So, so, I was gathering quarters for the laundry from the five gallon bucket in the garage, and looked about the dishevelment for a book to take along, and sighted...The Mystery of the Oracles by Philip Vandendberg...having left off yesterday's post with mention of Pausanias and the Omphalos Stone at Delphi, at the Laundry Mat I opened the book to page 100, the chapter on Delphi...and since have been reading the book, and looking about the web...
I've read before about the Omphalos Stone...cultures all over the world have them...the Omphalos at Delphi is sometimes portrayed with two Eagles...
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In early historical times, people thought the world was a disc surrounded by the ocean, and that the omphalos, or navel, was the middle point of the disc. In order to find the middle point, Zeus had sent out two eagles.
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Reprinted in "Fanciers journal and Poultry Exchange (Philadelphia), 1874, vol. 1 page 117 and 118.
"The Egyptian spend much time on pigeons. As you go by rail to Cairo, and as you ascend the river, you are never out of site of a mud-built village. The only story that is raised above the ground floor is the Dovecote. This, therefore is the only object in the village, which attracts the eye of the passer-by. In the Delta the fashion appears to be to raise a
mud tower full of earthenware pots for the pigeons to breed in. These are inserted-of course, lying horizontally in the mud, which the tower is built.
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From the summit of the Prophylaea of the grand ptolemaic temple of Edfou, I counted about forty of these dovecotes. The number of domestic pigeons in Egypt must be of several times as great as that of the population.
Pigeons in Ancient Egypt
Condensed by Adel Salem
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I...I hadn't thought to find that...was just looking for how the ancient Egyptians used pigeons for surveying, or something like that...the omphalos stone in ancient Egypt is depicted with two pigeons, or birds, perched on either side...the omphalos in Delphi with two eagles, and omphalos stones often show a netting over them...which in a way resembles the openings in these dovecotes!...omphalos are much studied and thought upon, even in ancient times, and just what they are is something of a mystery...
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Hundreds of ancient columbaria have been found in Israel, a few dozens of them in and around the city of Jerusalem. Most of them were built in manmade caves. The others were built above the ground in the form of towers. These were found in the City of David, Jericho, Masada, Herodium and in other cities in Israel, dating back to the Hellenistic and early Roman periods.
http://www.wysinfo.com/Pigeons/History_of_pigeons_doves.htm
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Scenes of measurement in the fields have been found on tomb walls, such as the picture of a surveyor checking a boundary stone in Fig. 2, found in a Theban tomb.
http://www.sage.unsw.edu.au/currentstudents/ug/projects/salmon/salmon.htm
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In the ancient picture the Egyptian is leaning over a short column like stone with a round oval top, much like an omphalos.
Oh...found it...read it a long time ago in the Mysteries of the Great Pyramid book by Tompkins, and here it is quoted in the Sirius book--a re-visit!
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In Plate 12 the reader may see for himself the surviving omphalos stones of Delphi and of Delos86 - both of which are spread with 'nets' representing a latitudinal and longitudinal geodetic mesh.26 It is this mesh which is probably carried at all times by Oannes (see Plates 6, 7, 8 and 9) as a 'basket'.
For the 'warp and woof of the sacred basket of Oannes/Dagon - surviving as the lyknos basket of Greek Demeter (who succeeded the Philistine fish-tailed Dagon as agricultural deity, keeping Dagon's 'basket') - represent perfectly the warp and woof of latitude and longitude. The Dogon have traditions of the religious and mythological importance of 'warp and woof in weaving, and of sacred baskets 'which are not baskets', all of which may be found described in many places in Le Renard Pale.
In Plate 12 the reader may see the omphalos stone found by Reisner in the great temple of Amon at Thebes in Egypt. This stone was placed in the main room of the temple where the meridian and parallel actually cross.2' In Figure 23 is a reproduction of a figure from an Egyptian papyrus of omphalos stones
with two doves perched on top. These two doves are the standard glyph meaning 'to lay out parallels and meridians'.28 They are the 'two doves' who flew to Dodona from Thebes according to the account of Herodotus.2' Of course, the two doves are in fact carrier-pigeons. To keep in touch over such enormous distances, and to maintain prompt communication between oracle-centers which was essential to the successful operation of a coherent 'world-wide' religious network spread over thousand of miles, the only available means were carrier-pigeons.
In Plate 12 the reader may see the omphalos stone found by Reisner in the great temple of Amon at Thebes in Egypt. This stone was placed in the main room of the temple where the meridian and parallel actually cross.2' In Figure 23 is a reproduction of a figure from an Egyptian papyrus of omphalos stones
with two doves perched on top. These two doves are the standard glyph meaning 'to lay out parallels and meridians'.28 They are the 'two doves' who flew to Dodona from Thebes according to the account of Herodotus.2' Of course, the two doves are in fact carrier-pigeons. To keep in touch over such enormous distances, and to maintain prompt communication between oracle-centers which was essential to the successful operation of a coherent 'world-wide' religious network spread over thousand of miles, the only available means were carrier-pigeons.
The Oracle Centers
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/universo/siriusmystery/siriusmystery06.htm
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It was a good trick...the priests at Delphi were getting information from all over the world secretly with the pigeons, and when Kings and such came to Delphi for oracular advice, they could come up with answers based on their pre-knowledge...
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I am informed that carrier-pigeons could fly from Thebes to Dodona in about a day. To travel such a distance oneself by sea and land would take months. Daily communication between the Egyptian religious centre of Thebes and all its oracle 'colonies' would have been transacted by the very carrier-pigeons whom we see plainly depicted on omphalos stones by both Greek (see Plate 12) and Egyptian (see additionally Figure 24) representations and documented clearly by Herodotus.
Also, I should imagine such instantaneous 'news coverage' would surreptitiously find its way into the oracular pronouncements at the various centers and exercise a considerable political influence. For after all, there was hardly a king or potentate anywhere in the ancient world who would disregard an oracular order 'from the gods'. Probably the political forces were totally ignorant of the 'hot news line' ticking away secretly in the local oracle centre's temple complex.
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The last oracle to be made at Delphi was to Julian the Apostate, the self same Roman ruler that attempted to re-build the Temple at Jerusalem, but was thwarted by earthquake and flames erupting from the ground...
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The Oracle of Apollo at Delphi dates back to 1400 BC. Julian the Apostate (331/332– - 26 June 363), a Roman emperor, tried to revive classical Greek culture in the mid 4-th century AD. He is said to have consulted the Oracle of Delphi. The Pythia responded with the following oracle:
Tell to the king that the carven hall is fallen in decay;
Apollo has no chapel left, no prophesying bay,
No talking spring. The stream is dry that had so much to say.
Apollo has no chapel left, no prophesying bay,
No talking spring. The stream is dry that had so much to say.
And that site has this too...I didn't know Delphi is a word for Dolphin!
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...and in as much as at the first on the hazy sea
I sprang upon the swift ship in the form of a dolphin,
pray to me as Apollo Delphinius; also the altar itself
shall be called Delphinius and overlooking for ever.
Homer, To Apollo (probably a work of some other poet )
I sprang upon the swift ship in the form of a dolphin,
pray to me as Apollo Delphinius; also the altar itself
shall be called Delphinius and overlooking for ever.
Homer, To Apollo (probably a work of some other poet )
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Here is link to clip on youtube I found about Delphi...it is very good!
Delphi: The Bellybutton of the Ancient World
Next: ... the Island of Delos...
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