...have some Easter eggs/enigmas on deck...maybe too involved to post in short time of game remaining...archons...

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The ancient astronomy taught that above the seven planetary spheres was an eighth, the sphere of the fixed stars.[1] In the eighth sphere, these Gnostics taught, dwelt the mother to whom all these archons owed their origin, Sophia (Wisdom) or Barbelo. In the language of these sects the word Hebdomad not only denotes the seven archons, but is also a name of place, denoting the heavenly regions over which the seven archons presided; while Ogdoad denotes the supercelestial regions which lay above their control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon_(Gnosticism)

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I happened on archons looking up gnomic growth which took me to Robert Lawylor's old book Sacred Geometry...he's written a whole bunch since, and on youtube's some clips...in one, he goes off the deep end, and goes on and on about the Archons...a disembodied alien race from a destroyed 'fifth' planet in the solar system...the Archons can walk into our minds, and cause all kinds of mischief...gnomic growth for sometime...'fifth' in the sense of being earth like...apparently, once there were more earth like planets, including Mars, which was habitable...I dunno...Angels made out...to top of 8th...

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Robert Lawlor: ET Archons and Human Enslavement  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVT8BXatLSc

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visit that youtube with caution!...anyway, I thought he made up the Archons, but on google search, I find that bit about the Gnostics...the Gnostics were a religion, or something, that everyone, the other religions, seem to have hated, and erased from history...

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The Gnostic ideas and systems flourished in the Mediterranean world in the second century AD, in conjunction with and influenced by the early Christian movements and Middle Platonism. After the second century, a decline set in, but Gnosticism persisted throughout the centuries as an undercurrent of western culture, remanifesting with the Renaissance as Western esotericism, taking prominence with modern spirituality. In the Persian Empire, Gnosticism spread as far as China with Manicheism, while Mandaeism is still alive in Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

too many 'isms'...

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In 1966, at the Congress of Median, Buddhologist Edward Conze noted phenomenological commonalities between Mahayana Buddhism and Gnosticism,[32] in his paper Buddhism and Gnosis, following an early suggestion put forward by Isaac Jacob Schmidt.[33][note 16] The influence of Buddhism in any sense on either the gnostikos Valentinus (c. 170) or the Nag Hammadi texts (3rd century) is not supported by modern scholarship, although Elaine Pagels (1979) called it a "possibility".

same wiki

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two out...Trout up...too many scholars!...I don't know what happened...Angels made out...if there were scholars in pre-Columbian times in the New World, there will never be an end of the entanglement...it is all one pyramid of scholars on top of another on top of another then, in the New World, as well as it certainly is in the Old!...there's can be no un- packing them!...top of 9th...one out...I liked Lawylor's Sacred Geometry book...lots of pics...even math geometry class like exercises to do...only math I liked was geometry...

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The Nag Hammadi material contains reports of visionary experiences of the initiates, including first-hand encounters with inorganic beings called Archons. Gnostic teaching explains that these entities arose in the early stage of formation of the solar system, before the Earth was formed. Archons inhabit the solar system, the extraterrestrial realm as such, but they can intrude on Earth.
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Physical descriptions of Archons occur in several Gnostic codices. Two types are clearly identified: a neonate or embryonic type, and a draconic or reptilian type. Obviously, these descriptions fit the Greys and Reptilians of contemporary reports to a T. Or I should say, to an ET.

https://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienIntrusion.php

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Ohtani waps a second double!...Kinsler up...Saint Augustine is said to have been a Gnostic before he converted himself, and Rome in turn, to Christianity...

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Did Augustine Corrupt The Church With Gnostic Doctrine? Beyond Augustine Documentary | Jesse Morrell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc3XjS7J59c

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I dunno...watch clip this evening...sort things out!...Berseno up...base hit...Ohtani to third...

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At one point in his life, Augustine was a Gnostic. He was a member of the Manichaean religion, a syncretic, almost parasitical movement that at one point spread from Asia to the Mediterranean during the early middle ages.
He would later convert to Christianity, seemingly not finding the mechanism of discipline he craved. And he certainly wrote polemics against the Manichaeans, although his concept of predestination and platonic worldview might have been a Gnostic spill over. In fact, Augustine died denying to both critics and allies that he was still a Gnostic.
 
 
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a back and forth...question posed was if Augustine even existed...I seem to remember being assigned to read Augustine in literature class...didn't...I was a skip reader back then too...Fletcher up two out...bring Ohtani in!...Breseno to second on wild pitch...1-1...geezluezz there's a lot of weird stuff on the web!...pop out...cue the archons...
 
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