Notes: game on...on the radio...Angels and Dodgers...line up being read...well, hmmmph...yesterday I went on:
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this to say, the ancients don't seem to have had 'tourists', or special interest hobbyists
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I had in mind the New World...Old World had Pausanias...
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He is famous for his Description of Greece (Ancient Greek: Ἑλλάδος Περιήγησις, Hellados Periegesis),[2] a lengthy work that describes ancient Greece from his first-hand observations. This work provides crucial information for making links between classical literature and modern archaeology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pausanias_(geographer)
this post fiftyfourth in a series...see previous...series is a bit of a Pausanian Tour in the style of Pausanias, I fancy...:)...
but then I found:
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Nezahualcoyotl (1403–1473) was a noted poet, philosopher, and patron of the arts. He also had a large botanical and zoological garden, with specimens of plants and animals from throughout the empire and from the more distant lands with which the Empire traded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texcoco_(altepetl)#Rulers_of_Texcoco
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So, the New World had philosopher Kings too...more on Nezahualcoyotl in a bit...loose end from two posts back...
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https://www.google.com/search?q=stone+walls+inca&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJzqzJ2IncAhUDmoMKHexPBQYQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=416#imgrc=8AYKQLc0adUlpM:&spf=1530853306355
K...that one looks like a tocapu design
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and I had in mind one of the designs at tocapus.org...brb...Dodgers made out...three up three down...Calhoun leading off...
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Flour-de-leis
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Trout up...two out...2 for last 22...another slump...had one earlier in season...bloop hit...Puig dogged it...lol...Puig's a piece of work...Upton up...another dogged play...Upton on...Trout at second...
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http://tocapu.org/tocapu/
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Angels make out...I thought it a reach too far...tocapus look a little like the polygon stone...but then I found this, and now I wonder...
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Tlaltecuhtli is described as a sea monster who dwelled in the ocean after the fourth Great Flood, an embodiment of the raging chaos before creation.[3] Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca, in the form of serpents, tore him in half, throwing half upwards to create the sky and stars and leaving the other half to become the land of the earth.
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Although the deity's name is masculine in Nahuatl, some modern scholars, notably Miller and Taube interpret some representations of Tlaltecuhtli as exhibiting female characteristics, particularly his typical pose which they interpret as the characteristic position of a woman giving birth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaltecuhtli
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hmmph...far as I've gone reaching for that...go see now if Andeans have a birth goddess motif...brb...Dodgers made out...
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As Andes cultures form modern nations, Pachamama remains benevolent, giving,[5] and a local name for Mother Nature. Thus, many in South America believe that problems arise when people take too much from nature because they are taking too much from Pachamama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachamama
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Ohtani up...0-2...1-2...K...and K...and K..."a no contact inning for the Angels"...to top of 3rd...Dodgers with one out runner...happened on a forum page that puts Tlaltecuhtli side by side with Medusa
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http://test.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread296371/pg1
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K K K...right back at the Dodgers!...that might be some kind of stat...both sides striking out back to back!...anyway, thinking on this 'birth pose'...legs spread, arms up high...it doesn't quite look like the Medusa relief...but then there is the facial expression...seeing a woman give birth may have been a kind of hidden thing...a woman thing...mid wives and female attendants only...there are Mesoamerican/Andean figurines showing birth...arms and legs out in a quadripartite pose...four directions/four elements...Angels have runners on...another hit for Trout...Upton up...fly out...to top of 4th...
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https://bastetandsekhmet.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/pranayama-breath-control-morning-haiku-and-waka-april-16-2015/
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site has pic but doesn't source it...one out...new pitcher on mound for Angels...Dodgers made out?...commercials come on and I know teams have made out!...
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https://motherhoodinprehistory.wordpress.com/2015/05/01/giving-birth-in-the-iron-age/
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no...another pitching change...a walk perpetrated it...runner on for Dodgers...down through the ages, erotica gets censored, along with images of giving birth too, for some reason...:)...K...to bottom of 4th...no score yet...I was watching a soccer match on tv, and four players had another player by each arm and leg...and they would yank back, and kind of lift the player off the ground like eskimos with their trampoline...Ohtani up...just goofing around I guess...maybe he had cramps and needed to be stretched!...spectators were looking on kind of incredulous as the four did this over and over to the poor fellow...and then, then I'm browsing, and in one of the codices, four Aztecs have a victim in the same fashion, stretching him out and taking his heart out...too grim to post pic!...Ohtani grounded out...Angels make out...to top of 5th...
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“Up to 70 people would be present when future monarchs were born, so that they could verify there had been no skulduggery such as an infant impostor being substituted in the royal bedchamber.”
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A puritan woman could expect to have upwards of 10 women around her, including her mother-in-law and a handful of neighbors.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/14/birth-practices-from-the-past_n_4399163.html
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then again, giving birth could be a public event!...Puig up...lost track of game...a walk...runners on...bunt moves runners up...one out?...
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Childbirth in prehistorical contexts is seldom considered since there seems to be an underlying assumption that this event lacks a surrounding and traceable material culture The argument here is that this is a judgement based upon the refusal to acknowledge childbirth as an important social event. Therefore material remains have not been identified as related to childbirth in the archaeological record.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/146195710000300103?journalCode=ejaa
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from an abstract...hmmph...explains why my searches are going up box canyons...Angels in trouble...pitching is going south...K...two out...base hit...two runs score...Dodgers 2-0...
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https://www.scienceandsensibility.org/blog/looking-back-in-time-what-women-s-bodies-are-telling-us-about-modern-maternity-care
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pic is un sourced at that page...face is eroded, so can't tell expression...
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https://www.bestbabyever.org/
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another un sourced pic...both look to be from India...was the whole taking out the heart bit for the Aztecs a stylized ritual of giving birth?...focus was to extract the heart while it was still beating...Andeans did this too...both to people and animals...tumi weapon...brb...
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Tumis are most often associated with Pre-Inca cultures in the Peruvian Coastal Region and in some cases with the Inca culture itself.
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Chimu and Incas were descendants of the Sun God, Inti, who was worshiped annually with an extravagant celebration known as the Inti Raymi, which is still alluded to today in the form of the Inti Raymi Festival.
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the High Priest would sacrifice a completely black or white llama. Using a tumi, he would open the animal's chest and with his hands pull out its throbbing heart, lungs and viscera, so that observing those elements he could foretell the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumi
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Angels made out...Dodgers made out...to bottom of 6th...telling the future from looking at entrails is an ancient Old World thing too...Simmons up...one out...Trout up...has the Angels' only two hits...Tlaltecuhtli is awful looking...skulls on knees and elbows...Trout hits a home run!...Dodgers 2-1...but the Mesoamerican and Andean myths are always conflating death with birth...and they didn't have make believe in their rituals...using live people for their sacrifices that were scenes in their myths about worlds being born...
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We see that she has breasts and rolls of skin indicating that she had given birth to children, so she's a mother. [Zucker] And in fact she's in a squat, which is a representation of childbirth. [Kilroy-Ewbank] And that's really interesting because she's wearing a skirt that has skull and crossbones on it-- which, for us, has negative connotations. But for the Aztecs there were greater meanings affiliated with the skull and crossbones. And in this instance, that she's wearing a skirt is something that we often see associated with midwives or fertility, so it relates to life-giving properties. [Zucker] There's a celestial aspect here too, because if we look very closely at the middle part of the skirt we can see a reference to the celestial sphere, what is sometimes referred to as the "star band," and below that we see tassels that are made out of braided snakes that end in the rattles of rattlesnakes. [Kilroy-Ewbank] Yeah, and even rows of feathers. So, elements associated with preciousness as well. [Zucker] I'm really quite taken with the fact that her knees and elbows have skulls, these monstrous forms. [Kilroy-Ewbank] These are typically called "monster joints," and we actually see these types of joints on a lot of other deities affiliated with the earth or deities associated with, say, this class of dangerous women called the Tzitzimime, who also had relationships with midwives and fertility. [Zucker] She is the earth. She is the surface of the earth, this earth lord, and associated with this spectacular myth where, every evening when the sun set, she devoured it. [Kilroy-Ewbank] And at that point the sun had to travel through the underworld, engaging in battle, and then Tlaltecuhtli would expel the sun every day, would allow the sun to rise in the morning and journey across the sky. We know these myths from 16th-century Spanish sources, but it's so exciting that archaeologists are now uncovering representations of the gods that enact them. [piano music]
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-americas/early-cultures/aztec-mexica/v/monolith-of-tlaltecuhtli-earth-lord
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top of 7th...transcript caption from Kahn take on Tlaltecuhtli....the statue...more a relief like a sarcaphogus cover, which it is...is huge!...fourteen feet wide...and recently found...and much popular with tattooists!...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaltecuhtli
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Dodgers made out...to bottom 7th...I didn't quite focus on the pic, and miss took it for the staff god...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staff_God
Strikling done for Dodgers...he was doing well!...Ohtani up...1-1...tried to bunt...hmmph...hit it out!!!...2-1...that staff got pic doesn't show the turned out Charlie Chaplin feet..it's quadripartite...sorta...a reach for sure...but the Staff god is like central to the sun ceremony of the Incas...Inti Raymi...foul pop fly out for Ohtani...another Dodger pitcher...Fletcher flies out to left...two out...Maldonado up...hmmph...I dunno...OH!...on that pic's chest is a shield with darts crossing behind it...the shield has the Aztec shield skirt...and it looks to be the design on the Mixtec kneeling warrior's chest...oh...looking to get Mixtec pic, found this one!
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http://emuseum.gardinermuseum.on.ca/objects/508/kneeling-warrior-effigy-jar;jsessionid=34290135D5E637A13C1C5BF38C0D636A?ctx=433e77a0-a6d1-4f6a-bc59-1b629114566b&idx=2
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this crouching figure is a shaman warrior, positioned as if ready to leap. He holds a club in his right hand and has a shield attached to his left wrist; his entire head is engulfed in an animal-head helmet resembling a coyote.
https://www.kimbellart.org/collection-object/rain-god-vessel
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top of 8th...apparently, 'about to leap' is a stylized pose...oh...pic is small, larger ones one web...in fact, one site has it from all sides...but the shield with darts across behind looks like the chest design...I think...:)...oh...thinking of chest designs...I found some butterfly pectorals!...these on the Tula warriors and Chac Molls that I have gone on and on about...Dodgers made out...
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Pair of bi-conical effigy incense burners. Central Mexican Highlands. Mixtec. AD 1200–1500.
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/exploring-the-early-americas/ritual-ceremonies-and-celebrations.html
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and, I can see the butterfly stylization...so have nailed down that the pectoral is a butterfly, as often captioned...but, note the steps!..nice page from Library of Congress...Simmons, Trout, Upton coming up...another reliever for Dodgers...figurines are Mixtec...hmmph...a dogear...Trout up...and, and back to Nezahualcoyotl...while looking at google images of Tlaltecuhtli, I noted one of an Aztec king wearing a cape...checked swing grounder...out...two out...took note cape looked tocapuish, and clicked to looksee...
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Nezahualpilli, ruler of Texcoco, depicted in the Codex Ixtlilxochitl wearing xiuhtilmatli (blue cape), maxtlatl, and cactli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_clothing
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Pujols up...Upton had a hit...grounder out...oh, inning over...to bottom of 8th...hard to see in small pic...larger on web...but, but the border has step frets!...painting is post Columbus...Puig hits a home run...redemption for last nite...hmmph...I'm finding it hard to find much about Nezahualpilli's tribe...though there is a lot of history written about it...it was one of the tribes allied in a triple alliance with the Aztecs...and one of the tribes that sided against the Aztecs...Nezahualpilli's town is compared to Athens...he comes across as a kind of Pericles...he died like seventy years before the Spanish arrived...but he predicted the arrival of the Spanish/foreigners to the Aztecs...Ohtani up...bottom of 9th...Dodgers 3-1...1-2...his memory is revered in Mexico to this day...one of his poems on a currency bill...town was beside Lake Texcoco...and now beneath Mexico City...so not many artifacts...I guess...K...but town was noted for its architecture...long fly out...two out...archaeologists have found where the botanical gardens were...and a study, as plants remain...swing and miss...
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My heart is sad, I am young Nezahualpilli. I look for my captains, the lord has gone, the flowering quetzal, the young and strong warrior has gone, the blue of the sky is his house. Perhaps Tlatohuetzin and Acapipiyol will come to drink the flowery liquor, here where I weep?
http://what-when-how.com/writers/nezahualpilli-writer/
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hmmph...more Dodgers/Angels tomorrow afternoon...
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