Saturday, June 30, 2018

OTI:notes:5/30/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: game on...on the radio...Angels and Orioles...advertisement on...I found the kneeling bat god...see yesterday's post...this post forty seventh in a series...see previous...as a gettyimages I can't snag it...sorta...brb...oh...first these two:

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I figured out how to save favorite sites on my Samsung tab....click on the three prong icon...click on memo...title it...save...from memo now I have a nice list of web addresses of favorites!...line up being read...Calhoun lead off,  Trout up second...

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https://goo.gl/images/hKej2a

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I thought he was on one knee...that aside, note the small shield, and the double pointed weapon in his hand...not sure what that is...and the headdress...compared to the Mixtec...pic from yesterday, and previous on and ons!

Image result for zapotec figurines camazotz gettyimages

on his chest he has what one of these guys has....Angels made out...Skaggs on the mound...two runners on, first and third bottom of 1st...

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mixtec pottery vessels...google search...
https://www.google.com/search?q=mixtec+pottery+vessels&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG4YDNmvzbAhUEWqwKHYxRC2kQ_AUICygC&biw=1038&bih=398#imgrc=mtqTheRhg5tvpM:&spf=1530389886464

Date: 1200–1500
Geography: Mexico, El Chanal area
Culture: Nayarit
Medium: Ceramic
Dimensions: H. 9 5/8 x W. 8 1/4 in. (24.4 x 21 cm)
Classification: Ceramics-Containers
Credit Line: Purchase, Louis V. Bell Fund, 1993
Accession Number: 1993.16.1, .2

https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/1993.16.1,2/

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the 'Mixtec' is captioned as being possibly Nayarit...hooey...changed radio batteries and come back to game on 'two runs for B'mor'...hmmph...the similar chest symbol says the Mixtec is from Mixtec Mexico, not Moche Peru...which is weird as it looks so much like the Moche kneeling warriors...well, not so weird if one pre-supposes contact between Peru and Mexico...extensive contact...but gathering Easter eggs, evidence, one shouldn't pre-suppose...y'know, there is a real back and forth among the scholars about diffusion and convergence...like a plot in a law and order drama, both sides promote evidence for their narratives!...Orioles made out...Orioles 2-0...top of 2nd...one out...Nayarit figures have the wizards cone hats...

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Some scholars believe the figurines depict gods, while Christopher Beekman of the University of Colorado Denver suspects that they may in fact represent the people with whom they were buried. Certainly the designs were intended to communicate identity and status, particularly considering that the figurines appear to have been used in ceremonial contexts, and also set up in residential areas to be seen and visited. According to Beekman, it is notable that the tattooing occurs prominently around the mouth, which may refer, as it does in Classic Maya society, to the breath of life or the capacity of polished speech of these individuals.

https://www.archaeology.org/issues/107-features/tattoos/1357-mexico-jalisco-nayarit-Colima

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the Nayarit figures look to have the symbols of the Mixtec kneeling warrior...thought is they are from the same 'school'...all these cultures had schools, teams of artists that worked together, and each had particular styles...nowadays artists are kind of off on their own, though their works often fall into categories begun by some school...for sometime the import of this!...the girls in the palace that wove the Inca kings' tunics were a 'school'...a captive one of sorts...Orioles made out...to top of 3rd...Kinsler up...1-2...browsing Nayarit figurine images...Kinsler with lead off hit...two out...Kinsler on second...here's like the best model house I've seen...showing the geometric designs on the roof....

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Model House Nayarit Mexico 200 BCE - 300 CE Ceramic and Pigment (mharrsch) Tags: sculpture house chicago museum ceramic mexico illinois model nayarit artinstituteofchicago 1stcenturybce 1stcenturyce 2ndcenturyce 2ndcenturybce 3rdcenturyce mharrsch

https://hiveminer.com/Tags/museum%2Cnayarit/Timeline

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Calhoun makes out...to bottom of 3rd...the Nayarit make models...note the spectators sitting arm in arm...I look at this and feel like I'm out at the stadium!...

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Artist: Unknown

Model of a Ballgame with Spectators

100 B.C.–A.D. 250
Ceramic with pigment
15 x 26 x 45.1 cm (5 7/8 x 10 1/4 x 17 3/4 in.)
Stephen Carlton Clark, B.A. 1903, Fund
1973.88.26
Culture: 
Mexico, Nayarit, Ixtlán del R’o Style
Period: 
Protoclassic Period
Classification: 
Sculpture
Status: 
On view

https://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/10950

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now, back to the Temple of Columns, Zapotec, and the Temple of the Moon, Cao's temple, Moche...I've noted their square, boxy look...see yesterday's post...and I was looking again at Mexican temple tops...Mayan Aztec and such...on the pyramid tops there is a house with a roof which looks to have once been thatched, or stylized...I was wondering if they had designs...likely so...reproductions of Tiahuanaco show them on the platform pyramids...and then, and then I noticed that the little houses on top of the pyramids have the self same look of the Column and Moon temples...Trout leads things off top of 4th...

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La Iglesia (The Church) at Chichen Itza



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This photo of Chichen Itza is courtesy of TripAdvisor

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Pujols up...one out...note the step frets...and banded friezes...and the boxy look..."Simmons bounces one through the left side"...rbi...Orioles 2-1...two out...

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Chichen Itza 3.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chichen_Itza

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note the 'box' on top...likely the steps had friezes...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Castillo,_Chichen_Itza

the famous feathered snake shadow on the solstice...Angels made out...Orioles made out...top of 5th?

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Chichen Itza Temple

http://xfrog.com/gallery/architecture/tmple_jag_colortest18_comp_small.jpg.php

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Kinsler up...hard to find close ups of the temples!...but this reproduction shows what I'm noting...these running friezes are stylistically much like the Zapotec Temple of the Columns...Kinsler got on and moved on to third from Fletcher's bloop single...two on one out...Calhoun up...note how the frieze with the three dots alternates...interlocked...this just like the Temple of Columns...using search...mayan temple friezes...two out..."unproductive at bat"...hmmph...Trout up...Trout walks...bases loaded...from 3-0 to 3-2 swing at bad pitch, low...hmmph..to bottom of 5th...Orioles 2-1...there...I found one...with the step fret no less...

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File:Uxmal, Governor's Palace.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Uxmal,_Governor%27s_Palace.jpg

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I, I got to wondering if the cultures, the artists, were getting their frieze designs, the step fret in particular, from snakes...the patterns snakes have on their skin...the Aztec's stylized the rattle snake into their pyramid friezes...

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Detail of the pyramid, showing the alternating "Tlaloc" (left) and feathered serpent (right) heads. Note the long undulating feathered serpents in profile under the heads.

The Feathered Serpent Pyramid is a six-level step pyramid built in the talud-tablero style. The outside edges of each level are decorated with feathered serpent heads alternating with those of another snake-like creature, often identified as Tlaloc. Nevertheless, Mary Ellen Miller and Karl Taube claim that these heads may represent a "war serpent",[5] while Michael D. Coe claims, somewhat similarly, that they probably represent the "fire serpent" wearing a headdress with the Teotihuacan symbol for war.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Feathered_Serpent,_Teotihuacan

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The term Teotihuacan (or Teotihuacano) is also used for the whole civilization and cultural complex associated with the site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teotihuacan

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top of 6th two out...hmmph...Teotihuacan has the Aztec frieze too...let me see if I can get the Aztec one...hmmph...computer locked up by the virus program thing...click on this to get this and one can't click away from it!...had to restart...top of 7th...well, no, it was on this pyramid that I saw the rattlesnake frieze...its distinctive tail...cool...found reproduction...

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https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pir%C3%A1mide_de_la_Serpiente_Emplumada#/media/File:Facade_of_the_Temple_of_the_Feathered_Serpent_(Teotihuac%C3%A1n).jpg

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top frieze has the rattle...Angels made out...Orioles up bottom of 7th...have runners...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templo_Mayor

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Temple Mayor--Aztec...note the base relief of the warriors...in squares...wont post it up...too grim...but the base relief of the Aztec skull racks has each skull in a square box...and Aztec iconography is full of rattlesnakes...hang on to the little warriors...Orioles make out...to top of 8th...oh!...wait...look what I found just trying to get to the sun gate at Lake Titicaca!

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Iñaq Uyu dates back to around 1000 C.E. to 1500 C.E.[4] Like the other archaeological sites, Chinkana and Pillkukayna, Iñaq Uyu is located on an island of Lake Titicaca; however, Iñaq Uyu is situated on the Isla de la Luna, rather than the larger Isla Del Sol where Chinkana and Pillkukayna are situated.

Templo ilha da lua detalhe.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C3%B1aq_Uyu

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Calhoun makes out...0-8 in lead off spot last two games...Trout up...that's the Inca Warrior tunic checkerboard, albeit upside down...hmmph...Trout walks...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_of_the_Sun#Figures_on_Gate_of_the_Sun

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the ruins at Lake Titicaca are all boxy...lots of tocapu square designs...beneath the staff god's feet is the two headed dragon/snake...the lower frieze is a two headed stylized snake/dragon too...I don't know if the Aztec warriors are a motif lifted from the winged warriors...a maybe!...anyway, it was too much to think that the step fret would show up on a Peruvian snake skin design...Pujols waps one off the wall...Trout scores...Angels 2-2...and, and it almost does...

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Lachesis muta muta.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lachesis_(genus)

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Young up...bases loaded...1-1...Bushmaster...makes me woozy just looking at the pic!...snake scales like in basket weaving lend themselves to that jaggedy step design...almost a double play...a tailor made double play ball dogged by the third baseman...fc rbi for Young...Angels 3-2...infield hit...bases loaded again...Maldonado hit by pitch...three walks, hit batter, dogged play...Orioles fall apart...Angels 4-2...and a 2 rbi hit...Maldonado out going to third...Angles 6-2...

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"The Incas equated the amaru to a huge anaconda"

"The rainbow is still described as a two headed amaro(u)"

"Lake Titicaca was thought to be surrounded, or guarded, by a giant snake."

Handbook of Inca Mythology

By Paul Richard Steele, Catherine J. Allen

https://books.google.com/books?id=6Wa9RwqdqEkC&pg=PA96&lpg=PA96&dq=inca+rainbow+boa&source=bl&ots=hKYB1-APPf&sig=0rkKuKmZmsVnz0O2C38oS2_JkkQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsx7_8vPzbAhUFZawKHQgDApkQ6AEISTAI#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Incas imported the anacondas from the Amazon, kept them as pets, fed prisoners to them...which accounts for all those icons of figures being swallowed, or disgorged, by snakes...but, those are Mayan too?...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(symbolism)

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Orioles made out...to top of 9th...the Greeks didn't know of man swallowing snakes...though a natural step from seeing how snakes dislocate their lower jaws to swallow animals much larger than themselves leads to imagining such...thinking of famous pic on pottery of Jason in Golden Fleece Dragon's mouth...one out Trout up...so, looking at boa skin design, I happened on the Inca Rainbow Boa...available from pet stores...

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Epicrates cenchria is a boa species endemic to Central and South America. Common names include the rainbow boa,[2] and slender boa. A terrestrial species, it is known for its attractive iridescent sheen caused by structural coloration.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_boa

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it, it has the 'eye' motif of the olin glyph...and art style of many of the culture's schools!...patches of color outlined in black...I mean, just going through google images of the rainbow boa, I can 'see' the Mayan's art...that it has a rainbow iridecents had to make it special...Angels made out...Parker on mound...one out...one out base runner...

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from Cao's temple...Moche...and here's Nasca, killer whale?

Image result for nasca art pottery

https://www.google.com/search?q=nasca+art+pottery&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwmpnjwvzbAhVMmK0KHXF5DdQQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=416#imgrc=qoVse1n-o789vM:&spf=1530400673111

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Orioles make out...Angles 4-2...not a pleasant game to win...Orioles, and Baltimore, are really struggling...the big round eyes are like snake's eyes...always open...a reach...but there is something to the patches of color with black outlines...for tomorrowmorrow!...oh wait...have ticket to see Carah Faye in Los Angeles tomorrow (check that, ticket is for July 1st)...maybe time before that for game and post...thought to combine show with trip to LACMA...they have Mesoamerican things!...

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DavidDavid









Friday, June 29, 2018

OTI:notes:6/29/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: game on...on the radio...Angels and Orioles...top of 1st...two runners on two out...Trout had a home run?!...Valbuena K...to bottom of 1st...Angels 1-0...well, to continue where I left off yesterday...this forty seventh post in a series...see previous...Senora de Cao's youtube video...Inca Key...two headed snakes...two headed dragons...amaru...Temple of the Moon...Temple of the Columns...(Moche, Zapotec)...lead off single for Orioles...step fret...Camazotz (Bat god)...kneeling warriors...well, let's get started!...lol...first I have to try and take pics of that Cao youtube...take a bit..brb...Orioles made out...

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Yesterday, I left off with: "for sometime, I want to connect those two headed snakes/dragons of the Moche, the two figure heads of the reed boats,  with the Incas, and the Inca Key tocapus"...


and after posting, I watched this youtube clip...at the very end, at the very top!, there it is?!...go figure...note the stylized head...more on that below...


and incidentally, the recreation shows the Moche tocapu design wall...

prisoners being led to the top for sacrifice...


the temple recreation...lowest rows are prisoners roped together...Temple resembles the Zapotec Temple of the Columns...see more on that below!

the tomb scene recreated...note the step fret on the left...


















































La dama tatuada de Cao - Documental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS4wkkWIJQU

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hmmph...that took some doing...and while editing, pics and text keep moving around!...bottom of 4th...Angel 3-0...let me go get the Inca Key...oh!...and the t-shirt with the step fret...


https://www.elbrujo.pe/en/blog/moche-culture-t-shirts/

design is taken from the a wall in the tomb scene...I call it a step fret...but it has more to it than the usual step frets...note the triangular head with eyes...and the second head too with eyes...more on that in just a sec!...the Inca Key...


from 6/15/post

bottom of 5th...one out...Pena on mound...looking for the double headed dragon/snake, I found this at this site:

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I suggest that you read this very interesting article (in Spanish) and take a look at the images depicting the snake-like inscriptions that can be found in the Aguada Culture's (Diaguita people) pottery from Argentina.

Cryptid Snakes, an Andean myth imported into Patagonia

http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/02/snakes-andean-myth-imported-into.html

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top of 6th...lead off double for Simmons...game is moving so fast I'm not going to get to everything!...so, I clicked on that link, and found this:

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González (1998) classifies the ophidian motifs in: simple ophidians (sometimes forming frets), complex ophidians and amphisbanes, guardians of multiple heads of ophidians and motifs of triangles and hooks.

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In this proposal the simple ophidians are always schematic, with triangular heads that have two circular eyes as the only feature. The bodies, of straight contours, are filled with straight lines. These ophidians combine to give rise to quadruple images that form frets.



A first approach to the serpentine motifs of the iconography Aguada del NOA
Débora M. Kligmann and Elena Díaz País


http://www.scielo.org.ar/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1850-373X2007000100005

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there's a bunch of illustrations at the site...they don't match up precisely with the t-shirt...but they do have the triangle stylized heads...and one can see how these two headed snake motifs morph into the step fret...the step fret represents two snakes intertwined...'why does it always have to be snakes?!'--Indian Jones...hmmph...on to the Zapotec Temple of the Columns...Angels score three more runs...Angels 6-0...to bottom of 6th...

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Mitla, Friezes on the northeast corner of the Column Group (Grupo de las Columnas)

https://greg-willis.com/2017/ruins-oaxaca-mexico/

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The main distinguishing feature of Mitla is the intricate mosaic fretwork and geometric designs that profusely adorn the walls of both the Church and Columns groups.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitla

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the Temple of the Columns is in Western Mexico...Cao's Temple of the Moon...think that's what it is called!...is on the North West Coast of Peru...both have the friezes...the frets...and an over all self similar look...and likely a bunch of other things...I got to searching more on the Mixtex kneeling on one knee warrior...yesterday's post...went on and on about it being an anomaly....it looks Moche, but not quite, and said to be Mixtec...that Mixtec warrior is a thoughthobby!...I wonder if it is a modern fake...but I dunno...looking about, I found the Zapotec version of the Bat god...that there was such a thing!...lol...we have Dracula, they had a bat god...brb...oh...first this guy...Angels have Pujols on third...one out...I'm missing some fun run scores!...hmmph...first this guy I found with the zapotec figurines search...I was just going through all the cultures trying to find matches of kneeling warriors!...

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zapotec-warlord-figurine-atzompa

https://www.archaeology.org/issues/81-1303/trenches/526-zapotec-atzompa-warlord-painted-figurine

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right there on the loin cloth tocapu is the step fret...now to the bat god, Camazotz...bottom of 7th...

Image result for zapotec figurines camazotz gettyimages
the Mixtec...for some reason, keeps showing up in the bat god searches...is it his headdress?

top of 8th...Angels 6-0...well, I can't find it...I wrote down the link, but not enough...Maldonado with home run...Angels 7-0...it was a gettyimages of a kneeling warrior with the shield and the gaping headdress--the bat god...the caption saying it was Camazotz...oh where is it!...oh...this little guy has the thatched roof geometries I saw on pre Columbian house models...
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from google images zapotec figurines search...bottom of 9th...hmmph....

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from gettyimages

one out bottom of 9th...I rolled out to the Park last night...needed to re-new my yearly pass...and got a snack, and bought a souvenir...sorcerer's apprentice hat...mickey mouse ears on either side of star and moon spangled cone...I'll keep looking for that kneeling bat god...for tomorrowmorrow...and the rest of the easter egg scavenger list above continued...one out...two out...three out...'Angels come away with a victory, Angels 7-1'...

:)

DavidDavid









Thursday, June 28, 2018

OTI:notes:6/27/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: game on...on the radio...no score yet...bottom of 1st...Angels and Boston...Boston makes out...to top of 2nd...yesterday was "over the half way point"...81st game for the Angels...season is 160 games long...this post like 46th in a series...see previous...Pujols up...some light rain in Boston...moche stylization...I was looking at the step fret T-shirt...Fletcher two out single...

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https://www.elbrujo.pe/en/blog/moche-culture-t-shirts/

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there are like 'eyes' on the design...so, so maybe the step fret is a stylized creature, or two intertwined!...another version I saw made me think of a lion's curled tail...and I thought maybe the steps represent teeth...a curled tail and teeth for the step fret...often things get stylized to the point that they're first representation is forgotten...Angels made out...bottom of 2nd...I one finger type...and an odd thing is I can do it without looking...unless I think too much about what I'm doing...finding the keys I mean...an aside!...one out double for Boston...the letter A can be traced back to the Egyptian pictograph for a bull...Boston made out...Angels up...have a runner...Fletcher I think got a hit...Ohtani took batting practice...soon to be back in the lineup as DH hitter...hooey...long fly out for Hermesillio...Barria is pitching for Angels...Senora de Cao...Kinsler two out single...no runner on before...Trout up...Cao was covered with tattoos...sometimes called the Tattooed Sorceress Queen...

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https://www.google.com/search?q=senora+de+cao+tattoos&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifotW5yPfbAhUMWK0KHS4FCqgQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=368#imgrc=IO4Dbxj8uvyAgM:&spf=1530230396235

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this another google images snag...search: senora de cao tattoos....it links to this article, but site doesn't show image...'Fig. 2'...Angels made out...to bottom of 3rd...

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This woman, approximately 25 years old, with a height of 1.48 m had an abscess on the wisdom tooth and her death occurred in a postpartum stage, perhaps an eclampsia.
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It is surprising the comparison of the power insignia of the Lady of Cao with the character "D" of the "ceremony of sacrifice", central theme of the Moche iconography. In the narrative sequence, the blood of the executed prisoners is offered to the high dignitary who heads the ceremony.
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For a long time, archaeologists assumed that the characters of this central ceremony were mythical figures, however, the identification of these individuals apparently masked or transfigured, were found in their own graves; for example: the character "A" to whom the blood cup is given corresponds to the lord of Sipán, the character "B" corresponds to the Priest Owl (both tombs discovered in Sipán), the character "C" corresponds to a priestess whose tomb It was discovered in 1991 by Luis Jaime Castillo on the site of San José de Moro, and the character "D", which was still unknown until a few years ago, corresponds to the Lady of Cao, but it is necessary to differentiate between the genre and the chronology of the iconographic representation that has been mentioned with the Lady of Cao (Franco 2012).

http://www.arqueologiadelperu.com/tag/el-tatuaje-de-la-senora-de-cao/?print=print-search

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apparently, these lords and ladies of the Moche, role played...I was searching 'moche iconography'...Young catches Mookie's fly out...to top of 4th...

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The burial theme depicted on Moche pottery includes four scenes, including the burial scene, the assembly scene, and the sacrifice scene, the conch shell transfer.

http://rla.unc.edu/Teaching/mocheicon/index.html

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these ceremonies were known from the vase illustrations...then when they found the mummies, the mummies' costumes matched up with the illustrations...Home Run for Simmons...Angels have the lead...went out over the Green Monster...Angels 1-0...that, that's very strange...my whimsy is that the ancients were playing video games when in their altered states!...lol...there's a stylization I want to track down...Young up...pic from yesterday...

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Image result for lord of sipan mural
https://www.google.com/search?q=lord+of+sipan+mural&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWgrnWj_XbAhVR-qwKHR_YBlkQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=368#imgrc=M_k7emXMfPwQsM:&spf=1530146440787

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one thing to note about that mural is that it is a fractal!...big curly wave with little curly waves!

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"swirls within swirls"
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Cyberneticist Ron Eglash has suggested that fractal geometry and mathematics are prevalent in African art, games, divination, trade, and architecture. Circular houses appear in circles of circles, rectangular houses in rectangles of rectangles, and so on. Such scaling patterns can also be found in African textiles, sculpture, and even cornrow hairstyles.[32][81] Hokky Situngkir also suggested the similar properties in Indonesian traditional art, batik, and ornaments found in traditional houses.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal

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A logarithmic spiral, equiangular spiral or growth spiral is a self-similar spiral curve which often appears in nature. The logarithmic spiral was first described by Descartes and later extensively investigated by Jacob Bernoulli, who called it Spira mirabilis, "the marvelous spiral".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithmic_spiral

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then, again, the step fret might represent "the marvelous spiral"...lol...but what I want to track out is those four plume like things on the wave monster in the Moche mural...I've seen them in the bean warrior illustrations...where are they?...top of 5th...Bresinillio up...broken bat comebacker...one out...Trout hit by pitch...runners first and second two out...

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http://rla.unc.edu/Teaching/mocheicon/pages/sealhunt.html

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from the Moche Iconograhy site...a seal hunt...maybe it wasn't the bean warriors where I see the four plumes...K...to bottom of 5th...maybe they are whiskers...even walrus whiskers...no...no walruses in Peru...I think...Boston trouble...scored...Mookie up...Boston makes out...Angles 1-1...to top of 6th...this is the pic where I saw the four plumes...another pinterest google images snag...

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Image result for moche fishing

https://www.google.com/search?q=moche+fishing&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=jF4J1w--kLkbjM%253A%252CUfBID7qAxJtm5M%252C_&usg=__5Ut6gZ9NWB4zBZpsyrb2HhWLono%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTq-TM1PfbAhVEX60KHZ4sCU8Q9QEIKzAA#imgrc=jF4J1w--kLkbjM:

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for sometime, I want to connect those two headed snakes/dragons of the Moche, the two figure heads of the reed boats,  with the Incas, and the Inca Key tocapus...note the tunics on the sailors...the Inca King's Warriors tunics again...Pujols up...full count...

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Untapped Cities Design for Eternity AFineLyne

https://untappedcities.com/2016/01/13/design-for-eternity-exhibit-gives-a-rare-view-of-life-and-death-in-the-ancient-americas/

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I was looking for Andean Mesoamerican thatched roofs!...thought was the steps in the step motifs came from weaving thatched roofs...rather than from weaving baskets...the nature of the materials making the jagged steps...and, low and behold, I found pre Columbian house models with the tocapu designs on their roofs and sides...now, I don't know if the artist just thought to paint those on, or was indeed faithfully representing what the roofs looked like...normally, thatched roofs are just a shaggy tan color...I looked about, because I remember seeing thatched roofs with designs...and found myself in Papua New Guinea...hmmph...anyway...the vessel on the left has the Inca Warrior tunic steps...the one in the middle looks to have frets/spirals...Angels made out...bottom of 6th...pitching change...Barria did good again...leaves with runner on first...I think Boston is up 2-1...maybe the warrior tunic steps are related to roofs!...those Nabataean tombs in Saudi Arabia have the steps at top--roof like!...on the right in back in pic is a step fret vessel...ball off the green monster...runners first and third one out...I cant see the labeling...but the stirrup vessels are likely all Moche...Mayan and Mesoamericans didn't have stirrup vessels...oh...before I forget it...back away I posted pic of a kneeling warrior covered with symbols, labeled as Mixtec...it's not...my searches only turn up kneeling on one knee Moche warriors...back to back walks and a run walks in...Boston 2-1...hoot...run will be charged to Barria...'on the hook for a loss'...Angels bullpen is like the butt of all the commentary jokes in the mlb youtube clips!...and then Alverez turns a comebacker into a double play...bullpen is 'hot and cold'...hmmph...oh...vessel on left, in back, has geometric designs on the roof...which suggests, if it's Moche, Moche houses had geometric decorations on sides and roofs...which makes sense...Greek stone temples often carried forward the look of previous wood temples...they know this from models of temples they find...wood doesn't last...thatch either!...so, hard to determine this...top of 7th...one out...I posted this guy yesterday...

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or one like him...image from google images, search, moche kneeling warrior....here's another...note what I thought might be mushrooms on his forehead...one magic mushroom is famous for having red spots...but, but, I find, the spots might represent round metal plates that the warriors wore for armor...on their tunics...I dunno...

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here's one with a bunch...

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this one has the red dot on his shield...so likely this is a clan emblem...

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Moche had square and round shields...

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link to where in google images these came from...

https://www.google.com/search?q=moche+kneeling+warriors&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ0N-V3PfbAhVjmK0KHXeeDTcQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=368&dpr=1.3

two run homer for Boston...just one out...Boston 4-1...the 'Mixtec' ....

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pic is small...so hard to see...Trout up top of 8th...walks...'Trout is on for the third time'...Angels have had runners...here's wiki's bigger one...

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http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Pre-Columbian_art

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well, well, here I was all puffed up thinking I found an error in captioning!...that, that Mixtec warrior is a Moche figurine...I mean, look at the pose, the little shield...it's all there, and yet it's not...too many symbols...none looking very Moche...and the headdress...is that Moche?...but then again, if one looks closely, at the eyes especially, one can see a kind of peppermint candy, red and white, design...that I've seen a little bit on Moche pottery...Trout scores on Pujols punch single...two on...Boston 4-2...Simmons up...low liner caught...for sometime is the white toe and finger nails!...I find that on a lot of the figurines everywhere...crash into the green monster and left fielder snags fly out...hmmph...'game changer'...Valbuena pinch hit...first pitch pop up...to bottom of 8th...well, Barria no longer pitcher of record thanks to Pujols' rbi...wont get the loss...Parker on the mound...pitcher number four for Angels...one out...grounder to Pujols...warrior has the teeth fangs of the Moche Decapitator...which is the altered state expression (update while spell checking: maybe not teeth, but the pupae...see following)...along with tongues hanging out...one odd thing is the Moche figurines sometime have fly pupae tattooed on their chins...Kahn academy take has it this represents the figure is a sacrificial candidate...their take is in this clip...

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-americas/south-america-early/moche-culture/v/moche-portrait-bottle

but I've seen the pupae thing else ware...Boston made out...top of 9th...Boston 4-2...

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Vase (in form of seated figure) made of pottery.

His facial adornment may have been painted or tattooed and he wears a string of small shells across his chin.
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Beneath a line traced across the chin hangs a row of flies emerging from their pupal cases, perhaps alluding to beliefs about that flies that mysteriously emerge from within corpses that have been left exposed to the elements following sacrifice.

http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=480109&partId=1

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Calhoun walks...Kinsler up...lol...British Museum has two captions...the curator's the one that goes on about the flies, which is same as Kahn's about another figurine...a wish that all the figurines and such on the web had curators' comments!...chased and missed...K...Trout up...0-1...in fact, looking at that, Kahn likely quoted that curator in their clip...same words...1-2...K...hmmph...cue the flies...on to B'mor...try to make sense of this post's sprawl tomorrowmorrow!

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