Monday, July 2, 2018

OTI:notes(2):7/2/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: game on...on the radio...Dodgers home in LA...lol...announcers announce Muncie hits a home run...but it wasn't him...batter up before him...Bellinger?...so they correct themselves...this is a major goof for announcers...Monday?...anyway, so, what happens?...next up Muncie hits a home run...back to back home runs...all good...sheesh...Dodgers running away with this one...Dodgers 6-1...Dodger announcers have an aversion to naming opposing team...as noted before...so five minutes into this listening, I don't know who they are playing!...hmmph...Pirates...napped all day...browsed a bit, trying to fill in yesterday's post's notions...this post fiftieth in a series...see previous...two out...so, so, I had in mind to search up sites going on about tocapus and quipos being Inca writing, and being like computer code, 1s and 0s...thought of DNA code, and thought to do 'dna tocapus ' search...and that just brought up all kinds of stuff about quipos and tocapus being Inca writing, along with computer code inference...single drives in another run...Dodgers 7-1...another hit...runners at the corners...in the NL West I favor the Giants, but will be content with the Dodgers winning the division...another hit...Dodgers 8-1...Taylor coming up?...don't know players on Dodgers...oh, Puig soon to come up...Puig up...he came up earlier with bases loaded...fc ground out, so an rbi...was that this inning?...they may have batted around...base hit...two more rbis...Dodgers 10-1...

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inkas script systems and post-Inkas, which are the boom of the human sciences manas, that andinologists, historians, cryptologists, specialists, ethnologists and experts in inkas, try to demonstrate in the light of historical science that before and after Inka civilization there were various writing systems in the Andes.


http://juliooliveraore.blogspot.com/2010/07/

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Pirates made out top of 5th...bottom of 5th lead off hit...Bellinger up...that search is odd...'dna tocapus' turns up things 'tocapus dna' doesn't...and it is in the images that I am able to find things on tocapus inca writing...hmmphs...haven't tried that search...yet...:)...and the search isn't bringing up dna...if I look at the All, there, there is DNA...Kemp another hit...bases loaded one out...that site has names of researchers...which goes back to when the Spanish arrived...among their number were those curious about the quipos and tocapus...some of the things I found this morning I can't find again...one clicks on an image, and another set of images open, then in that set one clicks on an image, and another set opens...see more, see more like this, google prompts...it's like clicking a fractal!...endless iterations...anyway, I saved some of the morning finds...Puig up, with bases loaded again?...think a run walked in already...rbi single...Dodgers 13-1...top of 6th?...Dodgers 14-1...

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Besides the quipu, which were used at least since the time of Caral, there were other types of writing in Tawantinsuyu. The Kilka. Inkas tokapu are one of the most advanced forms of writing the Andean world. It would be not a phonetic writing , but of ideograms representing a word or an idea, like Chinese writing, but even more complex because the colors also the meaning is expressed (there takapus which differ only in color). Despite the pioneering efforts of Victoria de la Jara and William Burns, they have not been deciphered to date. They are present in textiles, iconographies Qeros and even drawings of Huaman Poma de Ayala. In the Qosqo was a temple calledPuquin court that according to chronicles housed several tables that was painted Andean history and diversity of knowledge accumulated over thousands of years of independent development. Apparently combined naturalistic or symbolic and topakus drawings .

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Archaeologist Peter Eeckhout (2004) writes about this: "the tocapus are quadrangles filled with motifs of various colors, geometric or figurative, stylized, appearing in the form of series in tissues and ceremonial vessels of the Inca period and the beginning of the period colonial. The same motif can be represented in different color combinations and with varying orientations. Varia or also change the order of the tocapus on textiles, because sometimes form horizontal rows or are unku around the neck ". 
In conclusion, all researchers show the tocapus as symbols in textiles and wooden vessels.
 
 
 
 
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note cup has key and steps...those wooden cups, always made in pairs, were wildly popular to the Spanish, until it was suspected the designs on them were demonic, so the Spanish went about destroying them, which they had already done to thousands of textiles stacked in the Inca stone storage building...some have survived, but being of wood, most perished...more for sometime on these cups...that site is really good, has lots of references and pics...Kemp up...Kemp is eight for eight with a home run...Dodgers 16-1...another hit...double for Puig...Dodgers 17-1...
 
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same site
 
author goes on about the tocapus...and not sure since that chart is in Spanish, what it's about...text can be translated to English...originally in Spanish...amazing the computers can do this!...curious that he chooses two of the tocapus I go on about...the inca key, and the Inca army tunic...
 
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tocapu quadripartite
There tocapu divided into four equal parts, and these are, in turn, of two types: those with alternating colors, no other kind of separation between them; and tocapu divisions that have marked with frames similar to those around you, and the same color. These frames together by their sides mediatrices; design found in each of these four parts is the same but may be rotated, or espejarse alternate the color pairs, combining symmetries (Wolf & Kuhn, 1960).

same site
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he's noting there the 'squareness' as I did yesterday, oh, earlier this morning!...a dogear:...I looked up 'what 'bit' is to dna?'...or some such...thought being that dna had bits, or bytes, and one comment I found has it that it is 8-bit...others 2-bit...dna is quipo like in that it is made of strands...there's a youtube how to make a dna strand with pipe cleaners!...read somewhere that the dna strand coils up like in a ball...it is very snake-ish!...which is why the Mysterions go on about the caduceus, the two coiled snakes, being a representation of dna...don't know but the step frets as a running frieze could represent dna!...the Inca warrior tunic is a kind of fit too...checkerboard/off-on...I dunno!...the swastika has two long strands, and then four short ones, coiled...one could imagine it a representation, stylized, of dna...I divert!...Dodger announcers are giddy...game is a laugher...Dodgers 17-1...

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This fragment of double balanced fabric, that tries to be a replica, is of: two warps, and two wefts of two colors, where the smaller density between the warps allows to make a weave, in warps and balanced plots. Four pairs of warp (two forward, two back of each color) and two frames, a total of 8 threads of 2mm, for each square of the drawing on graph paper, 152 threads in 12 cm wide. The double balanced fabric, is a Textile of civilizations before the Inca Empire, among others Tiwanaku (1580 BC -45 AD), Pachacamac (200-600 AD), Chimu (1000 -1200 AD), Chancay, Ichma (1000 and 1470 d. C), P ueblos Quechua and Aymara of Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia.








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discovery of the double canvas, as it developed and traveled throughout the world. "The route of the double canvas around the world" an article published by International Journal of Applied Home Science, by Sharma, Anu , Ssuri, Mona and Bhagat, Simmi (2015).

http://textilideas.blogspot.com/2018/03/

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that site has a lot!...and that one textile has the step fret, and the inca key...note the snake like, or I'm thinking now, tadpole like, double heads on the key!...that site has the doll I posted up yesterday too...from Chancay culture...

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Not much is known about the Chancay civilization, which developed in the later part of the Inca Empire. This culture emerged after the fall of the Wari civilization. Parts of the southern Chancay area were conquered by the ChimĂș in the early fifteenth century and in about 1450 A.D. the Incas were occupying both areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancay_culture#Textiles

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to top of 9th...they made wood figurines, statues, that look like the Easter Island statues...and there's another culture that has these...which makes three I've found...four if you include Easter Island...for sometime...sprawl is setting in...for tomorromorrow I'll gather myself together and continue these threads!...batter chirping about call...Pirate down sixteen...game over on fly out...Dodgers 17-1...

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