#stradaeasel
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Notes: I don't know how the scholars do it...circumstances are such for myself that I can google search an enigma, follow the branches, bifurcations?, take breaks to mull things over, go back to the searches, and so on, and then, then while the baseball game is on, try to do a post that makes sense of an enigma...having only touched on it, I move on to another with the same routine...there's a wanting now to do the stradaeasel plein air once a day paintings for the September contest, which requires the same kind of attention...I can't do both, the enigmas, and the paintings...and the enigmas have a precedence...if I leave off the searches to roll out and do paintings, I 'lose' what I may have found in a search....and pursuing the enigmas is exhausting...I take my breaks, and nap...and that's hardly a break, in that the ancients' artistries still retain their spells, and, and I dream about them!...sometimes I wake up knowing I worked out a whole post in my dreams, but I forget, except for a snippit of things just before I wake up...so, if the scholars have a routine like mine, I don't know how they do what they do!...pre-web their effort was all done chasing about to museums, working in the field, reading one another's papers, writing up their own papers...it's daunting...I can pick up a National Geographic, read a new story about some new archaeological find in like five minutes...and the fellow who wrote up the story probably took a life time of effort to make it...it's very hard to find where 'completeness' is...what am I thinking of here?...moon rocks!...brb...
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During the six Apollo landing missions, 2,415 samples were collected weighing 839.87 pounds (380.96 kg).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rock
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just the .87 pounds is enough to employ a small army of scholars...and I don't know anything at all about moon rocks, but, but the web affords the opportunity to consider them...so, to continue with my enigma/moon rocks!...onward!...apologies to the scholarly minions!...back a couple posts I went on about 'patter'...gave an example from the writing of the ancient Greek geographer/tourist Pausanias' writing...how his style of writing is often imitated...it's very rich in allusions to things unknown for a reader, as nowadays we haven't the familiarity with things in ancient Greece...scholars work their familiarity up....yesterday I noted a youtube of a rock relief in India, and how the commentators in the comments were captioning it, with good familiarity of the stories the relief was illustrating...that's the charm of artistries in Asia, the stories from way back when are still current, the religions still practiced...this post one hundred and sixth in a series...see previous...the stories in the pre-Columbian Americas are pretty much forgotten, or so muddled by post-Columbian meddling that they are just as lost as being forgotten...Oh...game on...on the radio...:)...time for the post!...Angels and Rangers...pre-lims...Heaney on the mound for the Angels...now, here's a bit to set side by side with Pausanias...note the 'patter'...
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At Huarochiri, the llama is said to drink the waters of the Flood (in October) and hence to save the people. However, the people are also said to have been saved from the flood on a growing mountain. As the flood rose, the mountain rose. At the top of the mountain was Fox (a dark cloud "constellation" on the ecliptic). Urton discusses the alignment of the stellar Fox at Misminay and points out that foxes are supposed to be born only on December 25th, Christmas Day. The parallel of Fox with Uto-Aztecan Coyote, who saved the Papago from the Flood on a growing mountain is striking. Kelley knows of no Quechua association of Fox and Moon, but Moche iconography regularly associates Fox and Moon, and in northern Mexico, Coyote is sometimes identified as the Moon.
https://www.astronomyclub.xyz/history-astronomy/info-iwa.html
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I find that all really neat!...and haven't a clue!...well, I've worked up some of the lore for myself, so, now, sorta I know what is being going on about...Fletcher with a double to start off the ballgame...and, and Ohtani is up...batting second!...cool...left hander even on the mound for Rangers...2-1...(a parenthetical observation is that if the reader is unfamiliar with baseball play by play terms, the streaming account I insert is 'forgettable!')...K...backed out...bad habit...Trout up...hit by pitch...double steal...runners on second and third...anyway, yesterday was this:
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Punctuating the entire relief are a multitude of fantastic beasts, hybrid figures, and airborne deities. These extraordinary representations allow anyone to enjoy the relief even with little or no understanding of its complex mythology. These delightful scenes may have provided an “entry point” for viewers in the seventh century just as they do today, while more learned viewers would recognize deeper layers of meaning.
https://smarthistory.org/the-great-relief-at-mamallapuram/
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Smart History's take much better than the ones I linked yesterday!...there's a zoom in and out there that's really nice...Marte K for third out...Angels get a run...Angels 1-0...here's the pic from wiki's take...it shows the relief flat on...note the cleft!!!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_of_the_Ganges_(Mahabalipuram)
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and, so, this afternoon, reaching for the Andean rainbow serpent (related to the Naga rainbow serpents?), I happen on this:
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the top three courses of the pyramid, are human figures. On the viewer's right are animal figures, sometimes with some human traits. In the clearest of the drawings (Donnan 1978, Fig. 143), those of the bottom row have deer horns, those of the middle row have the "figure-8" markings characteristic of Moche jaguars, and those of the top row have long, fat tails that seem to have snake markings. These three kinds of animals immediately suggest the composite deer-snake-jaguar monster identified by Hocquenghem (1987, p. 213), with the Amaru associated with the world ages called Pacha-cutis and with the Moon (although the Amaru is sometimes identified with the two-headed Rainbow Snake).
https://www.astronomyclub.xyz/history-astronomy/info-iwa.html
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Amaru is the Andeans Rainbow Dragon/Serpent....Angels strand a runner on second...to bottom of 2nd...
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His two-headed serpent belt is clearly the rainbow snake (cf., Carlson 1982), although Hocquenghem associates it also with the Milky Way, which modern Quechua identify as a "Night Rainbow." The Milky Way was also conceptualized among the Quechua as a giant river. Such an interpretation here is reinforced by the presence in the scene of a giant fish deity.
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The change of the step-fret path into the war-club path may indicate the dominance of Thunder at the beginning of the rainy season. Both the serpent-bar path and the step-fret paths are associated with the Sun, perhaps with a particular emphasis on the step-fret at the equinoxes (the "Andean cross" of four joined step-frets pointing to the cardinal directions on the Akapana at Tiahuanaco will be discussed in §14.2.4). The serpent-bar path formed by depictions of the equivalent of solar rays could then represent the celestial equator.
same site as previoius
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some things there I've touched on before!...the two headed belt is on the staff god--see Gate of the Sun--a common emblem...in the top illustration author says it is a burial scene, two snake ropes lowering an old woman into the earth...I dunno...coming from the Indian relief, I want to pre-suppose that the two snake ropes are related to a river, like the Ganges in the Indian relief, and both are stylizations of the Milky Way, or maybe too the passage of the Sun...and, and a leaping reach!: Amaru the Rainbow Dragon is the Egyptian's Goddess Nut....they all over arch over the top of things...and stack up in stylization the passage of the things in the sky--Milky Way, Planets, Moon, Sun, the round of the seasons...Angels made out...to bottom of 3rd...wait...Angels are up...and Fletcher reaches second on a miss play by infield...ball got by into outfield...Ohtani up...0-1...oh, not good...0-2...why does he have so much trouble with lefties!...K...essh...Trout up...need to go back and read Smart History's take on the Nagas!...brb...Trout grounds out...Fletcher to third...ground out...to bottom of 3rd...lot of game to go...Rangers have a runner...comebacker to mound shoveled to Fletcher covering 1st...a sac bunt...oh, an aside!
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In an excellent article about the relief, the scholar Padma Kaimal emphasizes its “playful ambiguity” and remarks that “the absence of … such unequivocal signs creates space for the coexistence and interaction of multiple voices and therefore meanings.” [1] She draws a parallel between the visual art and the language of the Pallava court—both incorporate puns and multilayered meanings.
Smart History site
https://smarthistory.org/the-great-relief-at-mamallapuram/
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note the stylized polygon stonework beneath the Elephants!...a dogear...fly out to Trout...well, what I was looking for isn't at that page...but it's kind of a no brainer...Rangers make out...to top of 4th...oh, another aside...
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UNESCO designated the Group of Monuments at Mahabalipuram in 1984, twenty years before the 2004 Indian earthquake and tsunami revealed evidence of six of the legendary Seven Pagodas.
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The Sthalasayana Perumal Temple, located at Mahabalipuram, stands as the first and foremost of Mahabalipuram sculptures, one of the 108 Divya desam.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Mahabalipuram
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two outs...what I'm looking for is if the Indian relief is related to astronomy and the seasons/calendar...I've concluded that everything in the ancient artistries are such!...Angels make out...to bottom of 4th...page with the best pic...Rangers wap a home run...Angels 1-1...
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/indias-sistine-ceiling/
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good article!...and another home run by Beltre...Rangers 2-1...
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Sun, on the left and Moon on the right side are also depicted on top part of the panel. A kim-purusha, meaning dwarf with elongated ears and wearing a cap on his head and beating a drum is also seen in the panel.[3]
Another interpretation for the yogi doing penance on one leg is that it is a depiction of Bhagiratha doing severe penance to bring down Ganges to earth to usher prosperity and happiness to the people.
https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Descent_of_the_Ganges_(Mahabalipuram)
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did Rangers make out?...advertising on...well, play my hold card: ganges/milky way...
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In the Hindu collection of stories called Bhagavata Purana, all the visible stars and planets moving through space are likened to a dolphin that swims through the water, and the heavens are called śiśumãra cakra, the dolphin disc. The Milky Way forms the abdomen of the dolphin and is called Akasaganga which means "The Ganges River of the Sky".[13]
According to Hindu mythology, Vishnu lies meditating on Shesha with his consort Lakshmi, in the Kshira Sagara (Sea of Milk).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way_(mythology)#Hindu
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Angels up top of 5th...Breseno up...so, the Ganges with Rainbow Nagas harks to the Milky Way...the goddess Nut harks to the night sky/stars/Milky Way/passage of Sun...and Amaru, the Rainbow Dragon/Serpent harks to the Milky Way/passage of Sun, Moon, Planets, Stars/Seasons...Indians were preoccupied with the flood of the Ganges, the coming of the Monsoons...Andeans with the coming of El Nino/rain from the Andes...Egyptians with the Nile Food....forget if Nut was connected to Nile...
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A sacred symbol of Nut was the ladder used by Osiris to enter her heavenly skies. This ladder-symbol was called maqet and was placed in tombs to protect the deceased, and to invoke the aid of the deity of the dead. Nut and her brother, Geb, may be considered enigmas in the world of mythology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_(goddess)
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well, try same sort of search: Nile Milky Way Egyptian Mythology...Angels made out...to bottom of 4th...
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The ancient Egyptians viewed reality as multi-layered, and saw deities who merged while retaining divergent attributes and myths as complementary rather than contradictory.[
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Hathor, along with the goddess Nut, was associated with the Milky Way during the third millennium B.C. when, during the fall and spring equinoxes, the Milky Way aligned over and touched the earth where the sun rose and fell
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The Milky Way was seen as a waterway in the heavens, sailed upon by both the sun deity and the moon, leading the ancient Egyptians to describe it as The Nile in the Sky.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor
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base hit...hmmph...kind of like playing 'Hearts' with myself...following suits....Rangers with two out double...two runs score...Rangers 4-0...Rangers make out...to top of 6th...Ohtani up...1-0...2-0...2-1...starting pitcher for Rangers, lefty, still on mound..."blasted deep and you can kiss it good bye!!!"...first one against lefty!...16th on season...lol...
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Figure 14.11. The "Bridge of Cords" or "The Spider Path to Heaven": Here, ascending and descending a spider ladder path may be references to planetary motions on the ecliptic. Drawing by Sharon Hanna.
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However, the Spider Path is here coincident with a ladder that probably represents a particular asterism. If the pot described by Bourget does encompass the whole sky, there should be two ladder aster-isms: one at Orion's Belt and the other near Scorpio at the other end of the Milky Way.
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The two-headed fox-snake as the litter-of-the-Sun is sometimes marked with a step-fret (Figure 14.13). The body of the two-headed fox-snake appears as a base on which seven deities and a dog are standing. The body is marked by a 52-unit step fret above, and the snake's belly is marked by 85 dots. An additional 13 dots appear on each leg, totaling 111. A similar figure without the step-fret serves as the image of the rainbow (Figure 14.14).
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Therefore, if the Moon is precisely at the center of a rainbow, this provides a remarkably good determination of the time of full Moon. A rainbow in the east arches 40°-42° from the anti-Sun direction (depending on wavelength), whereas Venus at greatest elongation is seen ~45°-47° from the Sun (see §2.4.3). Therefore, a rainbow seen near sunset provides a basis for a mythological association between the two phenomena. The Moche rainbow depictions seem to be of two varieties, possibly distinguishing rainbows in the east from those in the west. They appear with deities taking coca.
same Bedford site
https://www.astronomyclub.xyz/history-astronomy/info-iwa.html
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can't shrink down pic...see at site...Angels make out...to bottom of 6th...Rangers 4-2...
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same site
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I've gone on about the two foxes...another author had it that it represented the two positions of Venus...trying side by side between the Andeans astronomy with "the Milky Way aligned over and touched the earth where the sun rose and fell"...that bit about Nut and Hathor...Rangers make out...to top of 7th..."the two headed fox carried in the litter of the sun"...caption to that last pic...the two headed serpent morphed into a two headed fox?...I dunno...I'm like six layers of interpretation from the original artist's thought!...I don't know if the Bedford author is familiar with the 'foxes as Venus' author...that, I have back in the posts...but let me see if I can re-find it on web...menacing disk two foxes peru...two out infield hit for Hermisio...seventh ever major league hit...Fletcher lines his third hit...oh...Ohtani up with two on!...a meeting at the mound...ground out on close play 4-3...sigh...that might have been a missed pivot...to bottom of 6th...
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Fig. 1 Fox investigating excavations of his temple at the site of Buena Vista; he had not been seen in three previous seasons and showed up the day we found the Temple of the Fox and left, coincidentally, the day we finished covering it back up (image courtesy of Neil A. Duncan). Note crescent‐shaped eye.
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The fox representations at Buena Vista are the earliest three‐dimensional art in the Americas (Benfer et al. 2010). These 4,000‐year‐ago acts marked a point where stories about the fox first became expressed visually in sculptures, murals, paintings, and architecture.
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Another view from the entryway to the Temple of the Fox looks to the east over a rock modified into the form of a human head over which the December solstice sun rises.
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The foxes' heads are averted from the disk but they have crescent, lunar‐fox (Fig. 1) eyes, which look to the June solstice sunset. The foxes are likely a male and a female, since the male on the left has a much larger head than the female on the right, an identification that corresponds to the general Andean pattern. Pairs of similar foxes are known from Moche depictions (Bruhns 1976, Franco et al. 2003). The Moche drawing in Fig. 9 (Franco et al. 2003) shows the dark mark on the tail of the larger figure on the left. Fig. 10 presents the sculpture of the Menacing Disk at Buena Vista with a dark mark on the tail of the larger fox on the left.
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http://journalofcosmology.com/AncientAstronomy120.html
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from that I reached over to the Lions of Yesterday and Tomorrow in Egyptian Mythology!...a before now post...Angels up...Simmons batting...lost track...runners on?...Ward up...1-1...hit home run yesterday...grounder right to the bag at first...third out...to bottom of 8th...lead off single...
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Phnom Bakheng, Cambodia - A series of towers, with the center tower representing the axis of the world and the 108 smaller ones representing the 4 lunar phases.
Buena Vista, Peru - also called the "Temple of the Fox", the observatory is located atop a small pyramid, and is aligned to mark the summer and winter solstices.
Here is a list of Real World archaeoastronomical sites that can be used in your campaign whether it be set in the real world itself or whether you want to get ideas when the stars are right.
http://arcana.wikidot.com/archaeoastronomical-sites
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prompt site for gamers...Rangers make out...to top of 9th...Angels down 2...I went on about litters, and that Moche litter...hadn't noted the two poles have foxes on their ends...the Sapa Inca being carried about in the step fret throne/litter represented the Sun...Sun Kings here, there, everywhere...K...one out...well, I have to shapeshift and do now my stradaeasel painting!...Angels not likely to pull this one out...1-1...1-2...K...Arcia pinch hitting...0-1...come back to the Rainbow Dragons tomorrowmorrow...fly out...Rangers 4-2...
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