Sunday, July 16, 2017

OTI:one poem and notes:7/16/17

Open To Interpretation
Near Sense
Near to you I am near to making sense,
From so far so close, close soft, so eyes close.
You make the Weather doubt Her own sure tense
When with our hats different seasons pose.

What matter our outward show attires,
Or the backgrounds exchanging behind us?
All artists are the purist of liars
And can make an innocent, Cassius.

I have my smile your smile reasons,
I am your logical illogical.
They with their holiday measured seasons
Think us so un-chronological.

Your near rhyme, my near sense, our skies too blue;
Ambiguous, others note, snow in June.


Notes:...well, a sudden I have this urge to study medieval  carriages!...elegant precursors to automobiles...with that, and curious about Shakespeare's women friends, (see previous posts), I looked about on amazon prime for a movie or series I'd seen about Queen Elizabeth, and instead happened on seriesmovieTheWhiteQueen2014...and it's about another Queen Elizabeth, and the War of the Roses, which occurred over like a hundred year span before Shakespeare, his Queen Elizabeth being kind of the final episode...I watched the first three episodes, which are mostly told from the women's perspective...there's one remarkable scene...scenes...of three different noble women all on their knees in their respective chapels praying for their husbands, sons, brothers, whatever, to be King...apparently God will choose sides...or the old gods, as there is some spell casting along with prayers...I lost patience, and opened up wiki's take on the War of the Roses...Yorks chose a white rose, Lancasters chose a red rose, though they had other heraldry as well...and smiled to see that the Lancasters of the red rose had for emblem a red dragon too...let me guess...brb...


According to Shakespeare's play Henry VI, Part 3, following Hall's Chronicle and Holinshed's Chronicles, John Clifford, after the Battle of Wakefield, slew in cold blood the young Edmund, Earl of Rutland, son of Richard, 3rd Duke of York, cutting off his head, crowning it with a paper crown, and sending it to Henry VI's Queen, Margaret of Anjou, although later authorities state that Rutland was slain during the battle.,_9th_Baron_Clifford


Oh, I'm trying to find if the Indie Ship Red Dragon got its name from the Red Rose/Red Dragon faction of the War of Roses...and 'am stumbling through much...John Clifford must be the ancestor of George Clifford, husband of Lady Margaret, and father of Lady Anne, these two being I think links to Shakespeare, somehow...well, I discern John Clifford sides with Lancaster, the white rose(wrong, red!)...I think...brb...


John Clifford, 9th Baron Clifford, (8 April 1435 – 28 March 1461), was a Lancastrian military leader during the Wars of the Roses. He was one of the strongest supporters of Queen Margaret of Anjou, consort of King Henry VI. Clifford is notorious for the slaying of Edmund, Earl of Rutland, younger brother of the future King Edward IV, following the Battle of Wakefield in 1460.


Yes...George Clifford is descended from John Clifford, a red rose Lancastrian...brb...


Henry won the throne when his forces defeated King Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth Field, the culmination of the Wars of the Roses. Henry was the last king of England to win his throne on the field of battle. He cemented his claim by marrying Elizabeth of York, daughter of Edward IV and niece of Richard III


This is Henry the VII, ancestor to Shakespeare's Queen Elizabeth, the name Elizabeth, I imagine, from Elizabeth of York, daughter of Queen Elizabeth wife of Edward IV, the main heroine in the series The White Queen...there is a portrait of Henry VII at that wiki one hand he is holding a red rose, and around his neck is the order of the Golden Fleece!...a fine curio!...brb...

the House of Lancaster (associated with a red rose), and the House of York (whose symbol was a white rose).

Hard to keep that straight...or this...

On his marriage, Henry VII adopted the Tudor rose badge conjoining the White Rose of York and the Red Rose of Lancaster. The Tudor rose is occasionally seen divided in quarters (heraldically as "quartered") and vertically (in heraldic terms per pale) red and white.[2] More often, the Tudor rose is depicted as a double rose,[3] white on red and is always described, heraldically, as "proper".

The Tudor Rose must be what he has in his hand in the portrait...but what of the 'red dragon'?...

Henry Tudor's forces at Bosworth fought under the banner of a red dragon

Henry Tudor is Henry VII...brb...


The Welsh Dragon (Welsh: Y Ddraig Goch, meaning the red dragon, pronounced [ə ˈðraiɡ ˈɡoːχ]) appears on the national flag of Wales. The oldest recorded use of the dragon to symbolise Wales is in the Historia Brittonum, written around AD 829, but it is popularly supposed to have been the battle standard of King Arthur and other ancient Celtic leaders.




Upon the accession of the Tudor monarchs, who were themselves of Welsh descent, a Welsh Dragon was used as a supporter on the Royal Arms. This was dropped by their successors, the Scottish House of Stuart, who replaced the Tudors' dragon supporter with the Scottish unicorn.


hmmph...getting ready for Game of Thrones...




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