Wednesday, September 12, 2018

OTI:one pic, notes:9/12/18
























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Open To Interpretation

Notes:...hmmph...yesterday, I happened on that site that thought the checkerboard represents the Milky Way...checkerboard patterns are common in Andean/Mesoamerican artistries...from the South West in North America too...this post one hundred and two in a series...see previous...lamented that I hadn't noted that possibility my own self...Milky Way Checkerboard...and so did a search, and still searching...from this morning until now...still have some time before going to Angels game tonight...took a break to snack, feed the dog, and do one of my hurried cosmic shells...starfish today...that basket of shells I bought in Balboa for twenty dollars is a disappointment!...it looked full of shells, but under a few elaborate ones, and the starfish, were a bunch of just plain clam shells...many broken...none of the shells collectables...anyway...one of the searches brought up something from a Heraldry site I want to gather in....it fills out my notion of where things are is what things are...I've been trying to find the names for the various locations on the Egyptian stele/shields...these are shaped with rounded/pointed tops and squared off bottoms...not having much luck with that...a few terms from architecture...like architrave...but at the Heraldry site I found the names, except they are upside down...Heraldry shields are square at top and pointed/rounded at bottom!...hmmph...lemmesee if I can find that site again, show what I'm getting at...brb...

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1 - Dexter Chief
2 - Middle Chief
3 - Sinister Chief
4 - Dexter Base
5 - Middle Base
6 - Sinister Base
7 - Honour Point
8- Fess Point
9 - Nombril Point

http://www.internationalheraldry.com/

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oh, it's one of those sites that when I copy paste the image, it comes in on the far right, and when I try to more it to far left, it pops up to the top of the page...see page for pic...site is comprehensive...and shows the complexity of heraldry...all it goes over can be over laid on the ancient's artistries...the ancients worked from clip art books...doggone it, that's another of my notions that author I quoted yesterday had!...they called what I call a clip art book, a 'playbook'...brb...

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The fact that the symbol set was so stable over time and distance also suggested something else: there had to have been a playbook that was preserved by astronomer-priests either sharing the “Twisted Gourd” bloodline or associated with it through some form of initiation. And, if there was a playbook, it could be reconstructed from within the symbol set itself using an emic approach within the Cupisnique/Chavin to Moche cultural sequence and extending those findings to other places that possessed the Twisted Gourd through diachronic and etic methods.

https://thetinkuy.wordpress.com/

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that's, that's just annoying...author has my 'reverse engineering' analogy too, if  'emic' means the same...brb...

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adjective
  1. 1.
    relating to or denoting an approach to the study or description of a particular language or culture in terms of its internal elements and their functioning rather than in terms of any existing external scheme.
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what I'm on about with the enigmas is trying to find what the original captions were...from how the emblems are arranged, I can kind of scope out what they may have meant...if the sun is always at the top of Egyptian stele/shields, then if another emblem is there, it might be a stand in for the sun...where things are is what things are...the parts of an unknown machine, like an alien space craft, would be a mystery...but tinkering about, and seeing where each part is in relation to other parts, and then nailing down what one part is, then it can begin to follow what the other parts are, and what they do...thing to avoid, is to compare something alien with something familiar, to presuppose what looks like an airplane is an airplane...'if it quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's a duck' is not a reliable premise!...I've sort of nailed down where sun emblems are located in Egyptian artistries...and too, after going on about goddess Nut, where stars/night sky is located...this is kind of no brainer...everything like a dome or an archway or the top of an illustration/stele will be decorated with stars/planets/sun/moon...these are all over head!...oh...our heads are ovals/near egg shaped...our eyes a mid point...above our eyes is like a dome/arch...so, our facial sense is like the locations in a heraldry 'map'...I dunno what 'map' the ancients were using...that some things keep showing up here and there is like sorting out all the edge pieces when beginning a jigsaw puzzle...the colors are a complication, along with the shapes of the pieces!...and there's no box cover to go to for help...maybe that is what 'emic' is...working with just the pieces, rather than a speculative model of how they all go together...so, my checkerboard milky way searches turned up little...went to trying other searches....but, it's just not there...if it had been noted that checkerboards represent stars or the Milky Way, the google searches would find it easy...unless those terms together are shadow boxed!...lol...

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The petroglyphic evidence upon the vertical cliffs below the pueblo ruin struck me as strange, even in the context of the Anasazi. One encounters a well executed checkerboard formed in an oval shape facing northwest-- or more exactly, 300 degrees azimuth, the summer solstice sunset. The checkerboard pattern in Anasazi rock art is thought to symbolize the Milky Way, the pathway for the Warrior Twins. 5. However, in the context of Freemasonry the black and white checkerboard found on the floor of each lodge represents night and day, or death and everlasting life. 6. A checkerboard was also one of the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs used to indicate a scribe’s palette, therefore connoting the wisdom of Thoth.
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So what is going on here? We have a Freemasonry temple built in the early 20th century next to a pueblo constructed in the late 13th century. In the adjacent rock art we find Mayan and Egyptian symbology mixed with traditional Anasazi petroglyph designs. Why did the Masons chose this particular mesa to erect their open-air worship center? Did the crumbling foundations of the village remind them of their sacred office? Did they recognize the non-indigenous iconography of this rock art, which resonated with specific elements in their holy ceremonies? Was an elite cabal operating within the rural Arizona Masonic lodge privy to arcane lore which dictated that the site be established precisely where we find its ruins today?

Remember that the Hopi name for this site means “cottonwood,” whose root is used for the carving of kachina dolls. If one cuts crosswise into the limb of this tree, a perfect five-pointed star of Egyptian design is revealed. The Hopi word for cottonwood is söhövi. The Hopi word for star is sohu. Although though Although though the vowels are arbitrary, the Egyptian word for star (particularly those of Orion) is sahu.


http://www.theorionzone.com/mystery_mesa.htm

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hmmph...a Mystereon page...couldn't snag pic...and author is working from a 'box top'...I don't know where they got 'checkerboard...Milky Way...thought to symbolize'...well, try that search!...Anasazi Milky Way Checkerboard...

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This is a delightful piece of replication pottery which was inspired by the Tularosa style created by the Anasazi approximately 800 years ago.  The checkerboard designs on the side panels are representative of the Milky Way seen in the night sky of our galaxy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Anasazi-Canteen-Milky-Way-Replication/263915700834?hash=item3d729a0262:g:GJsAAOSwc39bjaQO

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ebay caption...and that's that for that search!...when I first did the checkerboard milky way search...well, let me try it again...when I first did it, google showed some images on the 'all' page from the site from yesterday...then some algorithm kicked in or something, and those pics gone...searches get messed with by algorithms like a spell checker messes with one's typing...oh, for my optical illusion collection there is something called the 'checkerboard' illusion, which is related to the bigger moon on horizon illusion....link...sometimes, sometimes when I do an 'all' or 'images' search, my site comes up...and then sometimes not...for instance, I'm going on about milky way checkerboard, and my searches would turn up this, what I just wrote...the search engines can do that!...anyway, the site from yesterday has a 'side bar' that goes on about checkerboards...

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Checkerboard: The Bicephalic Serpent as the Milky Way

https://thetinkuy.wordpress.com/the-bicephalic-serpent-as-the-milky-way/

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oh, adding 'pattern' to the search brings up that wordpress site...search engines are finicky!...but I still haven't found another scholar that goes on that to the Andeans/Mesoamericans the Milky Way was symbolized as a checkerboard...well, wait, maybe author's footnote has just that...scholars write things up like lawyers...every statement is captioned with a precedent by another scholar!...nope...can't find citation of another author making that reach: milky way checkerboard...author has a tag line, and it might have his name...searched that too, but no luck either...

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This work is under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-NoDerivatives 3.0 Unported license .  Suggested citation for text: Devereaux, M.K., 2018. Twisted Gourd, The Symbolic Language of the Precolumbian Rainmakers,  http://www.thetinkuy.wordpress.com.

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so, glue that to all the quotes from that wordpress site!...:)...anyway, maybe time for one more thing before off to the game!...Coricancha...

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Within the Milky Way, which the Inca called mayu or Celestial River, the Inca distinguished dark area or clouds, which they called yana phuyu. These were considered silhouettes or shadows of animals drinking from the river water. Amongst the animals visible to the Inca, a llama extended from Scorpius to Alpha Centauri and Beta Centauri, in which those two stars formed the llama's eyes, or llamacnawin. A baby llama, llama-cria, was inverted underneath. To the left of the llamas is a red-eyed fox, atoq, which lies between Sagittarius and the tail of Scorpius.

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Coricancha

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more on the Coricancha for sometime!...but reading about the Llamas brought to mind pic at another site cited yesterday!...

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Tropical Mollusk Strombus Presented to the Gods. Larco Museum, Lima

Tropical Mollusk Strombus Presented to the Gods. Larco Museum, Lima
 
 
note the two Llamas!
 
:)
 
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