Sunday, June 24, 2018

OTI:notes:6/24/18

Open To Interpretation

Notes: game on...on the radio...Pena on the mound...Jays and Angels...prelims...so, so, I find that high up in the Andes,  Andeans collect and cultivate potatoes/tubers with enthusiasm...Jays up...couple out...maybe one...two!...trying to find site I was at early this morning...thought it was called the 'Seed Goddess'...maybe add 'of the Andes'...Jays made out...to bottom of 1st...Kinsler out...Trout up...'women farmers in the andes' brings up articles like it...but that one I read had a good quotable!...fly outs...too many fly outs!...swinging for the fences...Angels made out...to top of 2nd...lead off single...K...one out...found it...Jays causing trouble...runners on...

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"Here's a typical family picture." Flores held a slide up to the light. Mother, father, grandfather, three children, and a dog stand by a sunny stone wall, the angular Andean landscape opening out behind them like successive stage backdrops—hills, fields, far-off cliffs. At their feet are piles of potatoes. Father holds up a knuckle-shaped tuber. Grandfather and two of the children grasp green stalks. "They love for us to take pictures of them," Flores said, "but they never have their pictures taken without their plants."
Images of the pre-Columbian fertility god show the deity with arms outstretched, potato plant in each hand.
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Another slide: a tumble of reds, pinks, purples, browns, oranges, yellows, whites. Shapes like buttons. Pinecones. Eggs. Joints. Some tubers are wrinkled, some are smooth, some waxy, others dull.
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"Each community maintains its own varieties," he continued, "but they also exchange with each other. They have something like a farmer's market. People from a number of communities will meet in the towns. One woman will come in and display her stuff, another will come along with her bag full, and they'll exchange. It's completely a barter system. There's no exchange of money. It's just tuber for tuber, tuber for vegetable—both to eat and to plant. Usually they exchange different things, but they also exchange varieties within a species. That's what we want to understand. Why are they keeping one variety and not another?"

Keepers of the Seeds

January 1, 1997

https://news.psu.edu/story/141438/1997/01/01/research/keepers-seeds

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'Eggs'...Pena strikes out the side and gives up a three run home run...Jays 3-0...bottom of 2nd...Pujols up...made out...Valbuena up...fly out...Simmons...pop out...to top of 3rd...found the potato stories thinking to find Inca seed myths...compare them with Mesoamerican seed myths...oh...prior to that I found something more about the step fret that I've gone on and on about...this post like forty second in a series...see previous...I was looking at Tlatilco culture figurines, and found this one:...

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File:Mixtec Rain God Vessel Kimbell.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mixtec_Rain_God_Vessel_Kimbell.jpg

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figurine is covered in a fashion I saw on the Nasca two spout step fret jug I saw and posted up...

Image result for step fret nasca two spout

the jugs on the web are always said to be from Nasca culture...but looking close at the pics on them...

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Iconographic Features:  A. decapitation scene. Three elaborately costumed warriors, two of them decapitate their victims by using an obsidian knife (?) (left) and a brass knuckle-like weapon (center bottom). Two of the warriors are dressed as (supernatural) birds (Crested Bird, Inca tern, condor?) (left and right), the third (center bottom) is dressed as Killer Whale Mythical Being/Feline Killer Whale. They are surrounded by (Rayed) Faces with "Snake Eyes" and parts of the equipment of the defeated warriors (headdress, spears). Blood is represented by (black!) spots. One of the defeated warriors (center bottom) wears a fox skin similar to the ones of Moche warriors.

B. decapitation scene. Three elaborately costumed warriors, one of them decapitating his victim by using a brass knuckle-like weapon (right). Two of them carry trophy heads (left, bottom). All three are dressed as (supernatural) birds (egret, guanay cormorant?). The warrior on the right wears a Wari headdress. They are surrounded by (Rayed) Faces with "Snake Eye" and spears. Blood is represented by (black!) spots.
Related Themes:  Click link to see related item(s) CL 223, 376, 377, 378, 380 

http://research.famsi.org/nazca/nazca_list.php?&clnum=54,%2062,%20248,%20325,%20329,%20331,%20379

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Angels make out...to top of 4th...well, hmmph...that site is convinced they're Nasca, but, but, the illustrations look more like Mixtec/Aztec...the Mixtec were noted as goldsmiths...Jays flying out too...make out...to bottom of 4h...

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The Mixtec – Mysterious Very Advanced Culture Of The Foremost Goldsmiths Of Mesoamerica

http://www.ancientpages.com/2017/12/02/mixtec-mysterious-advanced-culture-foremost-goldsmiths-mesoamerica/

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the Mixtec made that step fret emblem...it's famous, and was lost/stolen...don't recall if it was recovered...so, so, I dunno...my thought is that the step fret jugs are Mixtec, and miss labeled somehow Nasca...but then there are a lot of similarities in how the Mixtec use design and color on their pottery and figurines with Nasca...this thought gathered from my web browsings!...so suspect...and, and, thinking how the step frets got to look the way they look, I realized the steps are from it being problematic in basket weaving and fabric weaving to make an angled line...what the artists probably wanted to represent was a running curling wave motif...Upton hits another home run!...first Angels hit of the day...but you can't make a smooth curve, or even an angle smooth line, in basket/fabric weaving...so artists resort to 'steps' when making these lines...I, I thought the 'steps' have some special meaning!...like the emblem is a confluence of two glyphs...steps and the curl within a curl...pop fly drops on the infield...everyone standing around...'you got it?'...only Albert...Pujols on first with a hit!...(this related too to the Nabataean tombs...those checkerboard steps originated with emblems woven)...the potter with the Nasca jugs faithfully reproduced the steps, likely thinking as I do, that they have 'import'...lol...a tangle...potters painting these steps are doing the same thing, passing on the look of the woven step frets...Angels make out...Jays 3-1...to top of 5th...pop up troubles the Angels same way...Kinsler gloves it...sun in their eyes...one out...grounder 3-1...two out...there's a site that goes over the symbols on the crouching Mixtec warrior...some of the explanations make sense, some far fetched...but author points out the designs where I could barely make them out...another pop out ends the inning after a double...two runners stranded...to bottom of 5th...Pena has done well...one bad 0-2 pitch--that three run homer...Simmons lead off hit...Calhoun up...now, watch...first pitch pop up...a prediction...Calhoun is predictable!...oh, he took a strike!...usually first pitch swinging...1-1...here's link:
http://www.sumerianalien.com/C/MixtecRainGod/
wish I could find a scholars site going over the symbols...nubber cant be fielded...go figure...Calhoun on with a hit...'swinging bunt'...Maldonado up...base hit...run scores...Calhoun thrown out at third...no patience...this happens when hard hit balls get by him in the outfield...wants to do too much...review...out...Maldonado to third on wild pitch...sac will bring him home...K...hmmph...two out...Kinsler up...

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Mixtec writing originated as a logographic writing system during the Post-Classic period in Mesoamerican history.
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Mixtec writing is classified as logographic, meaning the characters and pictures used represent complete words and ideas instead of syllables or sounds.
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 Pictographic symbols can resemble the item they are intended to represent, and refer to one or more words. They are often found in person and place names. Ideographic symbols do not require knowledge of the Mixtec language to understand them, as they are found in other languages of the region and represent the idea which they are intended to portray.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixtec_writing

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base hit...Angels 3-3...Trout breaks his bat...a swinging broken bat bunt!...Upton up...two on...Ramerez on mound for Angels...Pena did good!...sheesh...home run...Jays 4-3...

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The analysis presented in this thesis was designed principally to explore how notions of ideology and identity were manifested in, and produced through, material culture at Late Postclassic Yucu Dzaa, and the potential implications such phenomena had for broader socio-political relations and developments.

http://www.academia.edu/544184/Ideology_Identity_and_Icons_A_Study_of_Mixtec_Polychrome_Pottery_from_Late_Postclassic_Yucu_Dzaa_Tututepec_Oaxaca_Mexico

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another home run...Jays 5-3...hmmph...scholars could take a lesson from their subjects in presentation!...Pujols makes out...Valbuena up....bottom of 6th?...somewhere in that article are pics, but I had to leave off...scrolling through the text was lagging the computer!...two out...Simmons up...grounder gets by off glove...base hit...Calhoun up...a gapper...a double!...runners second and third...Maldonado up...there was another culture I came across...fly out...to top of 7th...

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Cuicuilco was destroyed and abandoned following the eruption of the volcano Xitle, causing migrations and changes to the population and culminating in the consolidation of Teotihuacan as the ruler of the Central Highlands during the Early Classic period.[
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A 1956 study concluded that the uneven lava deposits, reaching a depth over 10 m in areas, were a major factor in the preservation of Cuicuilco. The site is also inside a modern urban area, and is partially covered by buildings associated with the National University of Mexico. Only partial archaeological investigation has been possible, and modern building techniques have damaged the prehistoric city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuicuilco

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it's another Pompeii!...but buried really deep...Alverez on mound...two out...

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Many Tlatilco figurines show deformities or other anomalies, including a "duality" mask and several two-headed female figures. This has led some researchers to wonder whether Tlatilco was perhaps a cluster site for conjoined twins.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlatilco

they make figures with tiny hands and big legs too!...add them to my tiny hands collection...

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Tlatilco figurines are wonderful small ceramic figures, often of women, found in Central Mexico. This is the region of the later and much better-known Aztec empire, but the people of Tlatilco flourished 2,000-3,000 years before the Aztec came to power in this Valley



https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/ap-art-history/global-prehistory-ap/paleolithic-mesolithic-neolithic/a/tlatilco-figurines

Jays made out...Angels up...bottom of 7th...pitcher named Oh on mound for Jays...he's trouble...keeps striking out Angels...K...all seven outs he has recorded in relief against the Angels have been strike outs!...pop up...two out...Trout up...0-1...0-2...'greatest Korean closer of all time'...1-2...slow roller gobbled up...hmmph...to top of 8th...McGuire on mound?...wild throw to first...and runner goes around to third...sac fly to left...'just like that, Toronto adds an unearned run'...hmmph...fly out...two gone...4-3 ground out...to bottom of 8th...Jays 6-3...

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Evidence from finds at Tlatilco, a large pre-Hispanic village in the Valley of Mexico, shows that even the earliest (roller-shaped) baked clay stamps (occasional stone, copper and bone ones have been found) were used by common folk as well as the better-off, to apply ink or paint to clothing, paper, or to the body. Roller-shaped stamps - that sometimes had two ingenious parallel lines running lengthwise to act as margin guides for printing onto sashes and belts!) - gave way to simpler, flatter models hundreds of years before the Aztecs came on the scene.

http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/artefacts/clay-stamps

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Pujols up...Albert safe on first base after errant throw...

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Cylinder seals have been found in Mesopotamia dating from before 3000 BC down to the downfall of Babylon in 539 BC. They have been found in such abundance that it has been assumed that nearly every person, and certainly every person of importance, carried his seal with him wherever he went. 
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In the New World, especially Mexico, Central America, and Peru, flat and roller stamps date back also to ancient times, though not as early as in the Old World. Similarities as well as differences exist between the uses of stamps in the two parts of the world. 



http://www.ancientamerica.org/library/media/HTML/ts86mek5/A%20%20Possible%20llnear%20script.htm?n=0

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play under review...Simmons safe on first...two out...Calhoun up...two on?...Walk...heck...bases loaded...but with two out!...pitching change...second one since Oh left off...Maldonado up...over the head of Hernandez...clears the bases...Angels 6-6...three rbi double...Young up...Maldonado picked off...sheesh...to top of 9th...K...two out...Young up again...K...Kinsler up...symbols look to be in blocks/squares...K...Trout up...'been quiet in this series'...ground out...to top of 10th...Robles sixth pitcher of the day...replacing Parker...here's stamp from Costa Rica...looks almost to be a step fret...has the 'steps'...

Image result for peru clay stamps pre columbian
https://www.google.com/search?q=peru+clay+stamps+pre+columbian&rlz=1T4TSNJ_enUS440US440&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXtOr5uO3bAhVDWqwKHbXoC2MQ_AUICigB&biw=1038&bih=378#imgrc=Y6upnv5_7z7adM:&spf=1529882659076

from google's images page...peru clay stamps pre Columbian...hmmph...looking for Inca stamps and cylinder seals...not much luck...oh no...Jays hit a home run...Jays 7-6...double...Jays make out...to bottom of 10th...

Image result for peru clay stamps pre columbian 
http://ancientpoint.com/inf/129296-chimu_pottery_stamps_seals_pre___columbian_ancient_artifacts_peru_moche_mayan_nr.html

lead off infield hit...Upton on...they're out there, I guess, Inca seals, stamps, and such...Pujols fly out...Fletcher at bat...1-1...foul out...Simmons up...0-1...seals are kind of concave, which reminds me of the cylinder pottery, which too have an illustration seen in rotation...pop up...'and that is how the ballgame ends'...on to Kansas City...

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DavidDavid



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